4HF1 vs. 4BE1

[ferolimic]

gandang araw mga bossing. need some help on deciding which engine is better for hauling LPG cylinders. mga 3 to 4 tons ang total capacity . 4HF1 ba o 4BE1? ito kasi ang sinabi ng ibang napagtanungan ko. I am not much of a technical guy pagdating dito so ask sana ko help from the group. TIA

[boybi]

The 4HF series of engines are the newer ones. I don't know if parts for this engine is abundant in the local market already. And even if they're already available, they might be more expensive than parts for the 4BE1.

[C24]

We have trucks with both engines. Better to choose 4HF1, sobrang luma na mga 4BE1. mahirap makahanap ng sariwa pa. the youngest are at least 15 yrs old already and mahirap pumasa sa smoke emission tests. ang lamang lang ng 4BE1 ay mas marami at mas mura ng konti ang parts. mas matipid ng konti sa diesel ang 4HF1.

[lytspid]

sir, if i were to choose, id pick the 4hf1, the displacement of 4hf1 is 4.3L..overhead cam ..kaya mas powerful..i have a 4hf1 and i suggest yuo get the inline injection or direct injection..not the rotary type injection..medyo mhina ang rotary...fbe1 medyo lower ang displacement lower din ang price lower din power hehehe... sa parts both madami na supply ngyon

[bilog]

Hmmm... dati meron din kaming 4be1. but after 3 years of service i was forced to sell it because its cranshaft broke. I wanted to buy sana a surplus part for it but my mechanic told me not to go with my plan. Apparently yun daw ang sirain sa 4be1. i do not know if this is really true but i trust him. By the way i bought my truck as japan surplus. In terms of power naman kayang kaya nya ang 3-4 tons na lpg. I am also into LPG dealership kaya i know this first hand. I do not have much to say about the 4hf1 dahil di ako kumuha ng ganitong makina. 4be1 is relatively new in the philippines so the price for its parts is also relatively priced higher. Yun ang sabi ng kaibigan kong nasgbebentga ng truck. If you are on a budget get the 4be1. tyempuhan lang naman ang pagbili ng surplus trucks. whatever you choose i wish you luck.

[ferolimic]

daming salamat mga bossing we'll see kung kakayanin ng budget yung 4HF1. san ba most recommended place to buy trucks? sa subic ba talaga puntahan? i hear that there are some issues in the registration. binabyahe pa raw ung truck para i-rehistro kada taon. di ba applicable ang change venue for subic sold vehicles? TIA

[alwayz_yummy]

kung renew lang, 1 time change venue lang... 4hf1 vote ko, matakaw lang sa diesel, pero sulit naman.. sa bulacan/cabanatuan area, most of them are subic direct importer branches...

[snowbound]

the newer, the better....

[MAXBUWAYA]

4HF1
4434cc
130/135HP

4BE1
3636cc
110/120HP


Paubos na ang Eagle.


Traditional Mechanic would still Prefer the 4BE1. Why Because kabisado nila iyon. And most cant do well with the changing times. hehehehe

[MAXBUWAYA]

gandang araw mga bossing. need some help on deciding which engine is better for hauling LPG cylinders. mga 3 to 4 tons ang total capacity . 4HF1 ba o 4BE1? ito kasi ang sinabi ng ibang napagtanungan ko. I am not much of a technical guy pagdating dito so ask sana ko help from the group. TIA

Ideally this Engines were designed to carry only a 2 ton load

[overheat]

4 M Mganda Pareho Ung Makina,4hf1 ka na lang ,Much Powerfl Ang 4hf1 Thn 4be1 Sinsitive Nga Lang Na Mkina Ang Mga Yan Nasa U Nman Na Mag Alaga....kung Gusto M Request K '4bd1' Subok Ko Nyn Karamihan Na Mkina Nmin Dto Sa Baguio.heavy Duty Sir.

[yellowjip]

Sir ferolimic if i were you i would go with the 4HF1. Its a very powerful engine here in batangas many jeeps have 4HF1 and the run very well.Even though it has a bigger displacement it doesnt mean that its a diesel guzzler.Some drivers say the 4BE1 guzzles more diesel than a 4HF1.And plus its a newer engine.The 4HF1 has a single overhead camshaft.

[TIHAMA]

Mga sir help naman po, Magkano po ba ngayon ang 4HF1 at 4BE1 engine with tranny? kailangan lang po? san mo magandang dealer kumuha? Manila area? Maraming salamat po

[Wh1stl3r]

Mausok pa yung 4BE1. Lagi kang paparahin for smoke belching. Nakaka 9-10km/L yung truck ko on 4HF1 pag long distance. Not bad for a 14 footer.

[noobskie]

Mas malakas yung torque ng 4HF1 which makes hauling 3 to 4 tons of cargo easier. Mas matakaw nga lang sa diesel kasi mas malaki yung displacement pero mas bago nga talaga siya, luma na masyado yung 4BE1 Isuzu.

[rhandy]

to all newbies sa makina:

Ang 4hf ay mas ok dahil newer model ito at bigger engine,4beagle ay ok din naman pero sirain ang transmi at ito naman usually ang weakness ng mga isuzu engines unlike sa mitsu matibay ang transmi..Kapag nasira ang transmi ng Eagle papalitan mo ng mitsu 4d30 na transmi then ok kana nyan.. Kung sakali assemble lang ang gagawin nyo na sasakyan piliin nyo ang differential na ang gear ratio ay 7/37 maganda ito kapag ang byahe ay karamihan ay flat surface dahil high speed ito pero kung akyat baba naman ang byahe at gusto mo mabilis parin then kunin mo ang 7/39...

good engines ng Isuzu ay 4bc2,4be1, 4hf,4he1,4hh1 & d not so good ay c240,4ba1 & 4bc1 at ang sa mitsu na makina na pangit ay 4d30.

[TIHAMA]

Sir Rhandy,

New bie din po. tanong ko lang po kung yung sinabi nyong 7/39 na ratio para sa 4hf1 ay ok para sa Passenger xlt? akyatin at pababa po ang biyahe.

Single tire lang po ang xlt ko. pano po ba malalaman kung 7/39 ang ratio pag namile po ako ng rear axle? may model din po ba to?

salamat po.

[Ry_Tower]

If you are going to buy 4be1, better to get the 4d32/35 of mitsu na lang. sirain nga yang 4be1 ng isuzu. Malaki kasi pistons but maliit engine block, overheating ang major problem and yng crankshaft nga.

we have experienced 2 overhauls na sa 4be1. ngayon di na siya pinupuwersa, city driving na lang na truck.

[locoroco777]

how bout yung 4jg2? ok ba yun?

[Ry_Tower]

how bout yung 4jg2? ok ba yun?

Sir TSCP bossing may thread na rin na nadiscuss yan, very good review and comments yang 4jg2 ng Isuzu. Better reliability ng 4xj1. Matipid but maingay lang 'coz direct injected eh (yun lang ata negative niya).