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    #1601
    Simon, what does your installer say? Most installers have preferences kasi when it comes to HU/DSP units because they'll often go to the one that they're familiar with or had a chance to tune extensively.

    If on a budget: call Jetcar Audio in Banawe, ask for Jimmy Chua, and ask is he has stocks of either the Firland or the Lightning Lab processor. I'm not fickle with DACs TBH, I'm fickle about tuning capabilities tho. That should give you a 30k processor (by capability) at a price tag lower than the Mosconi 6to8.

    The H800 and C800 combo is more expensive than the BitOne. I didn't know the BitOne is now at 50? It used to retail at 30-ish. You might want to check your sources for that. Out of all the processors, H800+C800 reigns at the top tier. It beats the BitOne and all other processors when it comes to technical powess.

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    Simon, what does your installer say? Most installers have preferences kasi when it comes to HU/DSP units because they'll often go to the one that they're familiar with or had a chance to tune extensively.

    If on a budget: call Jetcar Audio in Banawe, ask for Jimmy Chua, and ask is he has stocks of either the Firland or the Lightning Lab processor. I'm not fickle with DACs TBH, I'm fickle about tuning capabilities tho. That should give you a 30k processor (by capability) at a price tag lower than the Mosconi 6to8.

    The H800 and C800 combo is more expensive than the BitOne. I didn't know the BitOne is now at 50? It used to retail at 30-ish. You might want to check your sources for that. Out of all the processors, H800+C800 reigns at the top tier. It beats the BitOne and all other processors when it comes to technical powess.

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    #1602
    is it necessary to have a processor ? if naka 80prs ka na or p99 ?

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    #1603
    Actually im planning to have jc install he is actually suggesting to change the head unit kaso parang ayaw ko tlga hahaha

    he suggested the 6to8 thats why its in my list

    Saw in facebook a stock altis with the c800 and h800 combo which is why i started to think about it kaso the c800 will eat up space sa dash so medyo need to take it out

    So it seems that the 6 to 8 looks like a logical choice the firland kasi was an option kaso mahihirapan si installer dahil it doesnt flat out the hu source

    Im planning going one time big time para no more regrets hahaha

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    #1604
    Di na siguro unless super oc ka since super okayna tuning abilities nung headunit p80 for 2 way and p99 for 3 way

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    #1605
    Quote Originally Posted by simonzaide View Post
    Actually im planning to have jc install he is actually suggesting to change the head unit kaso parang ayaw ko tlga hahaha

    he suggested the 6to8 thats why its in my list

    Saw in facebook a stock altis with the c800 and h800 combo which is why i started to think about it kaso the c800 will eat up space sa dash so medyo need to take it out

    So it seems that the 6 to 8 looks like a logical choice the firland kasi was an option kaso mahihirapan si installer dahil it doesnt flat out the hu source

    Im planning going one time big time para no more regrets hahaha
    nice info boss simon on firland. i thought it was a direct copy of the 6to8. kung one time big time, c800 + h800 na nga sir. parang yung kay paolo/bignothing. can't go wrong with that set ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonzaide View Post
    Actually im planning to have jc install he is actually suggesting to change the head unit kaso parang ayaw ko tlga hahaha

    he suggested the 6to8 thats why its in my list

    Saw in facebook a stock altis with the c800 and h800 combo which is why i started to think about it kaso the c800 will eat up space sa dash so medyo need to take it out

    So it seems that the 6 to 8 looks like a logical choice the firland kasi was an option kaso mahihirapan si installer dahil it doesnt flat out the hu source

    Im planning going one time big time para no more regrets hahaha
    nice info boss simon on firland. i thought it was a direct copy of the 6to8. kung one time big time, c800 + h800 na nga sir. parang yung kay paolo/bignothing. can't go wrong with that set ;)

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    #1606
    Hi mga boss, ive bought a 1 din Bluetooth stereo sa US, ppkabit ko sana dito sa shops sa cavite, any idea magkano reasonable price na ibayad for installation? Thanks!

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    #1607
    is that for a Civic ES? It's pretty easy to unmount the HU from that car, so installation is pretty basic. Probably it should only cost around P500 for the installation.

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    #1608
    Medyo mabigat yung kay paolo naka d800 pa yun hehehhe

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    #1609
    yes *sientobente for Civic dimension ko kakabit, thanks sa info, hopefully 500 lang singilin or much better kung mas mura hehe

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    #1610
    Newbie ako mga sir.
    Balak ko po sana pa setup sounds ng ride ko, Toyota hi ace grandia gl 2015. Sa ngayon yung Saktong setup lang nde naman pang show. My budget 35-40k. Ask ko po Recommended n shop? Saka tips nrn po. First time kasi. Ty

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    #1611
    Quote Originally Posted by vidsidpo View Post
    Newbie ako mga sir.
    Balak ko po sana pa setup sounds ng ride ko, Toyota hi ace grandia gl 2015. Sa ngayon yung Saktong setup lang nde naman pang show. My budget 35-40k. Ask ko po Recommended n shop? Saka tips nrn po. First time kasi. Ty
    Mickeys autosound, simplesound, araneta car accessories.

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    #1612
    Gud pm...ano ba mga tell tale signs na sira na ang tweeter ko? Garalgal ang tunog? Pag power on may kalampag na tunog. Tia

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    Quote Originally Posted by acgq View Post
    Gud pm...ano ba mga tell tale signs na sira na ang tweeter ko? Garalgal ang tunog? Pag power on may kalampag na tunog. Tia
    Simply put, it sounds horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acgq View Post
    Gud pm...ano ba mga tell tale signs na sira na ang tweeter ko? Garalgal ang tunog? Pag power on may kalampag na tunog. Tia
    Simply put, it sounds horrible.

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    #1614
    Npakabit ko na ung HU nmin, for only 350, im so happy kasi bluetooth na mdali na magsoundtrip

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    #1615
    I bought the iphone app Speaker Pop and found out that all my aftermarket speaker setups have phasing errors. Naka-OC.

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    #1616
    Hi bros, noob here from cebu, need advice on my planned setup.

    Car is a toyota revo diesel, so kinda noisy.

    Current setup:
    hu - Pioneer deh-x4750BT (1 din)
    seps - Pioneer TS-A1305C speakers

    Planned setup 1:
    amp: rockford punch p600x4 - 20k
    sub: dls rw12 (2 ohms) will this match with the amp? - 7k with box

    Planned setup 2:
    amp: DLS CA51 5 channel amp - ?
    sub: dls rw12 (2 ohms) - 7k with box

    Notes/Questions/Advice needed:
    1. Budget is 40k max.
    2. Should I ditch my seps?
    3. Which is the better amp? Or any other recommended amp.
    4. I don't plan on upgrading it anymore.
    5. I'm more of an SQ person, I like the sound of the sennheiser HD650 headphones.
    6. Purely indoor listening only, I listen to rock mostly (Tool, Dream Theater, Lamb of God, RATM) but also appreciate some Sade, Sting, etc.
    7. 10 in or 12 in sub? Or any other sub recommendation?
    8. Discussed with an installer, 5k for deadening, 5k for wires & labor.
    9. Am I better off with a cheaper amp? <15k? Car is just a revo.
    10. Haven't heard of these in auditions, so I would most probably basing my decision on your input :D.

    Thanks much! :D

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    #1617
    If it's SQ you're looking for. Your priority will always be the head unit. Purchase a Pioneer 80PRS at its SRP of 16k then use the rest of the budget for constructing your system. Ideally, you should aim for 5-channels of amplification and 2-way speakers. If you can't get it all in one go, then feel free to skip the subwoofer for now.

    Alternatively, you can spend the budget on the system chain muna before splurging on the head unit. However, it's only when you have the necessary tools and features will car audio be considered "SQ". Until then, the only thing you can fiddle with is just tonality.

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    If it's SQ you're looking for. Your priority will always be the head unit. Purchase a Pioneer 80PRS at its SRP of 16k then use the rest of the budget for constructing your system. Ideally, you should aim for 5-channels of amplification and 2-way speakers. If you can't get it all in one go, then feel free to skip the subwoofer for now.

    Alternatively, you can spend the budget on the system chain muna before splurging on the head unit. However, it's only when you have the necessary tools and features will car audio be considered "SQ". Until then, the only thing you can fiddle with is just tonality - no imagining, no staging. As to what difference that makes? I had an Audeze LCD2 and Senn HD800 last year -- I eventually sold off the Audeze even if it excelled in out-of-the-box tonal. Why? Because the HD800's imaging and staging are just WOW that I can sacrifice the tonality (I haven't found the perfect "pair" yet) for those two.
    Last edited by jhnkvn; March 22nd, 2015 at 03:56 PM.

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    #1618
    Thanks for the advice sir jhnkvn.

    Basically the main reason I want to set up a decent system is to just drown out the diesel engine noise. So not really SQ, but just a decent sounding setup *40k.

    I'm thinking if I spend >40k, it would be kind of impractical since the car is just a revo (11 year old car). Maybe when I get a gas-fed car hopefully this year then I can splurge a bit.

    So no imaging or staging requirements, just tonality :D

    Do you think the rf punch 600x4 is too much for my seps (Pioneer TS-A1305C) ? Kinda mismatched on the price (20k amp vs 5k seps I think). My head is thinking "get <15k amp, get better seps".

    I really think a sub would really help a bit on my current setup now. So I would most probably go the amp + sub route.

    OT: Haven't heard the HD800 yet, must be pretty good. Have read pretty good reviews about it :D

    Thanks!

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    Thanks for the advice sir jhnkvn.

    Basically the main reason I want to set up a decent system is to just drown out the diesel engine noise. So not really SQ, but just a decent sounding setup *40k.

    I'm thinking if I spend >40k, it would be kind of impractical since the car is just a revo (11 year old car). Maybe when I get a gas-fed car hopefully this year then I can splurge a bit.

    So no imaging or staging requirements, just tonality :D

    Do you think the rf punch 600x4 is too much for my seps (Pioneer TS-A1305C) ? Kinda mismatched on the price (20k amp vs 5k seps I think). My head is thinking "get <15k amp, get better seps".

    I really think a sub would really help a bit on my current setup now. So I would most probably go the amp + sub route.

    OT: Haven't heard the HD800 yet, must be pretty good. Have read pretty good reviews about it :D

    Thanks!

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    #1619
    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.

    1. Personally, I believe in expensive amplifiers.
    2. Still, a 20 grand amp is a bit too much. Go for a 15 grand amplifier that has great power ratings instead and save the money instead.
    3. I am not picky when it comes to speakers really.
    4. For the subwoofers, I highly recommend JBL ones. They make excellent subwoofers for the price.
    5. As to what size, if you can fit a 12", then go for a 12". If you need the space, get a smaller one. Truth is, even 8-inchers is enough for most people.

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    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.

    1. Personally, I believe in expensive amplifiers.
    2. Still, a 20 grand amp is a bit too much. Go for a 15 grand amplifier that has great power ratings instead and save the money instead.
    3. I am not picky when it comes to speakers really.
    4. For the subwoofers, I highly recommend JBL ones. They make excellent subwoofers for the price.
    5. As to what size, if you can fit a 12", then go for a 12". If you need the space, get a smaller one. Truth is, even 8-inchers is enough for most people.

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    #1620
    Looking to replace the stock/oem speakers of our XV. No subs or any complicated set up. Just want to have a better sounding speakers that can be a perfect fit to the stock. Any recommendations? TIA

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