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**gargoyle30** · November 5th, 2011 01:49 AM

i'm planning to buy a used vios 2005 for 260k a/t transmission.
na-test drive ko yung car & it seems ok naman as compared sa existing civic 1997 vti ko.
this car kasi ang standard ko kapag nagcompare ng ibang car.

pero nung nakita ng friend ko yung engine, may tumatalsik daw na langis at usok kapag inalis yung oil cap.
maliliit na talsik ng oil yung pinakita niya sa palm ng hands niya. blowby daw ito kaya di ok sa kanya.

just to make sure, pinakita ko ito sa mechanic ng total. overall ok naman daw ang engine. huwag lang daw may uusok
sa likod kapag ibinirit ang makina & yung dipstick kapag inalis, dapat wala din makikita na smoke.

need your expert advice.....

**GTi** · November 5th, 2011 10:12 AM

260k for a Vios? 1.3E A/T ba yan? Sa price palang nakakaduda na ah at napakamura naman. Saan mo yan nakita? Kakilala mo ba yung nagbebenta? By your description parang laspag na o kaya na-Ondoy. Market price for a good condition 2003 Vios A/T is normally at around 300k and above. Take extra caution with this car, I'm smelling a rat...

The Civic EK is an excellent car, and its not something I'd compare to a Vios. Yung Vios kasi may electronic throttle so napakabilis tumaas ang revs even in the slightest prod of the throttle which gives the impression of lots of power, but which isn't really the case. A good condition EK Civic VTi, heck kahit pa LXi will definitely outrun a Vios 1.3E A/T. And it is rather cramped inside, don't you think? Not much headroom for everyone and rather limited legroom at the back.

**gargoyle30** · November 6th, 2011 11:45 PM

sir gti,

what can you say about doon sa tumatalsik na langis at usok pagtanggal ng oil cap. sign ba ito na may tama ang engine
or normal lang?

**GTi** · November 7th, 2011 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by gargoyle30

sir gti,

what can you say about doon sa tumatalsik na langis at usok pagtanggal ng oil cap. sign ba ito na may tama ang engine
or normal lang?

Well, kapag may tumatalsik, obviously something is not right with it. Lagi ba yan tumatalsik? Oh kapag mainit lang yung engine? You can check out the Vios threads in the Toyota section for more in depth info about this model. I would suggest you stay away from this one. Unless kakilala mo at presyong pangkaibigan o pangkamag-anak yan, there is definitely something wrong with it.

**gargoyle30** · November 8th, 2011 07:51 PM

sir gti,

regarding sa question mo...
lagi ba yan tumatalsik? Oh kapag mainit lang yung engine? -> mainit na engine before pa iopen yung oil cap kasi galing biyahe ang may-ari. after iopen, nakita na may talsik.

may nakausap ako regarding dito. normally daw kapag 1.6 li, may tumatalsik talaga. pero kapag mga 1.3 li, dapat ay wala.

kapag may nakita ba ako tumatalsik na langis after alisin ang oil cap, di na ba talaga ok ang car? meron din ako nakita, casa-maintained ang car pero may tumatalsik pa rin na langis.

what is your opinion about this?

**GTi** · November 8th, 2011 09:49 PM

Normally naman talaga kung mainit yung makina it is unwise to open the oil cap since there is the tendency na tatalsik ang langis sayo which would lead to very disastrous results on your part. May kilala na akong gumawa niyan sa AE92 Corolla (forgot if 1.3 o 1.6) at ang tindi ng burns niya. I'm not so sure if hindi talaga nangyayari yan sa small 1.3L engines. Best to ask a mechanic or better yet, a taxi driver for his first hand opinion. And then test drive mo rin in various conditions for any suspicious sounds, sights, or smells.

But seriously, I do not recommend you get that car. A last batch EK 2000 Civic VTi would probably be a much better car than this. Or if you're OK with downsizing, perhaps a 2003 City Type-Z VTi.

**rudy_corolla** · July 17th, 2017 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

260k for a Vios? 1.3E A/T ba yan? Sa price palang nakakaduda na ah at napakamura naman. Saan mo yan nakita? Kakilala mo ba yung nagbebenta? By your description parang laspag na o kaya na-Ondoy. Market price for a good condition 2003 Vios A/T is normally at around 300k and above. Take extra caution with this car, I'm smelling a rat...

The Civic EK is an excellent car, and its not something I'd compare to a Vios. Yung Vios kasi may electronic throttle so napakabilis tumaas ang revs even in the slightest prod of the throttle which gives the impression of lots of power, but which isn't really the case. A good condition EK Civic VTi, heck kahit pa LXi will definitely outrun a Vios 1.3E A/T. And it is rather cramped inside, don't you think? Not much headroom for everyone and rather limited legroom at the back.

wala pang a/t ang 1.3 vios nung 2005. kung a/t yan top of the line na 1.5G na vios. kung 2005 model yan medyo mahal pa nga ang price, kuha na lang ako ng altis

**ChunkyLover** · November 7th, 2011 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by gargoyle30

i'm planning to buy a used vios 2005 for 260k a/t transmission.
na-test drive ko yung car & it seems ok naman as compared sa existing civic 1997 vti ko.
this car kasi ang standard ko kapag nagcompare ng ibang car.

pero nung nakita ng friend ko yung engine, may tumatalsik daw na langis at usok kapag inalis yung oil cap.
maliliit na talsik ng oil yung pinakita niya sa palm ng hands niya. blowby daw ito kaya di ok sa kanya.

just to make sure, pinakita ko ito sa mechanic ng total. overall ok naman daw ang engine. huwag lang daw may uusok
sa likod kapag ibinirit ang makina & yung dipstick kapag inalis, dapat wala din makikita na smoke.

need your expert advice.....

for 260k... that sounds too good to be true...
always a catch