Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

**red_one** · September 1st, 2014 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by vince2929

Yun nga sir eh, medyo kita na yung swirls kapag na tapat sa araw. Dalawang pasada ng sabon na nga ginagawa ko ganun parin. Sign na talaga para mag clay, kaso sa tatay ko tong sasakyan eh

hindi maarte sa sasakyan. Nagrereklamo na nga eh, ang rami daw ng kung ano ano ko

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So ok lang ba kahit i KAIO ko nalang, hindi na clay. tapos nanoglos muna, next time na ulit KSG? Sana nga kapag nakita nya yung sasakyan after KAIO, aarte na din sya sa linis ng sasakyan hahaha

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Washing will not remove swirls, even if you do it multiple times. Swirls can only be removed by polishing (e.g. KAIO) which have abrasive components. It will remove some paint (clear coat). If you do not want to remove paint, you can hide swirls by filling and sealing the surface (e.g. NanoFiL and/or NanoSiL). After which, you can apply the sealant/wax (e.g. KSG).

For real show car finish, you need to clay the car before applying KAIO.

Klasse All-In-One Hand Application

1. Before you apply, wash and dry. Your vehicle should have any surface contaminants removed, and be towel dried for optimum product effectiveness. Buffing a wet area will cause unsightly streaks. If you still notice any rough spots on your vehicle, using a clay bar to remove the deeply embedded contaminants will make a phenomenal difference when you apply the Klasse All-In-One. The preparation is definitely worth it in the long run.

**vince2929** · September 1st, 2014 10:24 AM

I mean sir, yung kapag nagbubuff off na ako ng wax, nangingitim parin yung cloth kahit dalawang pasada na ng sabon ginawa ko.

EDIT: http://www.premierdetailnpolish.com/faqs/

FAQs tungkol sa KAIO para hindi naman mapagod yung sumasagot hehe. Nakita ko lang habang nagreresearch.

**red_one** · September 1st, 2014 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by vince2929

I mean sir, yung kapag nagbubuff off na ako ng wax, nangingitim parin yung cloth kahit dalawang pasada na ng sabon ginawa ko.

Not sure what you mean. Are you removing the old wax (Stage 2) or buffing off the new wax (LSP)?

**vince2929** · September 1st, 2014 12:45 PM

Buffing off ng new wax sir. Diba sabi nyo hindi siguro maganda ang pagkawash kaya nagiging black yung cloth ko kapag nag buff off na ko ng bagong wax. Kahit dalawang ulit ko naman sir sinasabon yung sasakyan kaso ganun parin ang nangyayari. Nag aapply lang po ako lagi ng wax na bago, hindi ko pa nasusubukan mag tanggal ng dating wax.

Sir, tanong ko lang, ano mas preferred nyo? KAIO+Collinite 845 o KAIO+KSG? Halos same price lang kasi sila eh. Mga nakikita ko sa ibang forum KAIO->KSG->Collinite 845 kahit parehong LSP yung KSG saka collinite, tapos 2 layers daw ang KSG para maganda ang shine.

**red_one** · September 1st, 2014 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by vince2929

Buffing off ng new wax sir. Diba sabi nyo hindi siguro maganda ang pagkawash kaya nagiging black yung cloth ko kapag nag buff off na ko ng bagong wax. Kahit dalawang ulit ko naman sir sinasabon yung sasakyan kaso ganun parin ang nangyayari. Nag aapply lang po ako lagi ng wax na bago, hindi ko pa nasusubukan mag tanggal ng dating wax.

Sir, tanong ko lang, ano mas preferred nyo? KAIO+Collinite 845 o KAIO+KSG? Halos same price lang kasi sila eh. Mga nakikita ko sa ibang forum KAIO->KSG->Collinite 845 kahit parehong LSP yung KSG saka collinite, tapos 2 layers daw ang KSG para maganda ang shine.

I haven't tried Klasse and Collinite yet. I am using Meguiar's UP + UW. According to the link you posted, the recommended combo is either KAIO+KSG or KAIO+Collinite 845. KAIO is a pre-wax cleaner + sealant pala, not a polish. It will strip the old wax and make swirls less visible (but the swirls are still there). You can also use it alone as LSP.

**kelz** · September 1st, 2014 03:54 PM

Hi guys. Are there good dual action polishers available in our local hardware stores? I've seen a Porter cable 7424xp and Griots Garagr Polishers being sold online. The caveat is that both are 110v. I wouldn't want to bother with a transformer though. I prefer 220v.

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**monty_GTV** · September 1st, 2014 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by vince2929

Buffing off ng new wax sir. Diba sabi nyo hindi siguro maganda ang pagkawash kaya nagiging black yung cloth ko kapag nag buff off na ko ng bagong wax. Kahit dalawang ulit ko naman sir sinasabon yung sasakyan kaso ganun parin ang nangyayari. Nag aapply lang po ako lagi ng wax na bago, hindi ko pa nasusubukan mag tanggal ng dating wax.

Sir, tanong ko lang, ano mas preferred nyo? KAIO+Collinite 845 o KAIO+KSG? Halos same price lang kasi sila eh. Mga nakikita ko sa ibang forum KAIO->KSG->Collinite 845 kahit parehong LSP yung KSG saka collinite, tapos 2 layers daw ang KSG para maganda ang shine.

i'm surprised na kahit twice mo na hugasan ay nangingitim pa rin pamunas mo?

as red_one and i mentioned, wala na dapat dumi sa buffing cloth during waxing stage. else kung may dumi, indication na nag-aapply ka ng wax na madumi pa ang paint surface mo. kwestiyon is paano ka ba maghugas ng sasakyan mo sir? (read about 2 bucktes method sa "tamang OC thread") instead of using sabon, try using car shampoos like microtex wash and wax, you can either use wash mitts or foams. after washing, dry it using microfiber towels or chamois. after washing, wala na rin dapat dumi yung paint surface. kaya nakakapagtaka na during waxing nangingitim pa rin pamunas mo

**vince2929** · September 1st, 2014 08:40 PM

Sir ganun talaga eh

. Pero kapag mga 1 week ang pagitan ng paglalagay ng wax, tapos hindi naman gaano nagamit, konti lang yung pangingitim. Parang nanggagaling ata yun sir sa natuyong ulan, medyo lawit kasi yung nguso ng sasakyan kaya natatamaan. Lagi kong winawax yung hood after wash, yung iba every 3 washes.

Microtex wash and wax gamit ko sir, tapos washmitt. Rubber chamois gamit ko pang dry, nanoglos para sa wax tapos microtex plush cloth for buffing. Sinusunod ko rin sir "yung tamang OC" method. Wala bang sachet lang ng KAIO para masubukan lang?

medyo matagal naman interval bago maglagay ulit. Makasubok lang talaga ako, tapos pakita ko sa tatay ko, baka bumilib tapos go na ako sa ibang products lol.

**joey_ed27** · September 1st, 2014 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by kelz

Hi guys. Are there good dual action polishers available in our local hardware stores? I've seen a Porter cable 7424xp and Griots Garagr Polishers being sold online. The caveat is that both are 110v. I wouldn't want to bother with a transformer though. I prefer 220v.

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Up for this. I have the same concern. Actually went to Ace hardware SM Mla earlier pero wala sila.

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**red_one** · September 2nd, 2014 09:26 AM

You can look for DAS5-PRO DA Polisher * P7,500 in OLX. 220V, 6-speed. 1,500 - 6,800 OPM.

According to Ginnova, this is also sold under Waxedshine DA9000W model, just different color. DAS5-PRO is blue. DA9000W is green. You can compare product photos below and OLX.

DA9000W Dual Action Polisher Complete kit - Waxed Shine