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  1. Join Date
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    Hi po! Problem ko itong nabili kong vehicle, may nakalagay na "ENCUMBERED" sa COR, year 2002 pa at nakapangalan pa rin sa original owner. Walang deed of sale mula original buyer to 2nd buyer, pero merong DOS between 2nd and 3rd pero not notarized. Now, meron kaming DOS ng 3rd owner.

    1. Ano ba dapat kong gawin para sana maipangalan ko sa akin ang vehicle? Mahihirapan na akong hanapin pa ang original owner since 7 years ago pa yung date ng COR nya.
    2. Okay lang bang iparegister ko na lang yearly yung sasakyan at di ko na patanggal yung "Encumbered" sa COR? Medyo magastos at mahabang proseso pa kasi. Tutal wala naman akong balak ilabas ng EDSA ang sasakyan, pang-nearby lang kung baga.
    3. Ano ba disadvantage ng situation na ito sa akin? Ano pa po ba ang magiging problema ko kung sakali?

    First time ko lang kasi bumili ng vehicle, second hand pa, di ko na-check mabuti ang COR.....haaaay, lesson learned

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    Maveverify mo ba kung san naka loan yung car? Dapat di na yan encumberred pagkatapos mabayaran ng buo.

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    I think so po, ni-research ko yung lending company, may address sila sa Cubao. Usually ba, okay lang magverify sa kanila ng status nung sasakyan even if 7 years ago na? What if they find out na di pa pala bayad sa kanila, ako kaya ang pagbabayarin nila?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeiramor77 View Post
    I think so po, ni-research ko yung lending company, may address sila sa Cubao. Usually ba, okay lang magverify sa kanila ng status nung sasakyan even if 7 years ago na? What if they find out na di pa pala bayad sa kanila, ako kaya ang pagbabayarin nila?
    Wala namang problema kung tatanungin mo. Kung hindi fully paid yan, hindi irerelease ng lending firm and original na OR and CR. By the way, original ba ang kopya mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeiramor77 View Post
    Hi po! Problem ko itong nabili kong vehicle, may nakalagay na "ENCUMBERED" sa COR, year 2002 pa at nakapangalan pa rin sa original owner. Walang deed of sale mula original buyer to 2nd buyer, pero merong DOS between 2nd and 3rd pero not notarized. Now, meron kaming DOS ng 3rd owner.

    1. Ano ba dapat kong gawin para sana maipangalan ko sa akin ang vehicle? Mahihirapan na akong hanapin pa ang original owner since 7 years ago pa yung date ng COR nya.
    2. Okay lang bang iparegister ko na lang yearly yung sasakyan at di ko na patanggal yung "Encumbered" sa COR? Medyo magastos at mahabang proseso pa kasi. Tutal wala naman akong balak ilabas ng EDSA ang sasakyan, pang-nearby lang kung baga.
    3. Ano ba disadvantage ng situation na ito sa akin? Ano pa po ba ang magiging problema ko kung sakali?

    First time ko lang kasi bumili ng vehicle, second hand pa, di ko na-check mabuti ang COR.....haaaay, lesson learned
    Meron kang problema.

    Kelangan mo ma verify if tapos na ang ammortization ng unit. Pag full paid na ito, kelangan mong i-cancel ang chatel mortgage nito sa registry of deeds. Kelangan mo din ng deed of sale from the 1st owner to the person who sold you the unit. Pag wala ka nito hindi ma transfer ang ownership.

    Wala naman kaso if you don't transfer the ownership, kaso lang legally sa papeles hindi sa iyo ang auto dahil naka-register pa ito sa 1st owner. Ayusin mo na lang ang papers and hopefuly you learned a lesson na i-check ang papers before buying. Good luck.

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    hassle yan, ang dami ng owners ah....sana before mo binili nag check ka muna,a ng daming butas simulan nunn umpisa pa lang eh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mey0r View Post
    Wala namang problema kung tatanungin mo. Kung hindi fully paid yan, hindi irerelease ng lending firm and original na OR and CR. By the way, original ba ang kopya mo?
    Yes, original po yung copy ng COR. Original din yung OR registration galing sa LTO, naiparegister naman ito ng binilhan ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mey0r View Post
    Wala namang problema kung tatanungin mo. Kung hindi fully paid yan, hindi irerelease ng lending firm and original na OR and CR. By the way, original ba ang kopya mo?
    So you mean po ba, pag nagverify ko ng status sa Lending at kung sakaling di pa fully paid ay hindi nila ako hahabulin para ituloy ang payment? Gusto ko ngang tawagan yung lending firm eh, ang kinatatakot ko lang ay baka ako ang pagtuluyin ng payment, huhuhu naman yun...

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    naku po! medyo madugo yan, same din tayo ng problem dati sa second car ko. hahanapan ka nila ng xerox copy ng valid IDs ng first owner at second owner ng car. Kc dun sila magbae base ng valide signatures from the D.O.S. then the rest sundin mo yung advice ni "ans_lim168"

    goodluck bro

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    Its not that difficult to clear those kinks. time consuming nga lang.

    First off, kung hawak mo na orig CR, most likely tapos na bayaran loan niyan. So first step mo talaga is alamin kung bayad na ba o hindi pa. If not laki problem mo, technically "hot car" yan pero i doubt it.

    If bayad na, there is a thread here earlier ang problem ay di na din malocate ang original owner ( pls look for it ganoon dinkasi route mo). What you need is a certification na hindi na malocate ang original owner, and an affidavit of warranty for you to be able to transfer said vehicle to you. There is a legal remedy kung talagang walang problema ang ownership history ng unit.

    2. Okay lang bang iparegister ko na lang yearly yung sasakyan at di ko na patanggal yung "Encumbered" sa COR? Medyo magastos at mahabang proseso pa kasi. Tutal wala naman akong balak ilabas ng EDSA ang sasakyan, pang-nearby lang kung baga.
    kung gusto mo ganito na lang gawin mo para may peace of mind ka. verify mo kung fully paid na and verify mo din kung walang alarm na carnapped yan. Kung ok pareho, you can continue using the car and renew it as is. pwede mong gamitin kahit saan yan, walang gaanong magiging problema.

    3. Ano ba disadvantage ng situation na ito sa akin? Ano pa po ba ang magiging problema ko kung sakali?
    well kung clean ang papers, medyo nasa safe side ka na. Worst case scenario lang is kung bigla lumabas ang original owner and bigla i assert ownership niya. may chance na matalo ka dun.

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    Bro, yung CR na hawak ko ay original talaga, yun nga lang Encumbered pa daw. Nagtext naman ako sa LTO 2600, it says naman, "no LTO apprehension, has no LTO alarm". Will that be sufficient para malamang di sya " hot car"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khazpert View Post
    naku po! medyo madugo yan, same din tayo ng problem dati sa second car ko. hahanapan ka nila ng xerox copy ng valid IDs ng first owner at second owner ng car. Kc dun sila magbae base ng valide signatures from the D.O.S. then the rest sundin mo yung advice ni "ans_lim168"

    goodluck bro
    Sir, paano mo na-solve? Pwede malaman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeiramor77 View Post
    Sir, paano mo na-solve? Pwede malaman?
    Hingi ka sir ng clearance sa Camp Caringal, verify mo sa lending firm kung bayad na ng buo sa yung ammortization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeiramor77 View Post
    Bro, yung CR na hawak ko ay original talaga, yun nga lang Encumbered pa daw. Nagtext naman ako sa LTO 2600, it says naman, "no LTO apprehension, has no LTO alarm". Will that be sufficient para malamang di sya " hot car"?
    nope. LETAS aprehension lang ang clear diyan. kelangan mo TMG clearance para sigurado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeiramor77 View Post
    Bro, yung CR na hawak ko ay original talaga, yun nga lang Encumbered pa daw. Nagtext naman ako sa LTO 2600, it says naman, "no LTO apprehension, has no LTO alarm". Will that be sufficient para malamang di sya " hot car"?
    If original copy na ang hawak mo na CR next step is to cancel the chatel mortagae sa registry of deeds, then TMG clearance, plus you need a deed of sale and valid id of the 1st owner to the 2nd owner (plus valid id ng 2nd owner) then another deed of sale from 2nd owner to you plus your valid id, medyo complicated ito pero hopefully you will be able to transfer the unit to your name, I suggest you transfer the ownership to avoid future legal matters that may arise.

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    ^^^ Hindi puwedeng ipa-cancel yung encumbrance sa RD kung walang maipapakitang cancellation of mortgage/certificate of full payment from the financing company. Yung ibang RD kasi, medyo strikto sa ganyan (e.g. QC).

    Best option is to call muna the financing company, and inquire about the status of the car. Pero malamang, fully paid na talaga yan, hindi lang naayos ng original owner yung papeles (I work in a financing company din, and routine na sa amin yung ganyan, hehehe). Ask them to issue kahit certified true copy lang ng cancellation/cert. of full payment, then go to the RD and have them cancel the encumbrance.

    Di na mga switik ang QC RD ngayon. So long as you pay the authorized fees, kahit hindi mo na bigyan ng pampadulas, unlike before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeiramor77 View Post
    Sir, paano mo na-solve? Pwede malaman?

    wayback 2002,humingi ako ng advice from TMG Baguio City,sabi nila kuha daw ako ng confirmation copy ng OR/CR from Manila kc dun nakaregister yung car dati.after nun bumalik ako ng TMG Baguio to have a clearance...after that dumiresto na ako sa LTO Baguio,then after 1 hour I got na brandnew OR/CR sa name ko. luckily they dont ask me about the "Emcumbered" thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by khazpert View Post
    wayback 2002,humingi ako ng advice from TMG Baguio City,sabi nila kuha daw ako ng confirmation copy ng OR/CR from Manila kc dun nakaregister yung car dati.after nun bumalik ako ng TMG Baguio to have a clearance...after that dumiresto na ako sa LTO Baguio,then after 1 hour I got na brandnew OR/CR sa name ko. luckily they dont ask me about the "Emcumbered" thing...

    Nyak! masalimuot nga yan sir ano. buti tapos na, hehehe... Thank you very much for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    ^^^ Hindi puwedeng ipa-cancel yung encumbrance sa RD kung walang maipapakitang cancellation of mortgage/certificate of full payment from the financing company. Yung ibang RD kasi, medyo strikto sa ganyan (e.g. QC).

    Best option is to call muna the financing company, and inquire about the status of the car. Pero malamang, fully paid na talaga yan, hindi lang naayos ng original owner yung papeles (I work in a financing company din, and routine na sa amin yung ganyan, hehehe). Ask them to issue kahit certified true copy lang ng cancellation/cert. of full payment, then go to the RD and have them cancel the encumbrance.

    Di na mga switik ang QC RD ngayon. So long as you pay the authorized fees, kahit hindi mo na bigyan ng pampadulas, unlike before.
    Sir, I called the lending company, sabi nung nakausap ko ay sa dealer ko daw i-check about the status kasi nandun daw ang record, is that true? Eh diba sa knila nga naka-mortgage ang unit, nakalagay naman sa COR. Or baka medyo lazy lang hanapin ang records kasi 2002 pa yun eh. Basta as of now, ang hawak kong COR ay yung LTO form no.3 (encumbered). Medyo nabubuhayan din ako ng loob sa advice mo sir. Tanong ko lang, in case di na nababayaran ng owner ang amortization diba hinihila naman ang unit? Are there any instances na di bayad amortization and at the same time di nahihila ng dealer ang unit? Tulad nito sir, 7 years nang pagala-gala sa daan pero wala naman atang nagke-claim. What can you say po?

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    ^^^Dapat ang lending company ang makakasagot if full paid na ang unit, ibabalik ka din ng dealer sa lending firm if you follow their advice.

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