big difference? 30watt and 50watt headunit

[winferrer]

stock radio honda..fujitsu ten ata toh...30watts...

going to buy pioneer hu na 50watts...

big difference ba? or ndi?

iniisip ko kasi if i'm going to buy speakers agad together w/ the new headunit.

or orig speakers muna w/ the new unit.

[meledson]

stock radio honda..fujitsu ten ata toh...30watts...

going to buy pioneer hu na 50watts...

big difference ba? or ndi?

iniisip ko kasi if i'm going to buy speakers agad together w/ the new headunit.

or orig speakers muna w/ the new unit.

Mas malakas lang ng konti. less than 3 db. Every 3 db means that the power is doubled (or halfed).

I am using stock HU (40W x 4 channels), I have upgraded my speakers first. Sulit naman. Gumanda ang quality at mas malakas. Kahit na wala akong sub, may konting boom na.

Kung limited budget ka, you can upgrade the speakers first din. 1 pair at a time.

Let us say, you upgraded your HU but stock speakers, di pa rin gaganda ang sound set up mo. Either speakers first, or speakers and HU.

[winferrer]

salamat ng sobra sir.
mapilitan unahin ang head unit, para sa aux in kasi. d ako kuntento sa fm modulator. ndi cd quality yung tunog eh. sayang ang ipod.

thanks again...

[1D4LV]

stock radio honda..fujitsu ten ata toh...30watts...

going to buy pioneer hu na 50watts...

big difference ba? or ndi?

iniisip ko kasi if i'm going to buy speakers agad together w/ the new headunit.

or orig speakers muna w/ the new unit.

if you say difference? what are you expecting? more ooomph? better sound quality? kasi kung more ooomhp, medyo wala masyadong difference yan. you can only put that up to Volume Level 30, kung hindi, basag na rin ang tunog nyan if you are using stock speakers.

for sound quality, it would depend on the speakers used, although may minimal difference din ang stock HU and aftermarket HUs.

kung ako ikaw? i will initially invest in good speakers muna and take it from there based on the sound output that i want. pwedeng you take the:

SQ mode: separates/excellent 6 x 9/tweets or
Power mode: amps/subs/tweets

initially, kaya yan ng stock HU mo. tsaka ka na lang bumili ng aftermarket HU kung hindi ka pa kuntento.

imho.

[winferrer]

wow..u changed my mind sir...
sige..will see and update you guys..

[meledson]

wow..u changed my mind sir...
sige..will see and update you guys..

When I upgraded mg stock speakers, I have checked the HU manual kung ano ang impedance na kaya nito at kung ilan ang power out. 4 to 6 ohms ang stock HU ko at 40W per channel.

Ibig sabihin nito ng I can use any speaker na 4 or 8 Ohms na at least 40W rms ang rating.

If eventually, gusto mo na gumamit ng amp, better use higher wattage speakers now kahit HU powered muna. Para you do not have to replace the speakers eventually.

Take a look at the RMS ratings not the peak power. misleading ang peak power.

Better kung maririnig mo na gumagana ang selection mo ng speakers bago ka bumili = audition.

Speakers have a sensitivity rating. If a speaker has a sensitivity rating of 89 dbm, while another has a rating of 92dbm, the 92 dbm will be louder. Theoretically 2 times (3db difference kasi) louder ang 92dbm. Assuming same impedance, wattage, size, 2way or 3-way.

BTW, I am now using bang-for-the-buck JBL.

[userfriendly]

Just remember that most HU over state their true output power. They may claim 50 watts RMS even if it only pumps out 12 watts RMS.

[winferrer]

that's good user...

how much sir ang jbl niyo?
how much do jbl seps cost nowadays?

[[archie]]

the main difference ng stock hu and aftermarket is the 50wX4 mosfet. yun ang kailangan mo for the SQ that your looking for. also the stock has the wired out while the aftermarket has the aux for sub and speakers.

yes, the SQ will improve if you change the speakers pero its not that much if you did not change the HU. the speakers always depend on the quality of the driver (HU) and how it is connected. the aux will give more clarity rather than the splice and twist.

[winferrer]

mukhang no choice...pag ipunan na lang..para one time big time nalang ..

[meledson]

that's good user...

how much sir ang jbl niyo?
how much do jbl seps cost nowadays?

GT5 co-axials at 2K
GT5 seps at 3K

[[archie]]

and one more thing, yes the claims of all HU are not real... 50w is not 50w, so what more with the 30w? the thing here is where can you peak the volume without distortion... the higher the volume that it wont distort the clearer the sound is at normal listening levels.

[daimaoh]

from what i know...

yung 50w mo is yung max pero your HU normally pumps out far lower than that.

i'm sure if you change your speakers (quality ones) sound would definitely improve.

but if you want your speakers to really sound good, better install an amp coz its supplies more power to your speakers.

from experience, had stock front speakers. tunog lata. installed a pair of 2nd hand 6" 100w rear speakers. sound is not too good kung rear lang. timpla lang ng front and rear ganda na tunog. but when i boost the volume dramatically, sumasabog na yung rear at may crackle na. i assume it just needs more power.

my HU is only 4x45w mosfet but it sounds good at moderate volume

[CVT]

If your level of satisfaction is the same as myself, then, there is a big difference shifting from 30W to 50W on the HU. You need not change the stock speakers and you will definitely notice and enjoy the significant difference in the way the speakers handle the boost in power.

Try it first with your stock speakers before you decide to upgrade them.

5909:burn:

[winferrer]

sir meledson and others..mukhang force head unit and speakers na lang...next question is...front seps muna or rear coax? impossible na ang hu, seps, and coax...i really have to pick this time...tight na budget.

[userfriendly]

HU then front spes last na rear coax. Ibang setups, walang rear coax. Bale front seps + subs and amps.

[meledson]

sir meledson and others..mukhang force head unit and speakers na lang...next question is...front seps muna or rear coax? impossible na ang hu, seps, and coax...i really have to pick this time...tight na budget.

Kung gusto mo na mag inprove ang sound quality, speakers muna. Kung very tight talaga ang budget, 1 pair at a time. kung kaya, 2 pairs.

kung sedan ang car mo, IMHO, rear muna. Kasi kadalasan, mas malaki ang surface area ng mga speakers sa rear - ovals (unless na door speakers din sa rear).

Iyong stock speakers ko, woofer lang na parang mid range, kulang sa base at walang high. now may base na at may high pa.

Iyon lang nga dahil HU powered, malakas lang pero di masyadong malakas. pag sinagad ang volume, basag na ang tunog.

IMHO, speakers first then HU or HU and speakers.

I am saving for sa sub/s, then for a HU.

[[archie]]

the rear coax is for the rear feel lang and does not really complete the sound. parang kung lagi ka may sakay sa likod then yes, lagyan mo.

parang its like this, if your going for SQ then staging is the key... when you go to a concert or movie, di ba gusto mo sa gitna ka kasi nandun yung feel ng surround sound? yung rear is there para lang sa may tunog kung may sakay ka sa likod. otherwise masasapawan lang yan ng subs mo. usually kasi sa rear 4 way 6X9 ang nakalagay to produce all the sound for the back seat passengers. otherwise it has no use.

its perfectly fine if you let the stock coax pump out sounds kasi ang focus mo is for you to have the staging effect (yung parang kaharap mo na yung singer).

edit: if you can get the seps and HU all together, then id say go for that muna. kahit full setup ka na (amp subs seps HU crossover) hindi mo kailangan ng quality rear coax. pero if your just going to stop with HU seps and rear.. then definitely, go for all the speakers.

[userfriendly]

the rear coax is for the rear feel lang and does not really complete the sound. parang kung lagi ka may sakay sa likod then yes, lagyan mo.

parang its like this, if your going for SQ then staging is the key... when you go to a concert or movie, di ba gusto mo sa gitna ka kasi nandun yung feel ng surround sound? yung rear is there para lang sa may tunog kung may sakay ka sa likod. otherwise masasapawan lang yan ng subs mo. usually kasi sa rear 4 way 6X9 ang nakalagay to produce all the sound for the back seat passengers. otherwise it has no use.

its perfectly fine if you let the stock coax pump out sounds kasi ang focus mo is for you to have the staging effect (yung parang kaharap mo na yung singer).

edit: if you can get the seps and HU all together, then id say go for that muna. kahit full setup ka na (amp subs seps HU crossover) hindi mo kailangan ng quality rear coax. pero if your just going to stop with HU seps and rear.. then definitely, go for all the speakers.

well put

[meledson]

the rear coax is for the rear feel lang and does not really complete the sound. parang kung lagi ka may sakay sa likod then yes, lagyan mo.

parang its like this, if your going for SQ then staging is the key... when you go to a concert or movie, di ba gusto mo sa gitna ka kasi nandun yung feel ng surround sound? yung rear is there para lang sa may tunog kung may sakay ka sa likod. otherwise masasapawan lang yan ng subs mo. usually kasi sa rear 4 way 6X9 ang nakalagay to produce all the sound for the back seat passengers. otherwise it has no use.

its perfectly fine if you let the stock coax pump out sounds kasi ang focus mo is for you to have the staging effect (yung parang kaharap mo na yung singer).

edit: if you can get the seps and HU all together, then id say go for that muna. kahit full setup ka na (amp subs seps HU crossover) hindi mo kailangan ng quality rear coax. pero if your just going to stop with HU seps and rear.. then definitely, go for all the speakers.

well put

TheTS is looking at either upgrading the stock HU or stock speakers on a limited budget. IMHO, to get better sound quality compared to stock is to upgrade the speakers first. If budget is very limited, a pair at a time. I ws suggesting to upgrade the rear ovals first, then the front door speakers.

Parang wala pa akong nabasa about a sub from the TS.