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    #21
    To the TS, it really depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for a car to take you from point A to point B without any fanfare, it's the Vios for you. If you are fond of driving (with economy to boot), my vote goes to the Accent CRDI. FYI, to give you a more easily understandable way of imagining the fuel efficiency of the engine, I went to Baguio a couple of summers ago (from my house in Bacoor, Cavite) & the only time the fuel gauge moved 1 bar from full was when I was going up Kennon road. Try to get a Vios to match that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    To the TS, it really depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for a car to take you from point A to point B without any fanfare, it's the Vios for you. If you are fond of driving (with economy to boot), my vote goes to the Accent CRDI. FYI, to give you a more easily understandable way of imagining the fuel efficiency of the engine, I went to Baguio a couple of summers ago (from my house in Bacoor, Cavite) & the only time the fuel gauge moved 1 bar from full was when I was going up Kennon road. Try to get a Vios to match that.
    I'll push with the Accent even i own a Vios. Highway runs are better off with diesels

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    For me a diesel's best selling point is the torque. Iba talaga ang hatak lalo na uphill. Where a gasoline car would need 2 or 3 downshifts a diesel just climbs without even one hiccup. I've had several gasoline cars before (mazda 323, nissan sentra, toyota supra, mitsu lancer) but when i got my first diesel crdi (hyundai starex grx) i never looked back. And they are as fast, if not faster, than equivalent or even bigger displacement gasoline cars.

    plus na lang yung fuel economy. Bonus yung lower cost ng diesel.

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    #24
    thanks sa mga inputs sir, im decided to get the accent diesel how can i properly maintain it? aside from change oil, oil filter, warm up sa turbo bago patakbuhin/wag and wag muna patayin agad yung makina, what else should i worry about?

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    #25
    Read the owner's manual before you drive it, especially the section on proper breaking in procedure. Avoid excessive idling, EGR cleaning every 40-50k kms, ci-4 to cj-4 rated diesel oil, if possible, use fully synthetic oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Read the owner's manual before you drive it, especially the section on proper breaking in procedure. Avoid excessive idling, EGR cleaning every 40-50k kms, ci-4 to cj-4 rated diesel oil, if possible, use fully synthetic oil.
    bro alam ko pareho sa gas and diesel masama idling, pero bakit mas masama sa diesel? thanks!

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    #27
    if brand new, any. second hand, vios

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    bro alam ko pareho sa gas and diesel masama idling, pero bakit mas masama sa diesel? thanks!

    More carbon deposits due to our diesel quality. Yes, even if fuel companies already have Euro 4 diesel here, it's still not up to par with more advanced countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    More carbon deposits due to our diesel quality. Yes, even if fuel companies already have Euro 4 diesel here, it's still not up to par with more advanced countries.
    The gasoline is still questionable, also, for some high-pressure direct injection gas engines... that's why Hyundai took five years to bring in the Veloster.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #30
    diesel na ako sabi mo nga lagi NLEX byahe mo.mas maganda sa long distance diesel engine.at sulit kapa sa kunsumo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    More carbon deposits due to our diesel quality. Yes, even if fuel companies already have Euro 4 diesel here, it's still not up to par with more advanced countries.
    Thanks!


    A bit OT: if priority is better NVH
    Altis
    Vios
    Accent

    And how far apart are they in terms of nvh?
    Thanks!

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    You should check what tires the casa provides stock. It has big effect on road noise. Assuming they have the same tires I think the vios would be just a bit more quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmetal View Post
    You should check what tires the casa provides stock. It has big effect on road noise. Assuming they have the same tires I think the vios would be just a bit more quiet.
    The Toyota brand is known for low NVH.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    The Toyota brand is known for low NVH.
    sir paano kapag nastuck sa traffic? people saying na hindi pede ma idle yung crdi engine for a long time what will happen to the engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinXYX View Post
    sir paano kapag nastuck sa traffic? people saying na hindi pede ma idle yung crdi engine for a long time what will happen to the engine?
    Just get the accent! Wala tayo magagawa sa traffic.
    Di naman masisira yan kapag na traffic ka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinXYX View Post
    sir paano kapag nastuck sa traffic? people saying na hindi pede ma idle yung crdi engine for a long time what will happen to the engine?
    man you worry too much. mamamatay kang maaga nyan kung lahat kinukunutan mo ng noo.

    simple lang naman ang solution sa engine na matagal nag-a-idle. italian tune up. e sa nlex naman lagi daan mo e di iharurot mo kahit 2 kilometro lang. drive it like you stole it, tanggal carbon deposits nyan.

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    #37
    The Vios costs 778k, while the Accent costs 848k, a difference of 70k. In mixed provincial driving, the Vios can do about 12 km/L, while the Accent can do 17 km/L (my experience is 12.5 and 17.5 when I travelled in convoy with my GF's dad's Accent).

    If you travel around 15,000 km per year, with the cost of diesel at 28 and gasoline at 40, you will have savings of 25k per year, allowing you to make up for the higher cost of the Accent in less than 3 years. If you travel more than 15k km per year, it will take even less time.

    Aside from fuel savings, the Accent is also much more powerful than the Vios. The Vios feels strained when overtaking with 4-5 passengers on board, while the Accent is an effortless pocket rocket.

    What I don't like about the Accent is its cheap interior compared to the Vios. I'm not a fan of its carbon fiber-like finishing, and prefer the black and silver treatment of the Vios. I've noticed that the Accent also bottoms out more easily when fully loaded compared to the Vios.

    And then there's also the comparison of Hyundai vs. Toyota. PMS costs are more expensive with Hyundai (even if you take into consideration the higher volume of oil required by the Accent). Warranty claims also seem to be more difficult - I have never had problems claiming warranty from Toyota, while many horror stories have been shared about Hyundai. Of course, if you have your maintenance outside of the dealership, these should not be a concern. I do think that for a first time car owner, it's better to have your car casa-maintained, at least for the duration of the warranty period.

    Lastly, the Vios will definitely have better resale value and greater parts availability in the long run. Many people don't consider this, but as I know first-hand the difficulty of maintaining a non-Toyota (I have a 2004 Mazda 3), I appreciate having cheap and available replacement parts.

    Overall, I still think the Accent is a better buy for you - more efficient, more powerful, more suited for highway driving. Good luck.☺

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    The Toyota brand is known for low NVH.
    Vios - Average
    Altis - one the best in it's segment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    Thanks!


    A bit OT: if priority is better NVH
    Altis
    Vios
    Accent

    And how far apart are they in terms of nvh?
    Thanks!

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    Malayo Altis sa Vios and Accent. Between the Vios and Accent I prefer the Vios' NVH though it's not really a deal-breaker vs. the Accent.

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    Toyota gets my vote, i borrowed my brother in law's vios for a few days, its compitent, btw, binanga pla ako ng patrol

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