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January 6th, 2013 08:07 PM #41Dun sa upuan... I'm not really one to complain about hard seats, as I find these give great support and are much more durable in the long run, especially if said seat is leather. Take our Revo's seats for example. Material is high grade moquette. Very softly upholstered too. Can make for a rather comfortable bed if I wanted. But my back starts complaining if the driving time exceeds an hour or so. The Accord's seats on the other hand are really hard. Its actually quite similar to the FD's seats. But then it gives excellent support even in long drives and still looks pretty much the same since the day it was bought.
SiR? Kung hindi ka naman kumakarera lagi, dun ka na sa ES. Sure the SiR has a hell of an engine, but it has no safety features whatsoever besides the 4 wheel disc brakes. Very scary if you ask me. Yung VTi-S variant ng ES meron nang ABS/EBD and airbags. Besides, it already has 130hp on tap, which is already very respectable for a 1.6L engine even by today's standards.
Pangit ang Nissan? Not necessarily. Parts for the Sentra are actually pretty widespread, since it is used for cab service.
A/T's have come a very long way since the 90s, but they are still inferior to manuals in terms of performance and fuel efficiency. Manuals are still much simpler, lighter and more durable. There are some modern manuals that use a dual mass flywheel though. These are quite expensive to replace and may be what your friend is referring to.
2002 Grandis? Wala pa atang Grandis nun dito ah. Converted ba yan? That one has the GDi engine, which would probably explain the good FC. The local Grandis is classified as a minivan, and is based off the Galant with the traditional MPI engine. Ride comfort and performance are good but FC should be just around 5-7km/L city.
Bat binebenta after just a short time? There are many possible reasons. Some dahil naaksidente o nabaha. Others dahil aalis na sila. Yung iba dahil hindi na bagay sa route nila (for example subcompact sedan then mining area ang workplace). Others still dahil lang nasawa na. I know of people with deep pockets who would change their cars like they change cellphones.
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January 7th, 2013 12:44 AM #43Hahaha! Oo.. Sila nga ang paborito kong sakyan kapag late na ako e.. grabe byaheng langit! Tapos yung mga ordinary bus na kahit kailan hindi napupuno. Lol.
:drool: FD Civic! Naghuhunting nga ako ng mga 300k+ lang e.. may nakikita ako sa sulit at ayosdito kaya lang sa Rizal pa.. ang layo at di ko alam puntahan. Di naman sa gusto iyabang o iporma.. parang ang sarap lang i-drive lalo na kung manual grabe!
Wala pa talaga.. A1 lang lol. Nung nag tetest drive ako tuwang-tuwa na ako e.. hehe.. at halatang newbie.
Oo.. di naman kami mayaman kaya malaki-laking pera din yun kaya hangga't maari gusto ko yung gusto ko na pero depende parin talaga sa budget. Ok na sana ako sa Sentra B14 o kaya sa Honda ESI.. kaya lang gusto nila ng medyo bata at safe.. ayun.. nadagdagan budget. Nakita ko yung facelifted na ES Civic.. nainlove ako! Lol. Kung wala talagang FD sa budget ko mag ES nalang ako or Altis. Plano ko din i-update ito para din makahingi ng advice.
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January 7th, 2013 01:01 AM #44Ahhh.. hehe.. di pa nakakaupo sa ganun.. sana in the near future.
Di ko din trip ang mangarera at gusto ko yung malinis at makintab lang yung sasakyan. Di na need na may mga sticker ng kung ano-anong car shop. Yung elegant tingnan hindi racecar. Pero sabi ng pinsan ko sinasabi ko lang daw yan sa una.. pag tumagal daw at gumaling na ako magmaneho.. baka daw paulanin ko ng mods at body kits yung sasakyan at ipang-karera. Lol. I hope not. hehe.
Btw, thanks sa tip sa ES Civic na facelifted. Nakakita ako sa hondacarclup.ph.. ang ganda! Hehehe.. imeet ko siya this week. Any common problems with the ES Civics?
Hmm.. grabe naman bad rep ng Nissan. Dati isa sa mga top prospects iyon lalo na ok naman sa akin yung itsura at isa pa ang baba ng resale value! Pero after ng sabi ng mga kasama ko nung nagtingin ng sasakyan parang ayaw ko na. I guess, having a low resale value has its reason.
Yep, imported yun pero hindi converted. Hmm.. so totoo nga na iba yung technology ng engine niya compared sa common dito sa atin. Kala ko todo sales talk lang siya kasi nga nirereto niya sasakyan niya. Hehe. At sabi niya siya lang or kung merong iba.. super rare o kaya iilan lang daw ang naka grandis na 2002 dito yung may sunroof. Hmm.. ok ba yun sa 350k? Kasi nagtingin ako sa sulit at ayosdito nasa 200-300+ lang pero mga late 90s at ilang 2000s pero siguro mga local grandis lang iyon?
Wow sa sobrang deep pockets. Lol. I guess all are reasonable (kasama yung mga shady reasons).
Maraming salamat mga paps sa advice, info at insights! Ang laki ng tulong niyo sa pagpili ko ng itatabi ko sa higaan ko lol.
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Ahhh.. hehe.. di pa nakakaupo sa ganun.. sana in the near future.
Di ko din trip ang mangarera at gusto ko yung malinis at makintab lang yung sasakyan. Di na need na may mga sticker ng kung ano-anong car shop. Yung elegant tingnan hindi racecar. Pero sabi ng pinsan ko sinasabi ko lang daw yan sa una.. pag tumagal daw at gumaling na ako magmaneho.. baka daw paulanin ko ng mods at body kits yung sasakyan at ipang-karera. Lol. I hope not. hehe.
Btw, thanks sa tip sa ES Civic na facelifted. Nakakita ako sa hondacarclup.ph.. ang ganda! Hehehe.. imeet ko siya this week. Any common problems with the ES Civics?
Hmm.. grabe naman bad rep ng Nissan. Dati isa sa mga top prospects iyon lalo na ok naman sa akin yung itsura at isa pa ang baba ng resale value! Pero after ng sabi ng mga kasama ko nung nagtingin ng sasakyan parang ayaw ko na. I guess, having a low resale value has its reason.
Yep, imported yun pero hindi converted. Hmm.. so totoo nga na iba yung technology ng engine niya compared sa common dito sa atin. Kala ko todo sales talk lang siya kasi nga nirereto niya sasakyan niya. Hehe. At sabi niya siya lang or kung merong iba.. super rare o kaya iilan lang daw ang naka grandis na 2002 dito yung may sunroof. Hmm.. ok ba yun sa 350k? Kasi nagtingin ako sa sulit at ayosdito nasa 200-300+ lang pero mga late 90s at ilang 2000s pero siguro mga local grandis lang iyon?
Wow sa sobrang deep pockets. Lol. I guess all are reasonable (kasama yung mga shady reasons).
Maraming salamat mga paps sa advice, info at insights! Ang laki ng tulong niyo sa pagpili ko ng itatabi ko sa higaan ko lol.
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January 7th, 2013 01:12 AM #45Paano ko malalaman kung dual mass flywheel? May ganitong transmission ba sa mga MT variant ng mga prospects ko ngayon namely (according to priority xD) FD Civic, ES Civic, Altis, Sentra GSX?
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Paano ko malalaman kung dual mass flywheel? May ganitong transmission ba sa mga MT variant ng mga prospects ko ngayon namely (according to priority xD) FD Civic, ES Civic, Altis, Sentra GSX?
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January 7th, 2013 11:04 PM #46Haha!~ May katotohanan din ang sinasabi ng kaibigan mo bro! Nung medyo baguhan palang ako, I used to be the most tame driver in a family full of fast drivers. Ngayon medyo na BI na. I probably might consider modifying the cars in the future if there is some spare money, pero yung madaling bolt ons lang like filter and chip. I have never been a fan of body kits or lowering springs. Hindi na practical eh, usually ang labas mukha pang pambata.
Dun naman sa Grandis ng kaibigan mo... It may be a good car in itself but stay away from it! Ikaw mismo nagsabi na halos walang ganito sa atin. This also means kaunti lang ang kayang umayos ng mga mahihirap at wala kang mahahanap na piyesa!
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Haha!~ May katotohanan din ang sinasabi ng kaibigan mo bro! Nung medyo baguhan palang ako, I used to be the most tame driver in a family full of fast drivers. Ngayon medyo na BI na. I probably might consider modifying the cars in the future if there is some spare money, pero yung madaling bolt ons lang like filter and chip. I have never been a fan of body kits or lowering springs. Hindi na practical eh, usually ang labas mukha pang pambata.
Dun naman sa Grandis ng kaibigan mo... It may be a good car in itself but stay away from it! Ikaw mismo nagsabi na halos walang ganito sa atin. This also means kaunti lang ang kayang umayos ng mga mahihirap at wala kang mahahanap na piyesa!
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January 9th, 2013 05:22 PM #47Lol. Sana naman hindi. Anyway, ayaw ko din magmukang rice yung sasakyan. Tamang rims lang or palitan ko nalang ng paint.. gusto ko kasi black yung sasakyan para mas mukang elegant or luxury yung sasakyan xD.
Ayaw ko din naman ng minivan/auv/suv. Wala akong balak magsakay ng madaming tao.. hindi ako private driver lol. Occasionally siyempre at kapag kailangan lang.
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May i-meet ako sa sat at sun na mga FD Civic 2006 na 1.8S at 1.8V at ang asking price ay nagrarange ng 395-430k. Paano ba ang tawaran diyan? Let's say all are in good running condition and pristine exterior and interior, how much can you haggle? And if there's any minor conditions yung car or good mechanical and electrical components but with not so good to good exterior and interor, how much can I get the price down?
Last, paano mag background check sa sasakyan bukod sa LTO text message about sa plate nila? Nakwento kasi ng couzin ko na minsan nadadaya daw yung plate at nagagawan ng kakambal? So hindi siya ganun ka reliable/accurate.
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Lol. Sana naman hindi. Anyway, ayaw ko din magmukang rice yung sasakyan. Tamang rims lang or palitan ko nalang ng paint.. gusto ko kasi black yung sasakyan para mas mukang elegant or luxury yung sasakyan xD.
Ayaw ko din naman ng minivan/auv/suv. Wala akong balak magsakay ng madaming tao.. hindi ako private driver lol. Occasionally siyempre at kapag kailangan lang.
Update:
May i-meet ako sa sat at sun na mga FD Civic 2006 na 1.8S at 1.8V at ang asking price ay nagrarange ng 395-430k. Paano ba ang tawaran diyan? Let's say all are in good running condition and pristine exterior and interior, how much can you haggle? And if there's any minor conditions yung car or good mechanical and electrical components but with not so good to good exterior and interor, how much can I get the price down?
Last, paano mag background check sa sasakyan bukod sa LTO text message about sa plate nila? Nakwento kasi ng couzin ko na minsan nadadaya daw yung plate at nagagawan ng kakambal? So hindi siya ganun ka reliable/accurate.
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January 9th, 2013 10:53 PM #48Take note though that if you change the color, you will have to update the papers at the LTO. Also, it costs much to have a good quality repaint. Besides, the original factory paint is almost always the one with the best quality as the whole body was dipped in it instead of sprayed. And we have plenty of experience with black. Its a nice color, but only if you are willing to keep the car clean and wax it every so often!
Haha~ Hindi naman nakakahiya gumamit ng minivan/AUV/SUV. I use them quite a lot, oftentimes I am just alone. Aside from the bigger seating capacity, the higher ground clearance and reinforced underpinnings are great assets in the Philippine driving environment wherein frequent flooding, bad road conditions and heavy traffic are prevalent. Kapag mababa ang kotse, may tendencies na mabubully ka ng mga taller cars, lalo na ng mga PUV, and possibly including me. :rofl:
That price range for the FD is reasonable. Perhaps the most you can haggle is around 30-50k. Check out the mileage, any scratches and dents, weird sounds... You know the drill.
Nagagawan ng kambal ang plaka... Paano naman madadaya yan? Edi hindi magmatch lahat ng data nung pinalitang plaka sa database ng LTO. The only other way I can think of at the moment is chassis macro etching at Crame.
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Take note though that if you change the color, you will have to update the papers at the LTO. Also, it costs much to have a good quality repaint. Besides, the original factory paint is almost always the one with the best quality as the whole body was dipped in it instead of sprayed. And we have plenty of experience with black. Its a nice color, but only if you are willing to keep the car clean and wax it every so often!
Haha~ Hindi naman nakakahiya gumamit ng minivan/AUV/SUV. I use them quite a lot, oftentimes I am just alone. Aside from the bigger seating capacity, the higher ground clearance and reinforced underpinnings are great assets in the Philippine driving environment wherein frequent flooding, bad road conditions and heavy traffic are prevalent. Kapag mababa ang kotse, may tendencies na mabubully ka ng mga taller cars, lalo na ng mga PUV, and possibly including me. :rofl:
That price range for the FD is reasonable. Perhaps the most you can haggle is around 30-50k. Check out the mileage, any scratches and dents, weird sounds... You know the drill.
Nagagawan ng kambal ang plaka... Paano naman madadaya yan? Edi hindi magmatch lahat ng data nung pinalitang plaka sa database ng LTO. The only other way I can think of at the moment is chassis macro etching at Crame.
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January 10th, 2013 07:06 AM #49Hindi ako nahihiya.. siyempre like me na student pa.. mamaya itake advatage pa ako ng mga classmates ko.. may masabi pa kapag hindi ko pinasakay.
So biglang haggle ng 30k-50k tapos from there pwede na kami mag compromise sa presyo? Kasi may nagsabi sa akin na 5k-10k lang daw ang tawaran at kapag lets say nag tawad ako ng 20k+ agad baka daw murahin ako ng seller lol.
How much does macro etching will cost me? Do I have to bring the unit to Crame for that? Pwede ko ba gawin yun bago bilhin?
Ahm.. Kung ok lang po.. pwede po magbigay kayo ng list sa pag background check ng sasakyan at yung mga dapat tingnan sa sasakyan? Para hindi naman ako total clueless sa pagtingin at hindi nasa mercy ng mekaniko ko..lol. Salamat sainyo!
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January 10th, 2013 04:16 PM #50Ahh~ Never had that problem. Ang mga kaklase ko natuto pang mahiya.
Yes, but it depends on the car. Some sellers will only give 5-10k or even nothing at all especially if the car is in very good condition and with many people inquiring. Others still put a big space for negotiation from the actual price they are aiming to sell so that you will feel like you are getting a very good deal.
Sorry I can't answer the question on macro etching since we have never had to do that before.
If there is even the slightest suspicion of the car having any problems whether mechanical or legal, walk away. There are many other fish in the sea, so to speak. As much as possible, do not visit a car on a rainy day. That way you will have a hard time looking for imperfections on the exterior. Look for traces of flooding. Rust and mud in isolated areas... There are many other things to consider, try looking up other threads here as this has been brought up many times already.
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