audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[jhnkvn]

Pioneer 80prs
Focal 165as or Hertz HSK 165.4 [ for the same price, I might settle with focal ]
JBL GT1040 with

I might switch to Gladen actually. medyo malaki rin difference..
M line 75.4 and M line 100.2

dilema ko naman ngayon is kung malaki difference ni 290w vs 220w for running my SUB which is 350w required RMS.
medyo mabayo kasi trip ko pag ka EDM's , mas mataas kasi relase value ng 4 channel kaysa 2 channel (though di ko naman kailangan isipin to hehe.)

Not a big difference. I wouldn't sweat it. If you can increase the box size, that'll help tremendously in efficiency rather than piping more power to it.

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I'm not particular regarding speaker-amp pairing. Especially not in a car environment where everything bounces around. Now if this was a headphone-amplifier pairing, pwede ka pa maging picky since headphones sit millimeters away from your ears. Speakers, on the other hand, interact with the environment first before hitting your ears. That's why room treatment is top priority in home audio over equipments.

[kazer]

*jhnkvn thanks bro for the nice comments...


hayzzzz! somehow minsan nakaka inis! Its like I'm being forced to take a Hertz esk 165 + hertz HCP5 (5 channel amps!) over a focal 165as + 2 gladen amps combo!

which the hertz actually costs way more than the budget already! considering that the initial budgets was only 30k! but now its doubled!
(BTW , this is not mickey, baka lang may mag assume since based on my previous post siya ang iniisip kong installer... )

[acgq]

Nag adjust ako ng gain using a muti meter. 75% hu vol. V= square root of amp rms multiply to impedance. I got 28.8v. Used 60hz sine test tone. Ito iniisip ko ngayon, na maxed out ko na ang gain 20.2v lang ang lumabas. Kailangan ko pa mag boost para umabot sa 28.8. Di kaya masira ang amp? Tia

[sientobente]

You're thinking of big-ass capacitors kasi

The capacitor in-line with tweeter is kinda like this photo (http://www.pispeakers.com/DIY/DX25_Cable_Connected.jpg) take note that this has a capacitor AND a resistor.

A capacitor is simply used to protect the tweeter because it acts like a filter depending on which micro-farad value you put in.

hehe yeah, thought it was these capacitors

[barurut]

great! who is your installer by the way?

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great! who is your installer by the way?

Sun-x boss

[barurut]

As per Mundorf's website:
Capacitor (capital C) stores electricity.
capacitor (small case c) is a frequency dependent resistors


A useful link for choosing the value of capacitor to use for tweeters:
Car Audio - Speaker Crossover Chart and Capacitance vs. Frequency Calculator(High-pass)

[sientobente]

Sun-x boss

Cool! I used to have Sun-X do my setup way back in 2005.

[jhnkvn]

*jhnkvn thanks bro for the nice comments...


hayzzzz! somehow minsan nakaka inis! Its like I'm being forced to take a Hertz esk 165 + hertz HCP5 (5 channel amps!) over a focal 165as + 2 gladen amps combo!

which the hertz actually costs way more than the budget already! considering that the initial budgets was only 30k! but now its doubled!
(BTW , this is not mickey, baka lang may mag assume since based on my previous post siya ang iniisip kong installer... )

Oh, that's okay. Overbudgeting is kinda the norm in our line of hobby it applies to any hobby actually.

[sientobente]

True. It is better to get the best one you can afford now rather than change your mind and upgrade later. It will be more costly that way.

[kazer]

nakaka adict kasi makadinig ng magandang tono na auto. lalo na nu na dinig ko yung pag kaka iba ng time aligned at hindi na sistema!

after ko marinig sabi ko na lang sa sarili ko.. eto na nga... 1 time big time na! lets go for broke! este for gold pala...

based on other hobby kasi mas magastos pag tinipid. na subok hehe


btw.. settled with focal+ gladen combo.

[sientobente]

pa-audition boss pagnatapos yung setup ;)

[acgq]

Anyone tried plastidip as a deadener?

[ralphs]

i just grabbed a focal polyglass v2 27 subwoofer. ano po ba mono ampli ang maganda dito?

[jhnkvn]

Anyone tried plastidip as a deadener?

It won't work. Physics is against you for one. You need density in order to actually block a certain frequency wavelength. Bass wavelengths? Think 1/2 meters of concrete.

[ninjababez]

It won't work. Physics is against you for one. You need density in order to actually block a certain frequency wavelength. Bass wavelengths? Think 1/2 meters of concrete.

im curious where he (acgq) got that idea.

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It won't work. Physics is against you for one. You need density in order to actually block a certain frequency wavelength. Bass wavelengths? Think 1/2 meters of concrete.

im curious where he (acgq) got that idea.

[acgq]

From the plastidip can. It says there that it can be used to insulate and to deaden.

[sientobente]

It will take a lot of plastidip cans to deaden a door. Because the goal in deadening is to increase the mass of the door/enclosure to make it rigid and free from unwanted resonance.

[jhnkvn]

A better application is to simply try minimizing the area or partially sealing off "leaky" areas.

The concept of sound-proofing is easy. Think of your car as a bubble that is insulating you from outside noise. The more holes there are, the more noise there is. On why the likes of German car manufacturers like Benz and BMW can make their car so quiet (compared to, let's say, a Kia Pride) is their attention to detail in trying to seal the car interior as much as possible from the outside. The likes of Lexus use double-paned glass for example. For Mercedes, this sometimes means using rubber grommets as much as possible to keep noise out as well as thickening some parts of the chassis.

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A better application is to simply try minimizing the area or partially sealing off "leaky" areas.

The concept of sound-proofing is easy. Think of your car as a bubble that is insulating you from outside noise. The more holes there are, the more noise there is. On why the likes of German car manufacturers like Benz and BMW can make their car so quiet (compared to, let's say, a Kia Pride) is their attention to detail in trying to seal the car interior as much as possible from the outside. The likes of Lexus use double-paned glass for example. For Mercedes, this sometimes means using rubber grommets as much as possible to keep noise out as well as thickening some parts of the chassis.

[sientobente]

nakaka adict kasi makadinig ng magandang tono na auto. lalo na nu na dinig ko yung pag kaka iba ng time aligned at hindi na sistema!

after ko marinig sabi ko na lang sa sarili ko.. eto na nga... 1 time big time na! lets go for broke! este for gold pala...

based on other hobby kasi mas magastos pag tinipid. na subok hehe


btw.. settled with focal+ gladen combo.

chief, may i ask, sa simplesound ba kayo nagpakabit? i saw a post with the exact set you planned to install on your system. if it is, padinig!

[riccomina]

What is the advantage and disadvantage of using a line converter to connect a active sub to a stock HU that does not have a sub out?