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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    yes bro. hopefully filipinos will learn more about cars. I mean aside from reliability. two things need to be considered more of: cost of ownership( specific maintenance costs and long term fuel consumption hindi yun 12kml na sinasabi lng) and safety especially stability control.

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    Among these vehicles, I think only the 1.3 Vios and the Accent CRDi have any hope of doing 12km/L in actual MM rush hour traffic. Typical 1.5 gas engines will only do 8-9.

    In terms of safety... Perhaps I may represent the old school way of thinking already by today's standards. My basic requirements are actually just functioning seatbelts, well maintained brakes and good and thick tires. ABS is great to have though not really required. Even less so for airbags. A well-engineered crash structure is most important though. Still can't believe how the Explorer spectacularly failed the crash testing in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Among these vehicles, I think only the 1.3 Vios and the Accent CRDi have any hope of doing 12km/L in actual MM rush hour traffic. Typical 1.5 gas engines will only do 8-9.

    In terms of safety... Perhaps I may represent the old school way of thinking already by today's standards. My basic requirements are actually just functioning seatbelts, well maintained brakes and good and thick tires. ABS is great to have though not really required. Even less so for airbags. A well-engineered crash structure is most important though. Still can't believe how the Explorer spectacularly failed the crash testing in the US.

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    old school yes...

    toyota is offering these safety features because not all drivers can perfectly brake and steer a car in emergency situations. airbags are not needed? all manufacturers are putting more and more of these for a reason.

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    The City offers the best package by having decent size, good engine performance, and acceptable fuel efficiency.

    The Vios 1.3E is just too pricey for what it offers but it does carry the T brand name. Some even say the 1.5L model is more fuel efficient than the 1.3L model.

    The Fiesta and Mazda both have cramped interiors but these two offer good driving dynamics and performance. If opting for the Fiesta, the hatchback Ecoboost is something to consider if you like a responsive daily driver.

    The Accent CRDi offers frugality thru its turbo Diesel engine. The engine has good performance numbers but the chassis is quite heavy for a small car. Sarsi owns an Accent CRDi and the listed gross vehicle weight is 1650 kg, more like the older midsize cars already. This also means its LTO registration cost is similar to an Accord or Camry or the bigger TOTL compacts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    The City offers the best package by having decent size, good engine performance, and acceptable fuel efficiency.

    The Vios 1.3E is just too pricey for what it offers but it does carry the T brand name. Some even say the 1.5L model is more fuel efficient than the 1.3L model.

    The Fiesta and Mazda both have cramped interiors but these two offer good driving dynamics and performance. If opting for the Fiesta, the hatchback Ecoboost is something to consider if you like a responsive daily driver.

    The Accent CRDi offers frugality thru its turbo Diesel engine. The engine has good performance numbers but the chassis is quite heavy for a small car. Sarsi owns an Accent CRDi and the listed gross vehicle weight is 1650 kg, more like the older midsize cars already. This also means its LTO registration cost is similar to an Accord or Camry or the bigger TOTL compacts.


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    bro gross weight already includes the max payload. take out the 550 and thats the curb weight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Ranking:

    1 Toyota Vios E 1.3L CVT 878,000 (Stability control)
    2 Hyundai Accent 1.6L Diesel DCT - 930,000 Facelift is coming! (Stability Control)
    3 Ford Fiesta Sports+ 1.0 EB 6Spd, 905,000 (Stability Control) Fully loaded
    4 Mazda 2 1.5 V+ 6AT 938,000 (Yojin) - Maintenance is free! (Stability Control) Rear View Camera!
    5 Honda City E 1.5L CVT 868,000
    6 Suzui Ciaz 1.4 GL AT - 845,000

    Completely Avoid:

    Chevrolet Sail 865,000

    The competition is rather good. I thought Honda was a 2nd but on paper Ford Fiesta, Accent, and Mazda-2 is actually competitive versus the mighty Vios.
    Please share the criteria maestro

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    I find the current Vios really ugly. The front fascia reminds me of Venom.

    If the 1.6 Altis is actually cheaper than the 1.5 Vios, then I wouldn't even give it a second thought.



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    This is currently my choice. 878k is a winner...

    https://www.autoindustriya.com/car-r...cvt-prime.html

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