Best hatchback?

[bloowolf]

If i may, what's the pms cost of accent? Just for the benefit of all, yung mirage is around 10k per year (2 pms in one yr.). Kung hway fc, i would say na around 21kpl is attainable sa mirage. I used full tank method nung galing kami sa bolinao.

Iwan na natin si vios. Heheh. Unless may mga naka yaris dito.

Sa PMS:
Mirage every 10k. Accent every 5k
Mirage 10k OCI. Accent every 5k change oil filter + top up, every 10k full oil change
Mirage 3 liters oil. Accent 5.5 liters full oil change.

[jut703]

Just so you have an idea of the Vios' FC compared to the Accent hatch - last summer bumyahe kami Manila to Naga, convoy kami Vios 1.3 AT and Accent 1.6 CRDi MT. 3 yung sakay ng Accent, 5 sa Vios, parehong puno ng gamit.

The Vios got 13.1 km/L, yung Accent 16.7 km/L. Sabay lang takbo namin (convoy nga eh) so same traffic and road conditions.

Mas matipid talaga Accent CRDi sa Vios and ang layo pa ng power. Cheap lang talaga ng dating and lambot ng suspension.


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[glenn manikis]

Sa PMS:
Mirage every 10k. Accent every 5k
Mirage 10k OCI. Accent every 5k change oil filter + top up, every 10k full oil change
Mirage 3 liters oil. Accent 5.5 liters full oil change.

What about tune up?

Accent high pressure diesel every ilan kms. Ang cleaning Ng noozles? IMO 75k kms.?

Mirage tune up? Ilan kms. And how much?

[veyzonline]

Thanks po sa mga info. Sa ngayon iniisip ko kung ano ang mas-ok. Kung yung new Celerio ba or Mirage GLX, ok sana Accent kso hndi abot ng budget.

[chronicle]

What about tune up?

Accent high pressure diesel every ilan kms. Ang cleaning Ng noozles? IMO 75k kms.?

Mirage tune up? Ilan kms. And how much?

Mirage pms is every 6months or 10tkm. Ave 10k petot per year.

[StockEngine]

Thanks po sa mga info. Sa ngayon iniisip ko kung ano ang mas-ok. Kung yung new Celerio ba or Mirage GLX, ok sana Accent kso hndi abot ng budget.

Talo ka sa Hyundai maintenance. Mirage ka na lng kesa celerio. Mirage every 10k maintenance.

[glenn manikis]

YuNg ample power din dapat consider NATIN.. Ang hirap kaya gamitin ng sasakyan na hirap mag overtake...

How's the power of the mirage and picanto?

[Walter]

Ford Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0 is efficient until the DCT starts acting then it will be really expensive.

[chronicle]

Di parin ba tapos yang dct issue?

[glenn manikis]

Madami ba talagang nagka problemA sa dct na yan?

[bloowolf]

Talo ka sa Hyundai maintenance. Mirage ka na lng kesa celerio. Mirage every 10k maintenance.

Iba talaga ang diesel maintenance, di dahil Hyundai. Kung first time car owner ka, go for gasoline. Pag may experience ka na sa auto, try momna mag diesel

[StockEngine]

Iba talaga ang diesel maintenance, di dahil Hyundai. Kung first time car owner ka, go for gasoline. Pag may experience ka na sa auto, try momna mag diesel

Hyundai accent diesel maintenance is costly di lng nababanggit dito. Kahit naman matipid talo ka sa maintenance cost. The TS will be going for maintenance every 2 months because of 120km/day

6 times a year? Magkano per visit?

[glenn manikis]

Hyundai accent diesel maintenance is costly di lng nababanggit dito. Kahit naman matipid talo ka sa maintenance cost. The TS will be going for maintenance every 2 months because of 120km/day

6 times a year? Magkano per visit?

bro. thats a misconception... wala naman ganun maintenance ang diesel... lalo na ngayon modern diesels na... high pressure pumps na.

Got got 6 diesel vehicles, maliban sa change oil, ang regular lang na pinapalitan is the fuel filter and air filter every 25,000 kms.

and yung 2 old school diesels ko calibration or cleaning ng noozles... every 2 years... or 75,000 kms.

sa emission naman, naglagay ako dun sa isa ng provision para malinis ng water yung mufflers and exhuast pipe...

Improtante kasi sa diesel engine is to put GOOD QUALITY FUELS... yung ibang diesels kasi na binebenta sa de bote... mapapansin nyo mapula... IDO yung ganun... dapat automotive diesel oil ang gamit... like fuel sa big 3..

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Hyundai accent diesel maintenance is costly di lng nababanggit dito. Kahit naman matipid talo ka sa maintenance cost. The TS will be going for maintenance every 2 months because of 120km/day

6 times a year? Magkano per visit?

bro. thats a misconception... wala naman ganun maintenance ang diesel... lalo na ngayon modern diesels na... high pressure pumps na.

Got got 6 diesel vehicles, maliban sa change oil, ang regular lang na pinapalitan is the fuel filter and air filter every 25,000 kms.

and yung 2 old school diesels ko calibration or cleaning ng noozles... every 2 years... or 75,000 kms.

sa emission naman, naglagay ako dun sa isa ng provision para malinis ng water yung mufflers and exhuast pipe...

Improtante kasi sa diesel engine is to put GOOD QUALITY FUELS... yung ibang diesels kasi na binebenta sa de bote... mapapansin nyo mapula... IDO yung ganun... dapat automotive diesel oil ang gamit... like fuel sa big 3..

[StockEngine]

Nagbago na ba preventive maintenance requirement ng hyundai ph?

[glenn manikis]

Hyundai hindi ko alam.. Pero tama ka. Madugo nga daw? PmS ng Hyundai..

[jut703]

Improtante kasi sa diesel engine is to put GOOD QUALITY FUELS... yung ibang diesels kasi na binebenta sa de bote... mapapansin nyo mapula... IDO yung ganun... dapat automotive diesel oil ang gamit... like fuel sa big 3..

Wala namang private car owner na bumibili ng bote bote.

All diesel sold in gasoline stations (including generics) is ADO. Difference lang naman ng generic sa branded is yung additives which comprises less than 1% of the entire volume. Heck, some oil companies sell the exact same product to their wholesalers (who then supply to generics) as they do to their retail stations.

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[StockEngine]

Hyundai hindi ko alam.. Pero tama ka. Madugo nga daw? PmS ng Hyundai..

Madugo bro hahaha

[n_spinner06]

Just so you have an idea of the Vios' FC compared to the Accent hatch - last summer bumyahe kami Manila to Naga, convoy kami Vios 1.3 AT and Accent 1.6 CRDi MT. 3 yung sakay ng Accent, 5 sa Vios, parehong puno ng gamit.

The Vios got 13.1 km/L, yung Accent 16.7 km/L. Sabay lang takbo namin (convoy nga eh) so same traffic and road conditions.

Mas matipid talaga Accent CRDi sa Vios and ang layo pa ng power. Cheap lang talaga ng dating and lambot ng suspension.


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If we do the maths...
Consumo sa highway is roughly 1.25pesos per km more on the vios than the accent assuming 44pesos gas at 35 ang diesel...if the microcars (mirage/celerio/picanto/etc) can log 21km/l, they can match the cost per km of the accent at 16.7km/l at roughly 2.1pesos/km.

Now assuming the microcars just match the accent's 16.7km/l, the microcars would cost 50cents more for each km driven. The cheapest among the ones listed is the celerio at going at 542k...the accent hb at is 236k more at 778k. Now for just the initial cost, you will have to travel around 472,000km to break even. At 150km/day, 20days a month...that would be 13yrs! Just to break even! This is maintenance cost nonwithstanding and syempre assuming fuel price remains constant.

So kung cost of ownership over several years mukhang masmatipid pa microcars kahit matipid sa fuel si accent if under 10yrs lang which is most likely the case.

Anyway, it was mentioned na 650k limit, brand new, at hatchback...so i guess accent labas na sa choices...

Mirage/celerio/picanto/etc na lang...Initial cost at fuel consumption di na siguro nagkakalayo bet mirage and celerio. Picanto mamalakas ata sa gas iirc at masmahal siya ng 100k more than the celerio. Sagad sa 650k budget. Sa maintenance cost na lang magkakatalo dahil mukhang di naman particular sa porma. At yung laging advice ng mga guru na magtest drive...

[veyzonline]

Thanks guys for the info. Newbie palang kasi ako kya dami ko natututunan dito. Na decide ko na yung Mirage nalang ang kunin. Worth it ba kung mag GLS ako kesa GLX?. Ty

[jut703]

If we do the maths...
Consumo sa highway is roughly 1.25pesos per km more on the vios than the accent assuming 44pesos gas at 35 ang diesel...if the microcars (mirage/celerio/picanto/etc) can log 21km/l, they can match the cost per km of the accent at 16.7km/l at roughly 2.1pesos/km.

Now assuming the microcars just match the accent's 16.7km/l, the microcars would cost 50cents more for each km driven. The cheapest among the ones listed is the celerio at going at 542k...the accent hb at is 236k more at 778k. Now for just the initial cost, you will have to travel around 472,000km to break even. At 150km/day, 20days a month...that would be 13yrs! Just to break even! This is maintenance cost nonwithstanding and syempre assuming fuel price remains constant.

So kung cost of ownership over several years mukhang masmatipid pa microcars kahit matipid sa fuel si accent if under 10yrs lang which is most likely the case.

Anyway, it was mentioned na 650k limit, brand new, at hatchback...so i guess accent labas na sa choices...

Mirage/celerio/picanto/etc na lang...Initial cost at fuel consumption di na siguro nagkakalayo bet mirage and celerio. Picanto mamalakas ata sa gas iirc at masmahal siya ng 100k more than the celerio. Sagad sa 650k budget. Sa maintenance cost na lang magkakatalo dahil mukhang di naman particular sa porma. At yung laging advice ng mga guru na magtest drive...

Great computation - it puts into perspective the fact that at the end of the day, SRP still counts more than the FC and engine type if you're computing overall costs.

Yung iba kasi, basta daw diesel matipid. Lahat nalang ng sasakyan gusto diesel.


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