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    #1
    Hello Everyone,

    So my company offered a Car Plan to some employees and luckily I was included.

    They would sponsor up to 500k and the remaining amount would be handled by me.

    I'll be selling my 2014 Focus M/T to add to the amount and also to change to A/T due to traffic. I still cannot decide whether to get a brand new car or second hand(mint) car.

    I won't be upgrading to an SUV/MPV since I still prefer driving a sedan and also don't need the space they provide.

    Please help me pick which car to buy. Here are my Top picks for the cars, I prefer it to be below 1M.
    1. 11th gen Altis 2.0V (700-800k)
    2. Mazda 3 Skyactiv 2.0V (600-700k)
    3. 9th gen Civic 2.0 (500-600k)
    4. 10th gen Civic 1.8 (800-900k)
    5. Focus Ecoboost (600-700k)
    6. Honda City(Brand New)
    7. Mazda 2(Brand New)

    My preference would be
    1. Easy to Drive Daily especially on tight spaces
    2. Fuel Consumption
    3. Space for 4-5
    4. Parts and Maintenance

    TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Hello Everyone,

    So my company offered a Car Plan to some employees and luckily I was included.

    They would sponsor up to 500k and the remaining amount would be handled by me.

    I'll be selling my 2014 Focus M/T to add to the amount and also to change to A/T due to traffic. I still cannot decide whether to get a brand new car or second hand(mint) car.

    I won't be upgrading to an SUV/MPV since I still prefer driving a sedan and also don't need the space they provide.

    Please help me pick which car to buy. Here are my Top picks for the cars, I prefer it to be below 1M.
    1. 11th gen Altis 2.0V (700-800k)
    2. Mazda 3 Skyactiv 2.0V (600-700k)
    3. 9th gen Civic 2.0 (500-600k)
    4. 10th gen Civic 1.8 (800-900k)
    5. Focus Ecoboost (600-700k)
    6. Honda City(Brand New)
    7. Mazda 2(Brand New)

    My preference would be
    1. Easy to Drive Daily especially on tight spaces
    2. Fuel Consumption
    3. Space for 4-5
    4. Parts and Maintenance

    TIA
    for me sir, go for the brand new city or mazda 2. halos pasok sa preference mo, medyo alangan nga lang sa no.3

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    #3
    You can buy a used Forester 2014 for around 800k. Among the choices above, a used Civic 10th gen or Mazda3 2.0L SkyActiv would s good buy for 700-800k.


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    Altis, the 3, and civic would be the best choice.

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    Mazda 3 2.0R definitely.

    Take advantage of Mazda's low resale value. The Mazda 3 2.0R is fully loaded and is a much better car than a brand new City or Mazda 2. A 3 year old Mazda 3 shouldn't be a headache to maintain either. Just regular maintenance.

    You save so much and get much better value for money getting a fairly new secondhand car. If I had an option to go secondhand for my car plans, I'd do so in a heartbeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Hello Everyone,

    So my company offered a Car Plan to some employees and luckily I was included.

    They would sponsor up to 500k and the remaining amount would be handled by me.

    I'll be selling my 2014 Focus M/T to add to the amount and also to change to A/T due to traffic. I still cannot decide whether to get a brand new car or second hand(mint) car.

    I won't be upgrading to an SUV/MPV since I still prefer driving a sedan and also don't need the space they provide.

    Please help me pick which car to buy. Here are my Top picks for the cars, I prefer it to be below 1M.
    1. 11th gen Altis 2.0V (700-800k)
    2. Mazda 3 Skyactiv 2.0V (600-700k)
    3. 9th gen Civic 2.0 (500-600k)
    4. 10th gen Civic 1.8 (800-900k)
    5. Focus Ecoboost (600-700k)
    6. Honda City(Brand New)
    7. Mazda 2(Brand New)

    My preference would be
    1. Easy to Drive Daily especially on tight spaces
    2. Fuel Consumption
    3. Space for 4-5
    4. Parts and Maintenance

    TIA
    From your priorities it would seem that the Honda City ticks all the boxes. Decent cabin and cargo space while still maintaining subcompact dimensions, decent fuel consumption with good perfomance, a 10tkms service interval and lots of parts. Added bonus that you can get it brand new with all the bells and whistles. I know many accomplished doctors and business executives who use this as their daily driver. Low key yet refined enough for their tastes perhaps?

    I would also suggest the Altis, should you want something more upscale. But get the 1.6 variant for fuel efficiency. Reason to buy? Its a Toyota, period. And also that jut703 swears by its performance despite the low displacement.

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    After reading the replies, I may just get a used car. So ill be narrowing down to the following.

    1. Altis 2014(2.0) or 2017 1.6
    Which is better of the 2?
    2. Mazda 3 2014 2.0
    Is the maintenance not that costly especially that the battery is the the regular one from motollite
    3. Civic FB 2.0 or FC 1.8
    Which is more value for money between the two?
    4. Subaru Forester XT or 2.0
    Is the parts and maintenance not much of problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    After reading the replies, I may just get a used car. So ill be narrowing down to the following.

    1. Altis 2014(2.0) or 2017 1.6
    Which is better of the 2?
    2. Mazda 3 2014 2.0
    Is the maintenance not that costly especially that the battery is the the regular one from motollite
    3. Civic FB 2.0 or FC 1.8
    Which is more value for money between the two?
    4. Subaru Forester XT or 2.0
    Is the parts and maintenance not much of problem?
    2017 1.6 Corolla
    Civic FC

    Just going for the newer choices.

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    sabi ng may ari ng talyer sa banawe na pinapagawan ko, mabili raw ang toyota (altis), dahil maraming piyesa at madali raw kumpunihin.

    sales talk?
    or shop talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sabi ng may ari ng talyer sa banawe na pinapagawan ko, mabili raw ang toyota (altis), dahil maraming piyesa at madali raw kumpunihin.

    sales talk?
    or shop talk?
    Lagi naman yan ang naririnig ko. Sa opisina halos lahat naka-Toyota. From Fortuners down to Wigos. Official cars are Hiluxes, Revos, Corollas and Innovas. So boring. Wala pa yata kami 5 na naka-Kia, Honda, Nissan at Suzuki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    After reading the replies, I may just get a used car. So ill be narrowing down to the following.

    1. Altis 2014(2.0) or 2017 1.6
    Which is better of the 2?
    2. Mazda 3 2014 2.0
    Is the maintenance not that costly especially that the battery is the the regular one from motollite
    3. Civic FB 2.0 or FC 1.8
    Which is more value for money between the two?
    4. Subaru Forester XT or 2.0
    Is the parts and maintenance not much of problem?
    If going for the Altis, get the 1.6L model as the 2.0L model has not much more to offer.

    As there are a lot of SkyActiv Mazdas already on the streets, maintenance does not seem to be a big issue.

    The Civic FC is a better car overall than the Civic FB. The FB was trying hard to be an Altis.

    The Forester SJ (2013-2018) comes in either a 2.0L NA or 2.0L turbo engine (XT). Get the XT if possible as it is one very capable CUV. Maintenance cost is acceptable like any other CUV. Smaller parts can be sourced outside casa unless you’re looking for an engine or tranny or any other major part.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Lagi naman yan ang naririnig ko. Sa opisina halos lahat naka-Toyota. From Fortuners down to Wigos. Official cars are Hiluxes, Revos, Corollas and Innovas. So boring. Wala pa yata kami 5 na naka-Kia, Honda, Nissan at Suzuki.

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    i used to nissan.
    and i confess, toyota parts are easier to source. many are cheaper than the other marques', too.

    a car writer said, "toyota builds reliable but boring cars. if you want exciting cars, go to the showroom across the street".

    so i suppose the question to TS is, "do you want a boringly reliable car, or do you want a ***ier, more exciting car?"

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    Well in our office's case, all the cars are casa-serviced anyway so the much vaunted Toyota parts availability is moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    After reading the replies, I may just get a used car. So ill be narrowing down to the following.

    1. Altis 2014(2.0) or 2017 1.6
    Which is better of the 2?
    2. Mazda 3 2014 2.0
    Is the maintenance not that costly especially that the battery is the the regular one from motollite
    3. Civic FB 2.0 or FC 1.8
    Which is more value for money between the two?
    4. Subaru Forester XT or 2.0
    Is the parts and maintenance not much of problem?
    Will you be driving mostly in the city? How heavy is your right foot? How big of a priority is fuel efficiency? Do you have a target number? Say 7km/L? 8? 10?

    Given your input and updated choices, I will be choosing between the Altis 1.6 and the FC Civic 1.8. Both are good looking, IMHO. Fuel consumption is not too far apart. Depends whether you want some extra gas mileage or some extra power.

    I have no doubt the Mazda 3 is a wonderful car. But upon reading Carguide's long term test reviews, I am more inclined to believe that it is an excellent weekend car, but not necessarily the best "appliance" car.

    With the Subaru, I suppose it would depend on how far you live from the nearest Subaru dealership and/or parts shop, both of which are rather scarce. However, you shouldn't feel the hassle as much if you live near them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sabi ng may ari ng talyer sa banawe na pinapagawan ko, mabili raw ang toyota (altis), dahil maraming piyesa at madali raw kumpunihin.

    sales talk?
    or shop talk?
    Experience talk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Experience talk!
    kayo rin po?

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    *soul987 - if you want out right quickness and speed, the Forester XT is the quickest and fastest ride among your choices. It’s a tamed version of the WRX in CUV form. Fuel consumption within city routes though is just around 6-7 km/L. It drives like a big compact sedan but with the ground clearance of a PPV and extra cargo space for family road trips.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Experience talk!
    21 year old Toyota, kahit converted, kahit durog ang ilang aircon louvers, kahit napaltan na halos buong front suspension at brake system, walang kalawang sa body at pang ilalim, ang makina maaasahang tatakbo araw araw, at ang radiator hanggang ngayon hindi pa napapaltan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Will you be driving mostly in the city? How heavy is your right foot? How big of a priority is fuel efficiency? Do you have a target number? Say 7km/L? 8? 10?

    Given your input and updated choices, I will be choosing between the Altis 1.6 and the FC Civic 1.8. Both are good looking, IMHO. Fuel consumption is not too far apart. Depends whether you want some extra gas mileage or some extra power.

    I have no doubt the Mazda 3 is a wonderful car. But upon reading Carguide's long term test reviews, I am more inclined to believe that it is an excellent weekend car, but not necessarily the best "appliance" car.

    With the Subaru, I suppose it would depend on how far you live from the nearest Subaru dealership and/or parts shop, both of which are rather scarce. However, you shouldn't feel the hassle as much if you live near them.

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    I'm mostly using the car for city driving(home to office and vice versa) and weekend trip to my parents house (around 100km). I'll be using it daily since we have no coding in our area (Cebu). Will be planning to keep the car for more than 5 years so parts availability and maintenance cost would really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    *soul987 - if you want out right quickness and speed, the Forester XT is the quickest and fastest ride among your choices. It’s a tamed version of the WRX in CUV form. Fuel consumption within city routes though is just around 6-7 km/L. It drives like a big compact sedan but with the ground clearance of a PPV and extra cargo space for family road trips.


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    I actually quite like the forester but my main concern is the Maintenance and Parts cost especially since I'm from Cebu and Parts may be scarce and more expensive as compared to the Altis/Civic

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