Based on engine's raw power

**jut703** · October 18th, 2016 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

And using that to push a body weighing just over 1000kg???

The previous gen Jazz with the lower trim 1.3L AT makes 100hp feels lethargic and slow to respond.

With my Vios 1.3, I've kept pace with a 2.4L Vitara that had 160+ hp from 60-170 kph. Both cars flat out.

It was also easily quicker than a 108 hp Accent 1.4. Both cars flat out again.

And with typical NLEX traffic where you can't really maintain 160 kph for long stretches, it easily keeps up with any car under 250 hp. Enough overtaking power to take on the 2-lane traffic on NLEX. Better braking than any PPV too, so when it comes to weaving through highway traffic, I'd feel safer with a Vios.

The only time it loses on to more powerful cars is when you're on SCTEX/TPLEX where more powerful cars can really run consistently above 180 kph.

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**StockEngine** · October 18th, 2016 06:37 PM

Speedlab offers power packages...

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**MR_BIG18** · October 18th, 2016 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

And using that to push a body weighing just over 1000kg???

The previous gen Jazz with the lower trim 1.3L AT makes 100hp feels lethargic and slow to respond.

i had a 1.5L jazz before, did 150-160 on it

**Jun aka Pekto** · October 18th, 2016 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

With my Vios 1.3, I've kept pace with a 2.4L Vitara that had 160+ hp from 60-170 kph. Both cars flat out.

It was also easily quicker than a 108 hp Accent 1.4. Both cars flat out again.

And with typical NLEX traffic where you can't really maintain 160 kph for long stretches, it easily keeps up with any car under 250 hp. Enough overtaking power to take on the 2-lane traffic on NLEX. Better braking than any PPV too, so when it comes to weaving through highway traffic, I'd feel safer with a Vios.

The only time it loses on to more powerful cars is when you're on SCTEX/TPLEX where more powerful cars can really run consistently above 180 kph.

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Usually for short stretches, acceleration is more of what people look for. There's no way a Vios will keep up with say, a Forester XT. The latter may have to slow down because of traffic ahead, allowing the Vios to close the gap. But, that's more like catching up rather than keeping up.

**Egan101** · October 19th, 2016 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Speedlab offers power packages...

Why opt for such expense when you can just pay more to get the more powerful 1.5L model or a much quicker car?

**GTi** · October 19th, 2016 12:27 AM

So... If the 1.3 Vios can do all that, can the 1.5 Vios then do so much better?

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**jettp0gi** · October 19th, 2016 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Why opt for such expense when you can just pay more to get the more powerful 1.5L model or a much quicker car?

Kanya kanyang preference yan sir.

**lowslowbenz** · October 19th, 2016 01:37 PM

Bugbog na naman vios dito ... hahaha.

**jut703** · October 19th, 2016 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

Usually for short stretches, acceleration is more of what people look for. There's no way a Vios will keep up with say, a Forester XT. The latter may have to slow down because of traffic ahead, allowing the Vios to close the gap. But, that's more like catching up rather than keeping up.

NLEX is nothing like your freeways in the US. Traffic isn't light enough for a Forester to pull away from a Vios. I have tried many times keeping up with more powerful cars simply because there isn't enough road to pull away before they have to brake.

Even on SCTEX, I have kept pace with a Range Rover Sport, plainly because there were other cars on the road. He was unable to overtake me from Tarlac all the way to Mabalacat The road freed up about 3km away from Mabalacat, so I topped out at 175 while the Range Rover overtook me.

However, in his eagerness to overtake, he missed the exit and I actually saw him make a full stop and back up all the way back to the off-ramp (which is dangerous). [emoji23]

Also, I noticed that most people with powerful cars just don't seem to bother with proper lane choices, which is why they end up behind slower cars driven by people more familiar with highway traffic.

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**jut703** · October 19th, 2016 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

So... If the 1.3 Vios can do all that, can the 1.5 Vios then do so much better?

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Not really. On NLEX, I'm not any faster now that I have an Altis instead of a Vios. Like I have always said, highway driving is much more driver-limited than car-limited.

On SCTEX/TPLEX, a more powerful car will easily overtake and top out at a higher speed, but the road isn't usually that empty.

The biggest benefit of having a more powerful car is the effortlessness of the acceleration compared to a Vios. You'd have to redline a Vios to get the same 100-140 kph acceleration of an Accord V6 that's simply cruising in 6th gear.

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