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    Considering na 1.3 ang vios 2016 pero dohc siya mas matulin ba ito sa cedia 3rd gen na 1.6 at mazda 2 2012 na 1.5 kasi both cedia ang mazda 2 is sohc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    Considering na 1.3 ang vios 2016 pero dohc siya mas matulin ba ito sa cedia 3rd gen na 1.6 at mazda 2 2012 na 1.5 kasi both cedia ang mazda 2 is sohc?
    Jest check out the power/torque and weight specifications of the 3 models you're looking at. The car with the higher power to weight ratio will provide performance.

    If you want a quick and fast car for the price of most subcompacts, get the Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost. It may only have 3 cylinders but it is turbocharged and direct-injected. The small 1.0L turbo engine produces power like most 1.6L NA engines and torque of 2.0L NA engines. Peak torque is already available at below 2k rpm when most small NA engines (1.2L - 1.6L) reaches their peak torque at over 4k rpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    Considering na 1.3 ang vios 2016 pero dohc siya mas matulin ba ito sa cedia 3rd gen na 1.6 at mazda 2 2012 na 1.5 kasi both cedia ang mazda 2 is sohc?

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    Mahirapan basehan sa ganon lang ang power ng isang engine. Best way is to see its dyno sheet, if it has one. Take note of how much power and torque is made at what rpm.

    DOHC is really nothing to write home about nowadays since it has almost become the norm already. Although there are still some SOHC holdouts, many of which are Hondas, and those are most definitely no slouch.

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    Then iconsider rin natin ung mga ibang factors except the driver.hehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    Then iconsider rin natin ung mga ibang factors except the driver.hehe


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    TS, disregard the driver if car A vs car B...we are not racing here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    Considering na 1.3 ang vios 2016 pero dohc siya mas matulin ba ito sa cedia 3rd gen na 1.6 at mazda 2 2012 na 1.5 kasi both cedia ang mazda 2 is sohc?

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    hard to say, basing just on paper specifications. there are other considerations:
    1. what engine did they build around those specifications? what fuel used?
    2. how much weight is the engine carrying (itself, powertrain, car body, wheels and tires).

    best thing to do, is to actually test-drive (test-race?) them.

    good luck in your quest for speed, sir.

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    Don't forget the transmission gearing. The 2006-2008 Sonata 3.3 V6 has 234 hp while the 2009-2010 V6 model has 249 hp. But, the older model has slightly quicker acceleration due to better gearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    Considering na 1.3 ang vios 2016 pero dohc siya mas matulin ba ito sa cedia 3rd gen na 1.6 at mazda 2 2012 na 1.5 kasi both cedia ang mazda 2 is sohc?

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    DOHC versus SOHC will tell you nothing about how much power an engine makes.

    The Jazz 1.5 is the most powerful non-turbo 1.5 in the class, but it's SOHC.

    But power alone will not tell you which car is fastest. The Mazda2, with its puny 105 hp, can hit 100 km/h just slightly slower than a Ford Fiesta EcoBoost.

    The fastest car is the fastest car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    Considering na 1.3 ang vios 2016 pero dohc siya mas matulin ba ito sa cedia 3rd gen na 1.6 at mazda 2 2012 na 1.5 kasi both cedia ang mazda 2 is sohc?

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    As what Niky said, DOHC vs SOHC doesn't matter.

    The Mazda 2 1.5 is easily faster than the Vios 1.3.

    The Cedia Lancer has a slow CVT that robs it a lot of power, so AT to AT, the Vios could be faster. With the MT, the raw power of the Lancer should overcome it.

    All I can say is from personal experience, the Vios does 0-100 in about 13 seconds, with a top speed of 175 kph. It can catch up on the highway with any 1.6L car and non-VGT PPVs, as long as driven properly.


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    *sedanlover - if performance (quickness) is a key requirement in your purchase, the Vios 1.3L models will not fit your needs. Look to the Fiesta Ecoboost or Mazda2 or Jazz if choosing from the subcompacts. Or you have more options if you look into the bigger compact cars (Civic, Focus, Mazda3, etc.)

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    *egan101 how about the performance of cedia? I prefer manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    *egan101 how about the performance of cedia? I prefer manual.
    Jut703 already gave you a summary of the performance summary of the Lancer Cedia CVT. Not sure though how much quicker the MT model is over the CVT model.

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    Is it safe then to assume that Jazz is the fastest/quickest vehicle under the 1 million pesos category?

    How about the diesel Accent? I've read somewhere here that this car is also considered fast due to its turbo charged engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie26 View Post
    Is it safe then to assume that Jazz is the fastest/quickest vehicle under the 1 million pesos category?

    How about the diesel Accent? I've read somewhere here that this car is also considered fast due to its turbo charged engine.
    The Jazz can't even break 10 seconds for a 0-100kmh sprint. The Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost can do it in just above 9 seconds with the Mazda2 1.5L SkyActiv trailing a few tenths of a second behind.

    Not sure how quick the new Accent CRDi can be with its new 7-speed DCT tranny.

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    A Vios 1.3 engine has only about 80+ horses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    A Vios 1.3 engine has only about 80+ horses.

    And using that to push a body weighing just over 1000kg???

    The previous gen Jazz with the lower trim 1.3L AT makes 100hp feels lethargic and slow to respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    And using that to push a body weighing just over 1000kg???
    Adequate enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Adequate enough for me.
    driven one a few times, ok naman, suspension is soft..para kang nasa crib..

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    The Vios is a good commuter car, same as the City. It offers good interior space, a big trunk, a soft ride, fuel efficient, and easy to maintain. More like a good household appliance, reliable and dependable.

    It appeals to most folks as it gets the job done, bringing you from point A to point B. However, for those longing for more responsiveness and feel in driving, it will not be appealing and more like boring.

    In my previous employer, we had a Vios and Altis to provide ferrying duties for our local pre-sales engagements. No complaints on my end as I'm merely a passenger on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedanlover View Post
    *egan101 how about the performance of cedia? I prefer manual.

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    Are you looking to buy a Cedia? I suppose compared to a 1.3 Vios, 110hp is still 110hp. The Vios most certainly has the low end torque as characteristic of Toyota engines which makes it lightfooted in city driving but the Cedia would still have the advantage on the highway.

    If you want the most performance for your buck, get the Accent CRDi. Rather poor in every other aspect but has a gem of an engine. Just make sure you get a well-maintained, private unit.



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