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    Hello mga tsikoteers, first time ko po bibili ng 2nd hand car as my 1st car. I'm looking for 2012-2014 models ng Vios 1.3E AT or City 2009 - 2011 AT models. Need tips po kung ano mas okay na model na imaintain.

    1. I will use it po for casual driving. Kasi I'm working at manila at kapag nasa batangas lng ako tsaka ko sya gagamitin. Meaning every weekend.

    2. In terms of FC and maintenance alin po ang mas madali at mas mura I maintain.

    3. Since first time ko po bibili, ano po mga docs na need ko kunin sa seller? (OR/CR, DOS, etc). Although, feeling ko sa 2nd hand dealer na lang ako kukuha para complete docs na.

    4. Any other model na pwede pong include sa choices?? Thanks po sa lahat ng inputs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticxz View Post
    Hello mga tsikoteers, first time ko po bibili ng 2nd hand car as my 1st car. I'm looking for 2012-2014 models ng Vios 1.3E AT or City 2009 - 2011 AT models. Need tips po kung ano mas okay na model na imaintain.

    1. I will use it po for casual driving. Kasi I'm working at manila at kapag nasa batangas lng ako tsaka ko sya gagamitin. Meaning every weekend.

    2. In terms of FC and maintenance alin po ang mas madali at mas mura I maintain.

    3. Since first time ko po bibili, ano po mga docs na need ko kunin sa seller? (OR/CR, DOS, etc). Although, feeling ko sa 2nd hand dealer na lang ako kukuha para complete docs na.

    4. Any other model na pwede pong include sa choices?? Thanks po sa lahat ng inputs.
    Previous gen Yaris. It's the hip Vios that will never be mistaken for a cab. NonCVT, too.[emoji4]

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    Thanks sir, ung old gen na yaris ba mas okay FC at ano itsura non? wala ako idea na may ibang look pala ang vios haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticxz View Post
    Hello mga tsikoteers, first time ko po bibili ng 2nd hand car as my 1st car. I'm looking for 2012-2014 models ng Vios 1.3E AT or City 2009 - 2011 AT models. Need tips po kung ano mas okay na model na imaintain.

    1. I will use it po for casual driving. Kasi I'm working at manila at kapag nasa batangas lng ako tsaka ko sya gagamitin. Meaning every weekend.

    2. In terms of FC and maintenance alin po ang mas madali at mas mura I maintain.

    3. Since first time ko po bibili, ano po mga docs na need ko kunin sa seller? (OR/CR, DOS, etc). Although, feeling ko sa 2nd hand dealer na lang ako kukuha para complete docs na.

    4. Any other model na pwede pong include sa choices?? Thanks po sa lahat ng inputs.
    basta not ex-taxi, big step na yan.
    buy from an actual seller-owner, "who is selling the car to make way for his new car". they are probably more amenable to discounts, and probably took better care of the car than the bayan sellers who know next to nothing about the car they are hawking, and might even be masking certain defects...

    documents to exchange hands: original dapat CR and deed of sale. and xerox of seller's current IDs daw. OR puede xerox. mortgage release papers kung applicable. but personally, i prefer cars that are already in the name of the seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticxz View Post
    Thanks sir, ung old gen na yaris ba mas okay FC at ano itsura non? wala ako idea na may ibang look pala ang vios haha
    FC is like a Vios. A bud so loved his, he got his wife an identical one.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    documents to exchange hands: original dapat CR and deed of sale. and xerox of seller's current IDs daw. OR puede xerox. mortgage release papers kung applicable. but personally, i prefer cars that are already in the name of the seller.
    Ito rin iniisip ko doc, i see a lot of b&s shops selling 1st owner vehicles. I think they hold an open DOS, so how do we approach such situations? Is this a simple off the showroom transaction or will the owner appear in person to present credentials during the sale?

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    Hi guys,

    Im in the market for a second hand 7-seater. Since im low on budget, im looking at the 2003 Kia Carnival, Nissan Serena or Mazda MPV. I need some advice on fuel consumption, parts availability and durability.

    Thanks!

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    i think the old starex is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticxz View Post
    Hello mga tsikoteers, first time ko po bibili ng 2nd hand car as my 1st car. I'm looking for 2012-2014 models ng Vios 1.3E AT or City 2009 - 2011 AT models. Need tips po kung ano mas okay na model na imaintain.

    1. I will use it po for casual driving. Kasi I'm working at manila at kapag nasa batangas lng ako tsaka ko sya gagamitin. Meaning every weekend.

    2. In terms of FC and maintenance alin po ang mas madali at mas mura I maintain.

    3. Since first time ko po bibili, ano po mga docs na need ko kunin sa seller? (OR/CR, DOS, etc). Although, feeling ko sa 2nd hand dealer na lang ako kukuha para complete docs na.

    4. Any other model na pwede pong include sa choices?? Thanks po sa lahat ng inputs.
    Since FC is one of your concerns DON'T BUY A VIOS.

    I operate 16 Grab cars since 2014.

    I had 4 Vios... I sold all of it as it's FC is so bad we lost money,.

    Spare parts were surprisingly pricey as well

    Why is there hundreds of Ex Uber/Grab Vios being sold in Olx?

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    ^ malakas pala konsumo ng vios?!!

    Akala ko all this time kasi matipid sya bro.

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    ^the latest vios has a bigger body compared to its predecessor and basically the same engine

    Bigger body are aerodynamically more inefficient and heavier as well

    Thats why

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    ^ but i doubt he's talking about the latest vios release

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodvibes8888 View Post
    i think the old starex is better

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    We are also considering Starex kaya lang medyo bulky. How about Previa or Venture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticxz View Post
    Hello mga tsikoteers, first time ko po bibili ng 2nd hand car as my 1st car. I'm looking for 2012-2014 models ng Vios 1.3E AT or City 2009 - 2011 AT models. Need tips po kung ano mas okay na model na imaintain.

    1. I will use it po for casual driving. Kasi I'm working at manila at kapag nasa batangas lng ako tsaka ko sya gagamitin. Meaning every weekend.

    2. In terms of FC and maintenance alin po ang mas madali at mas mura I maintain.

    3. Since first time ko po bibili, ano po mga docs na need ko kunin sa seller? (OR/CR, DOS, etc). Although, feeling ko sa 2nd hand dealer na lang ako kukuha para complete docs na.

    4. Any other model na pwede pong include sa choices?? Thanks po sa lahat ng inputs.
    So basically you are looking for a weekend car. Not something for the daily commute. This means you can afford to get a more "fun" car as opposed to the most fuel efficient but "boring" car.

    Go for the City. The 1.5 even, if budget permits. Since you said that you'll be using it in the province, with a light foot, FC will still be more than decent. 85hp 1.3 plus old school 4AT means only so-so FC for the Vios along with underwhelming performance should you gun it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukedette View Post
    Hi guys,

    Im in the market for a second hand 7-seater. Since im low on budget, im looking at the 2003 Kia Carnival, Nissan Serena or Mazda MPV. I need some advice on fuel consumption, parts availability and durability.

    Thanks!
    The 1st gen Carnival is cheap. So very dirt cheap in fact that I am wary as to how well it will hold up. There have been stories before about reliability issues especially with regards to the automatic transmission.

    The Mazda MPV has the same engine as the 1st gen Ranger/Everest. Not so sure if the rest of the parts are just as readily available though since it was only sold in limited numbers.

    Nissan Serena is nice. Comfy and decently powerful. But FC is not very good. Some Japan surplus units come with the Navara's YD25 engine. But then of course you have to deal with the typical conversion problems (A/C, steering, brakes, front suspension) if you're unlucky.

    The 1st gen Starex also fits in this price bracket, I believe. At least get the "turbo intercooler" version. Guaranteed parts supply anywhere in the long run and guaranteed mechanic familiarity. Its not particularly known for durability, but at least it'll be cheap to fix and run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ^ but i doubt he's talking about the latest vios release

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Grab cars travel 200-250kms, 14-16hrs a day... Pag days a week.

    That's how we know...

    I've been with Grab/Uber since 2014. I've tried almost all sedans, except Volkswagen

    That's why we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ^ but i doubt he's talking about the latest vios release

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    The latest Vios has the same engine, only new shell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    ^the latest vios has a bigger body compared to its predecessor and basically the same engine

    Bigger body are aerodynamically more inefficient and heavier as well

    Thats why

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    The latest Vios' (after Superman) body is smaller, cabin, headroom, and leg room are smaller that Vios Superman.

    Engine and most parts are the same, except the shell.

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    ^The shell or the exterior affects the aerodynamic property of the car not the interior..drag is the force that is opppsite to the direction of the movement of a car..more drag means more fuel you need to burn

    More weight requires more energy to move one object from one point to another. Hence, heavy cars are more thirsty on the fuel

    Those are the laws of physics not toyota marketing

    This is comparing old body vios with the latest body of a vios

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    Last edited by kisshmet; January 7th, 2019 at 05:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ^ but i doubt he's talking about the latest vios release

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Gamit sa uber di ba..so latest vios lang ang pwede

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