Based on engine's raw power

[jut703]

And using that to push a body weighing just over 1000kg???

The previous gen Jazz with the lower trim 1.3L AT makes 100hp feels lethargic and slow to respond.

With my Vios 1.3, I've kept pace with a 2.4L Vitara that had 160+ hp from 60-170 kph. Both cars flat out.

It was also easily quicker than a 108 hp Accent 1.4. Both cars flat out again.

And with typical NLEX traffic where you can't really maintain 160 kph for long stretches, it easily keeps up with any car under 250 hp. Enough overtaking power to take on the 2-lane traffic on NLEX. Better braking than any PPV too, so when it comes to weaving through highway traffic, I'd feel safer with a Vios.

The only time it loses on to more powerful cars is when you're on SCTEX/TPLEX where more powerful cars can really run consistently above 180 kph.


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[StockEngine]

Speedlab offers power packages...

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[MR_BIG18]

And using that to push a body weighing just over 1000kg???

The previous gen Jazz with the lower trim 1.3L AT makes 100hp feels lethargic and slow to respond.

i had a 1.5L jazz before, did 150-160 on it

[Jun aka Pekto]

With my Vios 1.3, I've kept pace with a 2.4L Vitara that had 160+ hp from 60-170 kph. Both cars flat out.

It was also easily quicker than a 108 hp Accent 1.4. Both cars flat out again.

And with typical NLEX traffic where you can't really maintain 160 kph for long stretches, it easily keeps up with any car under 250 hp. Enough overtaking power to take on the 2-lane traffic on NLEX. Better braking than any PPV too, so when it comes to weaving through highway traffic, I'd feel safer with a Vios.

The only time it loses on to more powerful cars is when you're on SCTEX/TPLEX where more powerful cars can really run consistently above 180 kph.


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Usually for short stretches, acceleration is more of what people look for. There's no way a Vios will keep up with say, a Forester XT. The latter may have to slow down because of traffic ahead, allowing the Vios to close the gap. But, that's more like catching up rather than keeping up.

[Egan101]

Speedlab offers power packages...

Why opt for such expense when you can just pay more to get the more powerful 1.5L model or a much quicker car?

[GTi]

So... If the 1.3 Vios can do all that, can the 1.5 Vios then do so much better?



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[jettp0gi]

Why opt for such expense when you can just pay more to get the more powerful 1.5L model or a much quicker car?

Kanya kanyang preference yan sir.

[lowslowbenz]

Bugbog na naman vios dito ... hahaha.

[jut703]

Usually for short stretches, acceleration is more of what people look for. There's no way a Vios will keep up with say, a Forester XT. The latter may have to slow down because of traffic ahead, allowing the Vios to close the gap. But, that's more like catching up rather than keeping up.

NLEX is nothing like your freeways in the US. Traffic isn't light enough for a Forester to pull away from a Vios. I have tried many times keeping up with more powerful cars simply because there isn't enough road to pull away before they have to brake.

Even on SCTEX, I have kept pace with a Range Rover Sport, plainly because there were other cars on the road. He was unable to overtake me from Tarlac all the way to Mabalacat The road freed up about 3km away from Mabalacat, so I topped out at 175 while the Range Rover overtook me.

However, in his eagerness to overtake, he missed the exit and I actually saw him make a full stop and back up all the way back to the off-ramp (which is dangerous). [emoji23]

Also, I noticed that most people with powerful cars just don't seem to bother with proper lane choices, which is why they end up behind slower cars driven by people more familiar with highway traffic.


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[jut703]

So... If the 1.3 Vios can do all that, can the 1.5 Vios then do so much better?



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Not really. On NLEX, I'm not any faster now that I have an Altis instead of a Vios. Like I have always said, highway driving is much more driver-limited than car-limited.

On SCTEX/TPLEX, a more powerful car will easily overtake and top out at a higher speed, but the road isn't usually that empty.

The biggest benefit of having a more powerful car is the effortlessness of the acceleration compared to a Vios. You'd have to redline a Vios to get the same 100-140 kph acceleration of an Accord V6 that's simply cruising in 6th gear.


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[MR_BIG18]

Not really. On NLEX, I'm not any faster now that I have an Altis instead of a Vios. Like I have always said, highway driving is much more driver-limited than car-limited.

On SCTEX/TPLEX, a more powerful car will easily overtake and top out at a higher speed, but the road isn't usually that empty.

The biggest benefit of having a more powerful car is the effortlessness of the acceleration compared to a Vios. You'd have to redline a Vios to get the same 100-140 kph acceleration of an Accord V6 that's simply cruising in 6th gear.


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even the other cars are the problem, when switching lanes, like in the fast /passing lane, theres a slow car taking wee ole time there...

[johncoder]

my gahd people doing resing resing in the expressway. it could cause lives you know. grow up! wag na magpataasan ng ihi. dun nalang sa race track! peace just venting out with the posts i'm reading

[MR_BIG18]

my gahd people doing resing resing in the expressway. it could cause lives you know. grow up! wag na magpataasan ng ihi. dun nalang sa race track! peace just venting out with the posts i'm reading

cool ka lang tay, overtaking someone doesnt mean theyre racing, so relax lang tay

[jut703]

my gahd people doing resing resing in the expressway. it could cause lives you know. grow up! wag na magpataasan ng ihi. dun nalang sa race track! peace just venting out with the posts i'm reading

I race on the track too so I don't feel the need to make pataas my ihi on the highway.

I don't drive on the highway to race people, I drive to get to work. Sometimes I feel like getting to work quickly, so I drive faster than others. But overtaking per se does not equate to racing, and wringing out the best performance from your car isn't racing either.


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[Egan101]

I don't drive on the highway to race people, I drive to get to work. Sometimes I feel like getting to work quickly, so I drive faster than others. But overtaking per se does not equate to racing, and wringing out the best performance from your car isn't racing either.

Same with me. Being stuck longer on the road can get really boring so might as well speed up a bit to make more time. As much as possible, I cruise at the speed limit. Sadly, there are a lot of slower cars on our expressways thus cruising at the speed limit makes you look like going really fast.

My speed here is even slower than when I was in the US. Most interstates post a 65mph speed limit and folks cruise at 5-10mph over the limit (except when I was driving in Wisconsin where doing over 70mph will surely get you a speeding ticket). There are some 75mph interstates (CA-NV-AZ) where most people cruise at 90mph. I have not gone to Texas with their new 85mph interstates so I guess there will be some folks cruising at 100mph already.

[GTi]

100 is pitifully low for our expressways. Even the 120 they supposedly allow in the northern expressways still makes me sleepy at times. 140 is perfectly fine at SCTEX and TPLEX. 160, would just be waking up...

People who are incapable of driving at freeway speeds and the cause of enforcing such speed limits should not be allowed a license in the first place.

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[dale323]

*egan101 how about the performance of cedia? I prefer manual.

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I own a Cedia MT while my wife has already used 3 generations of Vios 1.3. Power wise, lancer has the upper hand since it's torque and HP is higher than of vios. Fuel Efficiency, hands down sa first gen Vios, halos parehas lang ang konsumo ng Cedia at Gen 2 at mas matipid pa ang Cedia compared to gen 3. Comfort and seating position, I prefer Cedia. Libre nga ang gas ng Vios ni wifey pero pag long trip, Lancer ang gamit namin since mas comfortable kami dun.

To TS,

Ok naman ang Vios basta first Gen. other than that, Lancer na ang pipiliin ko.

HTH

[turbocharger 71]

I own a Cedia MT while my wife has already used 3 generations of Vios 1.3. Power wise, lancer has the upper hand since it's torque and HP is higher than of vios. Fuel Efficiency, hands down sa first gen Vios, halos parehas lang ang konsumo ng Cedia at Gen 2 at mas matipid pa ang Cedia compared to gen 3. Comfort and seating position, I prefer Cedia. Libre nga ang gas ng Vios ni wifey pero pag long trip, Lancer ang gamit namin since mas comfortable kami dun.

To TS,

Ok naman ang Vios basta first Gen. other than that, Lancer na ang pipiliin ko.

HTH

Seen so many lancer on second hand shop no one dare to buy buti ka pa naappreciate mo sya

[Sedanlover]

Seen so many lancer on second hand shop no one dare to buy buti ka pa naappreciate mo sya

We own lancer too. May bad na nangyari ba sayo sa lancer? Hehe

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[dr. d]

We own lancer too. May bad na nangyari ba sayo sa lancer? Hehe

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i used to have a 2003 lancer cvt.
it was a most comfortable drive, but not as responsive as the competition (the altis). i was always left behind when the green light flashed on. as jut above said, the cvt robbed the engine of its power.
and it guzzled gas. something like 6-7 km/li in the city.
but the passengers were the most comfortable, compared to the competition at that time. passenger space, ingress and egress were/are, in my opinion, the best at that time, and even with today's current competition.
also, in my opinion, the toys' buttons were better placed than the concurrent altis'. except for that terrible stock HU of the lancer.