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    #161
    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    This thread is now flooded with crap!

    Keep it simple.

    Montero 4x4... Why?
    Sta. Fe 4x2... Why?
    Trailblazer 4x4... Why?

    As simple as a common Juan Dela Cruz would understand it.
    Fully agree. Let's go back to original question. Inviting all to share your thoughts on this.

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    #162
    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post
    Tao lang po, mahina sa graphs and numbers.

    Sige, ganito na lang...

    Do you recommend TBZ for those of us looking for a good value SUV? Why or why not?
    Kung mapera ka, I mean kung meron ka naman pambili ulet ng another SUV in the next 4-5 years, bilis-bilisan mo na go for the TBZ. Designed to be serious-defect-free naman ang mga car while still within the warranty period. Saka kung sa pandesal, masarap syempre habang mainit pa.

    In the next 2-3 years pa naman ang body renewal ng mga mainstay SUV sa Pinas so enough time pa to enjoy the car and its accompanied bragging rights.

    But if you are planning to keep it until sa next generation, think about this... possible na mahirapan ka sa availability at price ng parts lalo na kung hindi kayo makapagbuild-up ng numbers... aware ka naman siguro sa casa-price ng mga spare parts and consumables... lalo na sa engine parts.. D_mac knows it very well where the engine is coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arsen View Post
    Kung mapera ka, I mean kung meron ka naman pambili ulet ng another SUV in the next 4-5 years, bilis-bilisan mo na go for the TBZ. Designed to be serious-defect-free naman ang mga car while still within the warranty period. Saka kung sa pandesal, masarap syempre habang mainit pa.

    In the next 2-3 years pa naman ang body renewal ng mga mainstay SUV sa Pinas so enough time pa to enjoy the car and its accompanied bragging rights.

    But if you are planning to keep it until sa next generation, think about this... possible na mahirapan ka sa availability at price ng parts lalo na kung hindi kayo makapagbuild-up ng numbers... aware ka naman siguro sa casa-price ng mga spare parts and consumables... lalo na sa engine parts.. D_mac knows it very well where the engine is coming from.
    Isa ito sa mga na-experience namin with our American car. Imagine change lang ng shocks inabot na ng 70K.

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    #165
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigDaddy View Post
    Isa ito sa mga na-experience namin with our American car. Imagine change lang ng shocks inabot na ng 70K.
    *TheBigDaddy - what car are you referring to? Para maiwasan ng mga nakakabasa dito.

    By the way:
    Montero - maid in Thailand
    Santa Fe - maid in Korea
    Trailblazer - maid in Thailand

    For me, mas pulido at metikuloso sa quality ang Japan-made cars. Kaya outside of these three car options, idinagdag ko na sa choices ko yung Mazda since they are Japan CBU.

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    #166
    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    This thread is now flooded with crap!

    Keep it simple.

    Montero 4x4... Why?
    Sta. Fe 4x2... Why?
    Trailblazer 4x4... Why?

    As simple as a common Juan Dela Cruz would understand it.
    Haha i would have to agree as well!

    My choice: Santa Fe 4x2.

    Female opinion lng, i hope i dont offend you guys..

    Montero - mas gusto ko pa fortuner kasi tingin ko mas classy and sturdy yung built quality ng interior niya compared sa montero
    Trailblazer - looks too much like a US govt car.. Translated to daunting and boring at the same time in female lingo

    Now the Gen3 santa fe SWB.. even us girls gets excited to drive. Kung meron SUV na parang "wow, as ***y as a sports car" sa road natin ngayon. Ito na yun for us. Yes im bias cause this is what i drive right now, but it really is a pleasure to drive.

    Still, to each his/her own.. it will boil down to an individuals priority. This is just the best for me among the 3 choices.

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    #167
    Quote Originally Posted by dweex35 View Post
    Haha i would have to agree as well!

    My choice: Santa Fe 4x2.

    Female opinion lng, i hope i dont offend you guys..

    Montero - mas gusto ko pa fortuner kasi tingin ko mas classy and sturdy yung built quality ng interior niya compared sa montero
    Trailblazer - looks too much like a US govt car.. Translated to daunting and boring at the same time in female lingo

    Now the Gen3 santa fe SWB.. even us girls gets excited to drive. Kung meron SUV na parang "wow, as ***y as a sports car" sa road natin ngayon. Ito na yun for us. Yes im bias cause this is what i drive right now, but it really is a pleasure to drive.

    Still, to each his/her own.. it will boil down to an individuals priority. This is just the best for me among the 3 choices.
    Kami naman po ma'am nae-excite naman sa ***ing Filipina kaysa sa ***iness ng Gangnam-style Santa Fe

    Again, as you say, to each his own, that we happened to have testosterone though ingrained biologically that we can't help looking at a Filipina with oozing *** appeal hehe....

    Just messing po, don't take it seriously po....

    Cheers!




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    #168
    Quote Originally Posted by d_mac View Post
    Kami naman po ma'am nae-excite naman sa ***ing Filipina kaysa sa ***iness ng Gangnam-style Santa Fe

    Again, as you say, to each his own, that we happened to have testosterone though ingrained biologically that we can't help looking at a Filipina with oozing *** appeal hehe....

    Just messing po, don't take it seriously po....

    Cheers!



    Hahaha, none taken d_mac

    I would have to disagree with you though with the comparison to gangnam style.
    Gangnam dresses classy yet dance cheesy, Gen3 Santa fe may look classy but it's drive is anything but cheesy :D

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    #169
    Quote Originally Posted by dweex35 View Post
    Hahaha, none taken d_mac

    I would have to disagree with you though with the comparison to gangnam style.
    Gangnam dresses classy yet dance cheesy, Gen3 Santa fe may look classy but it's drive is anything but cheesy :D
    Wala palang maririnig na "Wop, wop, wop, wop, wop...." kay Saint Fe kasi hindi siya Gangnam-style, ma'am

    Cheers!



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    #170
    chief, behave! :naughty2:

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    #171
    santa fe- better than chinese made car waste of money, ang panghatak lang ng santa fe is all the freaking options like a mini ref and back massager that you will not really need!

    tbz- another korea made car. chevy-daewoo collaboration (ngayon ko lang narininig na thailand daw may gawa pero alam ko sa korea ito i might be wrong though) -kung may pera ka, go buy this and waste your money, in the sense of parts and after sales and support on the chevy dealership regardless sino pa may ari niyan bagong franchise ay walang kwenta from day one(remeber tha optra)- but for me this is just a waste of money, mga excited lang bumibili nito

    montero/fort- value for money in the sense nagkalat ang parts yung lang and no nonsense lang naman talga itong mga ito. let the freaking engine speaks for itself or stall incase of fort hahahahaha.- both the engines are tried and tested- ewan lang sa d4d pero di naman naglko engine ng cbu na hiace

    if your not rich and wasteful, this is the thing you need to check:
    1 reliability- in the sense your not gambling sa mga lemons and early hiccups (new engine nga sablay naman, damn rmember the early troopers and now hyundai(hongdai) accent)
    2 support - support in spare parts(cheap easy to get na hindi ka sakal ng casa sa neck) or availability of it and trained mechanics regarding the vehicle
    3 value for money - it's enough that your comfortable with it never mind the stupid add on(the fort was never a comfy ride- first gen fort)

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    #172
    I smell fanboys.......

    Chief d-mac, ang alam ko Isuzu Crosswind ang may back massager diba?

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    #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    I smell fanboys.......

    Chief d-mac, ang alam ko Isuzu Crosswind ang may back massager diba?
    didnt know that isuzu crosswind has a back massager

    never own any present gen isuzu car(old tropper yes)
    all my opinion was based on a freakishly month long test drive and trying to choose an suv
    eto final list - subaru xv(same price range of the fort and monter and tbz) and ford explorer... both gas guzzler!!!! both serve me well- tropper is lamost ten year old and the prado is turning 7

    PROBLEM IS AVAILABILITY OF SPARE PARTS BUT I NEED A SOMEWHAT LUXURY CAR FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES SO I CAN DRIVE INVESTORS AROUND SOME OF OUR SITE... NAGHIHINGALO NA KASI SI PRADO(TOYOTA COULD NOT EVEN FIX IT AND EVEN ASK ME FOR A MANUAL... EWAN KUNG ASAN NA YUN) AND TROOPER(TAKBO NG TAKBO PAPUNTANG BANAWE PARA SA SPARE PARTS DIESEL PLUS TOOL GATE(PhP119 ONE WAY X 2 ) JUST TO BUY A PART WHICH COST PhP350)

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    #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    I smell fanboys.......

    Chief d-mac, ang alam ko Isuzu Crosswind ang may back massager diba?
    Aywan ko chief, no pansin na sa amin si pareng Crosswind hehe


    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    chief, behave! :naughty2:
    Ahihi ahoho ayayay!

    LAVET LUFET!

    Cheers!



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    #175
    I have driven the fort, owned a montero, test driven the trailblazer... recently bought the gen 3 santa fe. Why, because I think it is the best. Some are talking about build quality of the interior... among the cars mentioned, the SF3 has the best interior in terms of build quality and looks for me. Engine is also very good and responsive. Only drawback? It is more expensive and parts availability is nowhere near toyota or mitsu. But you will only need parts when the vehicle is out of warranty, in 5 years time, i think parts would be available.

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    #176
    Quote Originally Posted by victorevolution View Post
    didnt know that isuzu crosswind has a back massager

    never own any present gen isuzu car(old tropper yes)
    all my opinion was based on a freakishly month long test drive and trying to choose an suv
    eto final list - subaru xv(same price range of the fort and monter and tbz) and ford explorer... both gas guzzler!!!! both serve me well- tropper is lamost ten year old and the prado is turning 7

    PROBLEM IS AVAILABILITY OF SPARE PARTS BUT I NEED A SOMEWHAT LUXURY CAR FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES SO I CAN DRIVE INVESTORS AROUND SOME OF OUR SITE... NAGHIHINGALO NA KASI SI PRADO(TOYOTA COULD NOT EVEN FIX IT AND EVEN ASK ME FOR A MANUAL... EWAN KUNG ASAN NA YUN) AND TROOPER(TAKBO NG TAKBO PAPUNTANG BANAWE PARA SA SPARE PARTS DIESEL PLUS TOOL GATE(PhP119 ONE WAY X 2 ) JUST TO BUY A PART WHICH COST PhP350)
    Galit?

    Kailangan naka-all caps isang paragraph?

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    #177
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Galit?

    Kailangan naka-all caps isang paragraph?
    Oo nga sir eh, ang layo din ng final list, subaru xv vs ford explorer, hmm.

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    #178
    My personal tip to the threadstarter... The value of these forums is to give you the pros and cons of your vehicle options. But once you decide, I suggest that before buying, test drive the vehicle first. Better if you test drive all the options. Once you have driven it, you will have a better idea on what we are talking about. Mind you, not all dealerships allow test driving...but findings ways to drive is one of the joys of vehicle-shopping. Personally, I dont buy cars that I havent driven or felt yet. I liken it to buying shoes, even if the shoe looks good but the feel on your feet is terrible, you will not be happy. HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjreyesmd View Post
    My personal tip to the threadstarter.... The value of these forums is to give you the pros and cons of your vehicle options. But once you decide, I suggest that before buying, test drive the vehicle first. Better if you test drive all the options. Once you have driven it, you will have a better idea on what we are talking about. Mind you, not all dealerships allow test driving...but findings ways to drive is one of the joys of vehicle-shopping.
    Quote Originally Posted by bjreyesmd View Post
    Personally, I dont buy cars that I havent driven or felt yet. I liken it to buying shoes, even if the shoe looks good but the feel on your feet is terrible, you will not be happy. HTH
    To the thread-starter, after 19 pages, FINALLY YOU HAVE GOT THE BEST and downright true-to-the-bone ADVICE from Bjreyesmd

    Remember also chief thread-starter that a LOT OF TIMES, paper specs are GO-GETHERS for a lot of buyers out there and such claims specifically on the engine power can only do so much.... Like chief Bjreyesmd, the SEAT-OF-PANTS FEEL is way too different and it should be your main basis in choosing your ride....

    Better test drive them all, and if the dealers allow you to do so hehe, just like what these Thais conducted in 2012, when they took 3 SUVs to an offroad tests (too simple for my taste, but that's just me though ;)).... Find out which ones have better off-road capabilities aside from usual city-driving, good of-the-bottom or good low-end power (low rpm power) , and see which one is screaming through the revs but couldn't easily pass through obstacles hehe

    2012 Toyota Fortuner vs Chevrolet Trailblazer vs Mitsubishi Pajerosport (Monterosport in Philippines)



    Cheers at Maligayang Pasko at Manigong Bagong Taon mga idols!




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    #180
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Galit?

    Kailangan naka-all caps isang paragraph?
    Siraulo.

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