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    If it's SQ you're looking for. Your priority will always be the head unit. Purchase a Pioneer 80PRS at its SRP of 16k then use the rest of the budget for constructing your system. Ideally, you should aim for 5-channels of amplification and 2-way speakers. If you can't get it all in one go, then feel free to skip the subwoofer for now.

    Alternatively, you can spend the budget on the system chain muna before splurging on the head unit. However, it's only when you have the necessary tools and features will car audio be considered "SQ". Until then, the only thing you can fiddle with is just tonality.

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    If it's SQ you're looking for. Your priority will always be the head unit. Purchase a Pioneer 80PRS at its SRP of 16k then use the rest of the budget for constructing your system. Ideally, you should aim for 5-channels of amplification and 2-way speakers. If you can't get it all in one go, then feel free to skip the subwoofer for now.

    Alternatively, you can spend the budget on the system chain muna before splurging on the head unit. However, it's only when you have the necessary tools and features will car audio be considered "SQ". Until then, the only thing you can fiddle with is just tonality - no imagining, no staging. As to what difference that makes? I had an Audeze LCD2 and Senn HD800 last year -- I eventually sold off the Audeze even if it excelled in out-of-the-box tonal. Why? Because the HD800's imaging and staging are just WOW that I can sacrifice the tonality (I haven't found the perfect "pair" yet) for those two.
    Last edited by jhnkvn; March 22nd, 2015 at 03:56 PM.

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    Thanks for the advice sir jhnkvn.

    Basically the main reason I want to set up a decent system is to just drown out the diesel engine noise. So not really SQ, but just a decent sounding setup *40k.

    I'm thinking if I spend >40k, it would be kind of impractical since the car is just a revo (11 year old car). Maybe when I get a gas-fed car hopefully this year then I can splurge a bit.

    So no imaging or staging requirements, just tonality :D

    Do you think the rf punch 600x4 is too much for my seps (Pioneer TS-A1305C) ? Kinda mismatched on the price (20k amp vs 5k seps I think). My head is thinking "get <15k amp, get better seps".

    I really think a sub would really help a bit on my current setup now. So I would most probably go the amp + sub route.

    OT: Haven't heard the HD800 yet, must be pretty good. Have read pretty good reviews about it :D

    Thanks!

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    Thanks for the advice sir jhnkvn.

    Basically the main reason I want to set up a decent system is to just drown out the diesel engine noise. So not really SQ, but just a decent sounding setup *40k.

    I'm thinking if I spend >40k, it would be kind of impractical since the car is just a revo (11 year old car). Maybe when I get a gas-fed car hopefully this year then I can splurge a bit.

    So no imaging or staging requirements, just tonality :D

    Do you think the rf punch 600x4 is too much for my seps (Pioneer TS-A1305C) ? Kinda mismatched on the price (20k amp vs 5k seps I think). My head is thinking "get <15k amp, get better seps".

    I really think a sub would really help a bit on my current setup now. So I would most probably go the amp + sub route.

    OT: Haven't heard the HD800 yet, must be pretty good. Have read pretty good reviews about it :D

    Thanks!

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    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.

    1. Personally, I believe in expensive amplifiers.
    2. Still, a 20 grand amp is a bit too much. Go for a 15 grand amplifier that has great power ratings instead and save the money instead.
    3. I am not picky when it comes to speakers really.
    4. For the subwoofers, I highly recommend JBL ones. They make excellent subwoofers for the price.
    5. As to what size, if you can fit a 12", then go for a 12". If you need the space, get a smaller one. Truth is, even 8-inchers is enough for most people.

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    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.

    1. Personally, I believe in expensive amplifiers.
    2. Still, a 20 grand amp is a bit too much. Go for a 15 grand amplifier that has great power ratings instead and save the money instead.
    3. I am not picky when it comes to speakers really.
    4. For the subwoofers, I highly recommend JBL ones. They make excellent subwoofers for the price.
    5. As to what size, if you can fit a 12", then go for a 12". If you need the space, get a smaller one. Truth is, even 8-inchers is enough for most people.

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    Looking to replace the stock/oem speakers of our XV. No subs or any complicated set up. Just want to have a better sounding speakers that can be a perfect fit to the stock. Any recommendations? TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by macxchange View Post
    Looking to replace the stock/oem speakers of our XV. No subs or any complicated set up. Just want to have a better sounding speakers that can be a perfect fit to the stock. Any recommendations? TIA
    Get a 2-way separates speaker component with 6.5" diameter. You're good to go.

    What speakers? Well, I'm not particularly fussy on any brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Get a 2-way separates speaker component with 6.5" diameter. You're good to go.

    What speakers? Well, I'm not particularly fussy on any brand.
    I also want a simple sound setup for a Suzuki Swift. Currently considering Pioneer 5750bt or 2750bt for the HU. As for the speakers, no idea as of now. Any model/brand that you can recommended? Is a 6.5" speaker enough to deliver good bass? I'm not after earth shaking bass, just enough for closed window listening. Do i still need deadening? I really appreciate any input. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brf View Post
    I also want a simple sound setup for a Suzuki Swift. Currently considering Pioneer 5750bt or 2750bt for the HU. As for the speakers, no idea as of now. Any model/brand that you can recommended? Is a 6.5" speaker enough to deliver good bass? I'm not after earth shaking bass, just enough for closed window listening. Do i still need deadening? I really appreciate any input. Thanks!
    Got 6inch teac seps for my front doors, paired it with pioneer 6x9s for the bass on the rear deck, all powered by my HU. So far very satisfied with the setup, the teac seps reproduces cymbals and vocals very well while the pioneers produce that punchy bass I'm looking for. Spent less than 5k for this setup, and prefer it over the 4 channel amp+sub combo I have in my other car.



    I recommend the deadening to reduce the rattles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brf View Post
    I also want a simple sound setup for a Suzuki Swift. Currently considering Pioneer 5750bt or 2750bt for the HU. As for the speakers, no idea as of now. Any model/brand that you can recommended? Is a 6.5" speaker enough to deliver good bass? I'm not after earth shaking bass, just enough for closed window listening. Do i still need deadening? I really appreciate any input. Thanks!
    Got 6inch teac seps for my front doors, paired it with pioneer 6x9s for the bass on the rear deck, all powered by my HU. So far very satisfied with the setup, the teac seps reproduces cymbals and vocals very well while the pioneers produce that punchy bass I'm looking for. Spent less than 5k for this setup, and prefer it over the 4 channel amp+sub combo I have in my other car.



    I recommend the deadening to reduce the rattles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.
    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.

    1. Personally, I believe in expensive amplifiers.
    2. Still, a 20 grand amp is a bit too much. Go for a 15 grand amplifier that has great power ratings instead and save the money instead.
    3. I am not picky when it comes to speakers really.
    4. For the subwoofers, I highly recommend JBL ones. They make excellent subwoofers for the price.
    5. As to what size, if you can fit a 12", then go for a 12". If you need the space, get a smaller one. Truth is, even 8-inchers is enough for most people.
    Thanks for the sound advice :D Will report back when I've discussed more with the installer on the final setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.
    Oh, in that case, go for the system chain first.

    1. Personally, I believe in expensive amplifiers.
    2. Still, a 20 grand amp is a bit too much. Go for a 15 grand amplifier that has great power ratings instead and save the money instead.
    3. I am not picky when it comes to speakers really.
    4. For the subwoofers, I highly recommend JBL ones. They make excellent subwoofers for the price.
    5. As to what size, if you can fit a 12", then go for a 12". If you need the space, get a smaller one. Truth is, even 8-inchers is enough for most people.
    Thanks for the sound advice :D Will report back when I've discussed more with the installer on the final setup.

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