Used Van for P350k

[daddy]

I am looking for a 2nd hand van, AUV or SUV for my growing family. Me, my wife, my 3 kids(10year old, 8year old and 3year old) and sometimes my mother or my wife's mother come along for a ride. My tight budget is 350k to slightly higher, say up to 380k. My wife sometimes drives also, so she prefers matic.

I am looking at some prospects:
1. Toyota - REVO VX200, Avanza or if available Innova J
2. Mits - Adventure, Spacegear, Serena
3. Hyundai - Starex(intercooler models)
4. Honda - CRV (2nd generation)
5. Japan surplus - Granvia, El grand, Serena, Pajero, Hiace

What will fit my needs? In terms of fuel efficiency & repairs, what is the best? I also would want a van which can handle some long travels (Pampanga, Tagaytay, Subic and once a year Baguio)

We have a 01' Honda Civic VTI-S and I am having a hard time fitting all of us.

Thanks in advance for helping me and my family.

[dcph172]

serena is nissan, not mitsubishi.

try mo hanap local pajero 2nd gen. baka 400k meron na. konting dagdag na lang sa 380k max budget mo. if may makita ka, yun na kunin mo.

sa list mo ill prolly get the revo vx200. in brown or blue. :D or the 2nd gen CRV na walang borloloy.

innova J sana kaso parang wala ata less than 400k nun yet?

avanza, X mo na yan sa list. lalo na kung J din lang makukuha mo which is too bare and tagtag, revo vx kana lang.

also ill pick spacegear over a starex that costs 380k and less. i dont know lang which model pero ill stay away with the early model starex.

[fullmetal]

actually sa 350k price range mayroon ng mga local 2nd gen pajero eh. may mga nakita ako dating nagtitingin-tingin ako ng tsikot sa mga buy-and-sell sites. tiyagaan lang!

[CVT]

RevO or Adventure should be good value-for-money options for you (Wala lang nga yatang A/T na Adventure earlier)....

12.7K:fart1:

[myk384]

RevO or Adventure should be good value-for-money options for you (Wala lang nga yatang A/T na Adventure earlier)....

12.7K:fart1:

Mga gasoline variants ng Adventure meron..

If I were you (the TS), forget about the Japanese surplus, sakit lang yan sa ulo.

[Ry_Tower]

Get an advie or revo diesel IMO. The gen 2 paj is ok if you can find a really good mechanic that will help you check. Kahit JDM paj ok din basta marunong ka lang tumingin at mag-check.

[ghosthunter]

IMHO, you should cross out the Honda CRV (2nd gen) from your list. This suv has a thirst for gasoline and with the current cost of fuel, it might leave your wallet empty. Ironically the 1st gen CRV has better fuel economy.

But even then, the seating capacity of the CRV is roughly same as a Civic but with only better cargo space.

Your better options about be the Innova J or Hyundai Starex. (I am assuming you are choosing the Innova diesel.)

[eljo3025]

Get a Revo 1.8 SR in white. I like the SR better than the VX200. Because IMO the SR looks more up to date than the VX 200.

If you can have M/T get an Adventure at least it's still sold in the market.

[daddy]

Thank you for all who replied.

The more popular choices are Revo, Adventure and the 2nd gen Pajero.

If I get the diesel variants of the said choices, I have some concerns. Do diesel engines have lifespan of 5 years only? After, malakas na usok and overhaul should be done?

What are some of the differences between the Revo VX200 and the SR models?

How much are 2nd hand 1.5 Avanza's A/T? Is it better than the choices, FC & repair wise?

And what is the JDM Pajero?

[myk384]

Thank you for all who replied.

The more popular choices are Revo, Adventure and the 2nd gen Pajero.

If I get the diesel variants of the said choices, I have some concerns. Do diesel engines have lifespan of 5 years only? After, malakas na usok and overhaul should be done?

What are some of the differences between the Revo VX200 and the SR models?

How much are 2nd hand 1.5 Avanza's A/T? Is it better than the choices, FC & repair wise?

And what is the JDM Pajero?

1. It's not true, if you maintain it properly, your diesel engined car can withstand years.

2. The VX200 is the luxury version of the Revo, the top of the line. It has two headrest monitors, leather seats, DVD player, chrome appointments, etc. The SR (short for Sports Runner) is the second to the highest trim variant of the Revo. It does not have leather seats, dvd player, etc. But fits your needs to a t

3. The price of the Avanza 1.5 is usually in the range of P450T-550T. If you do long road trips all the time, the Avanza is not a good choice, but maintenance and FC wise, it is on par with dieseled variants of the Adventure.

4. The JDM Pajero is, well, the Pajero sold in Subic, Cagayan, and Cebu. Usually converted, has different exterior appointments than local variants. So as much as possible, avoid.

Since you've mentioned AT is preferable, I suggest you take a look on the Isuzu Crosswind. It has AT variants.

Happy Shopping!

[GTi]

I am looking for a 2nd hand van, AUV or SUV for my growing family. Me, my wife, my 3 kids(10year old, 8year old and 3year old) and sometimes my mother or my wife's mother come along for a ride. My tight budget is 350k to slightly higher, say up to 380k. My wife sometimes drives also, so she prefers matic.

I am looking at some prospects:
1. Toyota - REVO VX200, Avanza or if available Innova J
2. Mits - Adventure, Spacegear, Serena
3. Hyundai - Starex(intercooler models)
4. Honda - CRV (2nd generation)
5. Japan surplus - Granvia, El grand, Serena, Pajero, Hiace

What will fit my needs? In terms of fuel efficiency & repairs, what is the best? I also would want a van which can handle some long travels (Pampanga, Tagaytay, Subic and once a year Baguio)

We have a 01' Honda Civic VTI-S and I am having a hard time fitting all of us.

Thanks in advance for helping me and my family.

With your choices, you'll be sorely missing the performance and amenities of your Civic VTi-S. IMHO, best choices are the Innova J and Starex Turbo Intercooler. But 2nd hand Innova's sell for 400k+ and above. The Starex is the most comfortable among your choices but look out for any sort of rust problems that have plagued early units. Intercooled variants should not be terribly short on power as long as it is well maintained. The Revo is OK. You can get the GLX diesel variant for all power amenities, though the engine is not particularly strong, ride is so-so and interior is space is rather limited. Forget the CRV, its cramped for lots of people and guzzles gas. Japan surplus is fine as long as that particular model is also sold locally so that parts shouldn't be a problem, and you are 101% sure that the conversion is properly done.

Here are some that you may be interested in:
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...bo+Intercooler
http://www.ayosdito.ph/Kia+Carnival+...746.htm?last=1
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...bo+Intercooler

[boytira]

im also planning to buy a van. mga sir how about a sedona/carnival? benz vito?i think crdi na mga engines nito?

[zap.FREEDOM]

go for the TOYOTA REVO VX200 diesel, but automatic tranny variant are very rare, sure na tiyaga-tiyaga ka dyan sa hanapan for those people who selling this type of variant.

I pick the Revo vx200 for you because you got looks (eps. the chrome grills, oem mags which is looks good, classic body design, two-tone color, etc. gwapo naman ang revo), you got power, in my opinion 2.4 diesel engine is sufficient for your needs, it's engine is enough for its big body and a 9 passenger and I sure if you want to harness some speed on it I'm sorry first to tell it will not make you satisfy, it is not fast as you think like other cars in your list, way back 2008 when I experiened driving a Revo vx2000 manual tranny nga lang also a diesel variant I only got a 130 kph w/ a 5 passenger on board but when it comes to UPHILL climbing I assure and guarantee you that REVO's won't let you down, I swear, you can race to other cars in the inclines of Baguio and tagaytay.


another pro's of revo are:

LOW MAINTENANCE COST
CHEAP COST OF REPAIRS PARTS
THICK BODY
ENOUGH AIRCON COOLNESS
SPACIOUS CABIN and LEGROOMS are nice
TOYOTA POWER STEERING IS SO NICE



and the con's are:

REAR LEAF SPRING SUSPENSION medyo may tagtag -medyo lang ah and may quite squeaky *langitngit* sound from it
DIESEL ENGINE revo diesel engine is quite noisy if you are outside the car, the engine noise is noticable but inside the cabin engine noise is alright (tahimik naman kapag nasa loob)

P.S stay away from GAS VARIANTS REVO they are gas guzzler, if you want an another option I recommend the ISUZU CROSSWIND XT or the XTO)

[GTi]

im also planning to buy a van. mga sir how about a sedona/carnival? benz vito?i think crdi na mga engines nito?

Stay away from the German, it'll be a pain to maintain. The Sedona/Carnival is nice. Facelifted version is preferred, but get only the manuals. The A/T of that car is something to be avoided.

*TS: I don't think there are diesel Revo's with automatic transmissions. AFAIK only the gas Revo's have them. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the VX200 variant is a gasoline variant. Its diesel equivalent is the VX240D.

As for the Crosswind, its slow, noisy, smoky and uncomfortable. I suggest you look for the Starex Turbo Intercooler (make sure it has the intercooler, since earlier versions don't and they have significantly less power), or the even more powerful Carnival/Sedona (manuals only!).

Happy car hunting!

[daddy]

Thanks, GTI for the free ads. I am strongly considering the Starex Intercooler. I drove the non intercooler Starex way back and it was really slow, but I liked the ride. Does the intercooler really makes a big difference on speed? What are the diff between the RV and other 1999-2003 models? My observations re Starex I saw and heard:

1. makes squeeky sound, maybe sa shocks?
2. parking lights, head lights, brake lights busted or not working
3. what is the use of the ladder? will it hold the person climbing it?
4. club version - imported or local?


Re Revo, is the SR' engine different from the VX200?

[daddy]

And what is the FC for these intercooler Starex? thanks.

[GTi]

Thanks, GTI for the free ads. I am strongly considering the Starex Intercooler. I drove the non intercooler Starex way back and it was really slow, but I liked the ride. Does the intercooler really makes a big difference on speed? What are the diff between the RV and other 1999-2003 models? My observations re Starex I saw and heard:

1. makes squeeky sound, maybe sa shocks?
2. parking lights, head lights, brake lights busted or not working
3. what is the use of the ladder? will it hold the person climbing it?
4. club version - imported or local?


Re Revo, is the SR' engine different from the VX200?

An intercooler makes a big difference. A 2.5L intercooler turbo direct injection engine (1st generation Ranger/Everest) is actually more powerful than a 2.5L CRDi turbo without intercooler (Innova/Fortuner/Hilux/Hiace). According to Starex_Gold, the turbo intercooler Starex makes 105hp, 20 more than the non-intercooler version. Squeeky sound? I'm sure if everything is well maintained, there shouldn't be anything like that. The lights not working should be ordinary for any car, it is part of the consumables anyway. Yes, the ladder is for easier access to the roof rack, we had a family friend with a 2000 Starex Club. And I've personally seen the driving climbing that ladder and loading luggage on the roof. Yes, the Club variant was sold locally.

AFAIK the Revo SR uses the petrol 1.8L 7K . While the VX200 uses the petrol 2.0L 1RZ-E.

I'm not sure as to the fuel mileage. For that you'd have to ask Starex_gold. He owns one.

[basti08]

I strongly recommend the Starex AT but the Crosswind XTO AT is also a good choice given that your family and not your driving pleasure is its main purpose.

The XTO is sturdy, fuel efficient and has about every space your family needs.

[daddy]

Are all crosswind models direct inject already? I saw some ads re the XT models which sells below 400thou. What are the differnces of these crosswind models?

[GTi]

Yes, they are all direct injected but not electronically controlled. There is basically almost no differences in the engine and drivetrain of the Crosswind since the Hilander first debuted. Lately though, the M/T models started to have the low pressure turbo found in the A/T models to help emissions (but not much with the performance). The differences between the different Crosswind models are basically just level of equipment, nothing more. I'm not sure if the XUV and Sportivo variants have any differences in the suspension though. But I would not be getting this if I were you. Especially if you will always be using the 3rd row. The suspension is sturdy but you'll be feeling its sturdiness quite a lot as well. Safety is also not very good as the Crosswind uses very soft steel so much so that it doesn't know what the words "crash structure" means.

In comparison, a Kia Carnival which has 5 star crash rating from the NHTSA and a 135hp turbo intercooler engine costs less than the Crosswind. So I don't find it that worth it. I'd prefer this over the Starex too as it is more civilized, comfortable, powerful and has quite a lot of equipment.