Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

[s10pao]

i'm using collinite 915 for the rainy season andali noticed that it doesnot prevent watermarks from forming on the roof and hood. i even applied nano slick after 12 hours to double the protection but still, watermarks are left on the hood and roof after raindroplets dryout. ano ba magaling than collinite 915 na LSD/wax that prevents watermarks (that is available locally)?

wala naman atang product kayang gawin ung gusto mo. ang mahalaga ay hindi permanent ung watermarks, after 1 carwash tanggal agad.

[ronmayajoan]

mga Sir good day po. Im about to do my first detailing sa bnew car ko & im just waiting for my orders to arrive bago mag start. Please advice po kung tama ang setup na gagawin ko;

1. Wash (using Megs Wash & wax shampoo)
2. Claying (i think hindi muna, car is 1 week old)
3. Apply Paint Sealant - i dont have Klasse twins kaya ang gagamitin ko po is either MEG NXT tech wax 2.0 or MEG 21 Synthetic sealant (according to MEG website, they are both Paint sealant) any suggestion po for the sealant? yung available lang po sa market.
4. Apply Collinite 845
5. Apply carnauba paste wax to amp up the shine and to add protection (necessary po ba ito & may maganda outcome kung gagawin ko or walang masyadong difference kung ihuli ko na yung Collinite?
6. Apply Optimum Gloss Enhancer

in between car washes i plan to apply nalang MEGS Ultimate Quick Wax then MEGS QD or Nanosliq.

Pa advise naman po bago ko simulan. Thanks!

[monty_GTV]

mga Sir good day po. Im about to do my first detailing sa bnew car ko & im just waiting for my orders to arrive bago mag start. Please advice po kung tama ang setup na gagawin ko;

1. Wash (using Megs Wash & wax shampoo)
2. Claying (i think hindi muna, car is 1 week old)
3. Apply Paint Sealant - i dont have Klasse twins kaya ang gagamitin ko po is either MEG NXT tech wax 2.0 or MEG 21 Synthetic sealant (according to MEG website, they are both Paint sealant) any suggestion po for the sealant? yung available lang po sa market.
4. Apply Collinite 845
5. Apply carnauba paste wax to amp up the shine and to add protection (necessary po ba ito & may maganda outcome kung gagawin ko or walang masyadong difference kung ihuli ko na yung Collinite?
6. Apply Optimum Gloss Enhancer

in between car washes i plan to apply nalang MEGS Ultimate Quick Wax then MEGS QD or Nanosliq.

Pa advise naman po bago ko simulan. Thanks!

wash and wipe dry. apply very thinly the sealant, let it haze then wipe off. let it cure for about 4 hrs to let the sealant bond with the paint. then topped it with collinite 845 and buff to shine. in between washes you can re-apply the 845. skip your step 5 and 6, its redundant.

keep your regimen simple. wash/dry > clay > polish > apply sealant or wax. you can skip the claying and polishing if smooth pa at makintab yung paint surface then do the normal wash and wax.

read the Tamang OC thread from the beginning and you will learn a lot...

[ronmayajoan]

keep your regimen simple. wash/dry > clay > polish > apply sealant or wax. you can skip the claying and polishing if smooth pa at makintab yung paint surface then do the normal wash and wax.

read the Tamang OC thread from the beginning and you will learn a lot...

thank you for the reply sir. with regards to polishing medyo hindi ko po maintindihan ito eh, eto din po ba yung cleaner wax or prewax cleaner? tama po ba ko sa pagkaka intindi na ina-apply ito to prepare the paint for waxing? at inaalis nito yung old wax buildup para sa new layer ng wax? in that case po, pwede ko po ba gamitin Mothers Step 1 or Megs Step 1 for this?

When you sa "apply sealant or wax" sir, i will only apply only one of these two? or pwedeng lets say, Megs NXT tech wax or Mother & Megs step 2 then top up ko ng Collinite as my LSP.

ang gulo talaga sir, nakakalito hehehe. actually nalilito ako about sa sealant, polish and glaze. ang nakakalito eh yung next step after claying at before applying ng wax

[butchyboy]

thank you for the reply sir. with regards to polishing medyo hindi ko po maintindihan ito eh, eto din po ba yung cleaner wax or prewax cleaner? tama po ba ko sa pagkaka intindi na ina-apply ito to prepare the paint for waxing? at inaalis nito yung old wax buildup para sa new layer ng wax? in that case po, pwede ko po ba gamitin Mothers Step 1 or Megs Step 1 for this?

When you sa "apply sealant or wax" sir, i will only apply only one of these two? or pwedeng lets say, Megs NXT tech wax or Mother & Megs step 2 then top up ko ng Collinite as my LSP.

ang gulo talaga sir, nakakalito hehehe. actually nalilito ako about sa sealant, polish and glaze. ang nakakalito eh yung next step after claying at before applying ng wax

The way I see it, you have 2 parts in detailing the exterior of a car: Preparation and Protection.

Once you prep the surface parang hubad yan wala sya protection. Claying, compounding, polishing is under the prep part. I usually assume that Claying and compounding is more aggressive than polishing so inuuna ko muna si clay then si compound and last ko si polish. ( Compound and polish in what I do is optional, usually once or twice a year ko lng ginagawa depende sa condition nung paint ).

Protection usually involves the sealant and waxing part. I assume that the sealant I use is more durable than the wax, so inuuna ko muna si sealant then I layer the wax above it. ( plus I like the finish of my wax than my sealant ). Pag di ka nag prep at dumiretso ka sa protection, pwede rin naman pero the result might not be as great kung may prep part and the durability of your protection might not be as good.

Then there are products that fall in both categories, pasok ata dito si Klasse AIO, kaya nga siguro siya all in one?. I usually apply KAIO as my last step in the prep part. Then the Glazes, pwede siya pang prep since it can hide minor imperfections pero sakin kung ok compunding/polishing mo you might not need it, I don't know if it can protect but some glazes will tell you it can add gloss and depth to your paint ang di lang ako kampante is that it may degrade the durability of my sealant and wax since nakapatong sila sa glaze, so in my regimen I dont use glazes ;)

In between my detailing regimen is my maintenance part, this usually involves washing your car and applying your quick detailer. BTW I wash the car prior to claying ;)

[monty_GTV]

The way I see it, you have 2 parts in detailing the exterior of a car: Preparation and Protection.

Once you prep the surface parang hubad yan wala sya protection. Claying, compounding, polishing is under the prep part. I usually assume that Claying and compounding is more aggressive than polishing so inuuna ko muna si clay then si compound and last ko si polish. ( Compound and polish in what I do is optional, usually once or twice a year ko lng ginagawa depende sa condition nung paint ).

Protection usually involves the sealant and waxing part. I assume that the sealant I use is more durable than the wax, so inuuna ko muna si sealant then I layer the wax above it. ( plus I like the finish of my wax than my sealant ). Pag di ka nag prep at dumiretso ka sa protection, pwede rin naman pero the result might not be as great kung may prep part and the durability of your protection might not be as good.

Then there are products that fall in both categories, pasok ata dito si Klasse AIO, kaya nga siguro siya all in one?. I usually apply KAIO as my last step in the prep part. Then the Glazes, pwede siya pang prep since it can hide minor imperfections pero sakin kung ok compunding/polishing mo you might not need it, I don't know if it can protect but some glazes will tell you it can add gloss and depth to your paint ang di lang ako kampante is that it may degrade the durability of my sealant and wax since nakapatong sila sa glaze, so in my regimen I dont use glazes ;)

In between my detailing regimen is my maintenance part, this usually involves washing your car and applying your quick detailer. BTW I wash the car prior to claying ;)

+1, very well said sir butchyboy

[monty_GTV]

thank you for the reply sir. with regards to polishing medyo hindi ko po maintindihan ito eh, eto din po ba yung cleaner wax or prewax cleaner? tama po ba ko sa pagkaka intindi na ina-apply ito to prepare the paint for waxing? at inaalis nito yung old wax buildup para sa new layer ng wax? in that case po, pwede ko po ba gamitin Mothers Step 1 or Megs Step 1 for this?

When you sa "apply sealant or wax" sir, i will only apply only one of these two? or pwedeng lets say, Megs NXT tech wax or Mother & Megs step 2 then top up ko ng Collinite as my LSP.

ang gulo talaga sir, nakakalito hehehe. actually nalilito ako about sa sealant, polish and glaze. ang nakakalito eh yung next step after claying at before applying ng wax

polishing is prepping your paint surface para maalis lahat ng defects bago ka mag-apply ng LSP. cleaner wax or prewax cleaner as the name implied ay gaya ng nasabi mo inaapply bago magwax to get rid of mga residues during polishing para maganda kapit ng sealant o wax. i have no idea sa mothers at megs eh.

you can apply sealant or wax alone as your LSP or pwede magkapatong. rule of thumb is sealant muna then let it cure or give time to bond sa paint bago mo patungan ng wax.

para di ka malito, just follow yung basic regimen na wash > clay > polish > LSP. yung glaze is parang filler lang to hide imperfections kung hindi natanggal lahat during polishing. halimbawa merong scratch at swirls na hindi natanggal during polishing pwede maitago yan ng glaze para looking makinis yung paint surface.

after claying is polishing, either by hand or machine. dito mo inaalis mga imperfections ng paint like swirls, gasgas, mga oversprays etc. kapag severe yung condition ng paint need mo mag compounding, if mga swirls lang at minor scratches pwede na yung mga swirl removers. try to read mga detailing sites like autogeek, detailed image at autopia, maraming mga write ups about detailing, tamang paggamit at application ng mga polish/sealant/waxes. read back karin dito sa mga forum ng tsikot sigurado mga tanong mo may sagot na somewhere. enjoy detailing

[ronmayajoan]

polishing is prepping your paint surface para maalis lahat ng defects bago ka mag-apply ng LSP. cleaner wax or prewax cleaner as the name implied ay gaya ng nasabi mo inaapply bago magwax to get rid of mga residues during polishing para maganda kapit ng sealant o wax. i have no idea sa mothers at megs eh.

you can apply sealant or wax alone as your LSP or pwede magkapatong. rule of thumb is sealant muna then let it cure or give time to bond sa paint bago mo patungan ng wax.

para di ka malito, just follow yung basic regimen na wash > clay > polish > LSP. yung glaze is parang filler lang to hide imperfections kung hindi natanggal lahat during polishing. halimbawa merong scratch at swirls na hindi natanggal during polishing pwede maitago yan ng glaze para looking makinis yung paint surface.

after claying is polishing, either by hand or machine. dito mo inaalis mga imperfections ng paint like swirls, gasgas, mga oversprays etc. kapag severe yung condition ng paint need mo mag compounding, if mga swirls lang at minor scratches pwede na yung mga swirl removers. try to read mga detailing sites like autogeek, detailed image at autopia, maraming mga write ups about detailing, tamang paggamit at application ng mga polish/sealant/waxes. read back karin dito sa mga forum ng tsikot sigurado mga tanong mo may sagot na somewhere. enjoy detailing

Salamat sa reply sir, medyo (medyo lang) naiintindihan ko na po.

Now i understand na ang Polishing is part ng preparation stage before proceeding sa "protection" stage.

Another question po mga Sir, may curing time po ba ang polish bago ko i-apply ang wax? is Megs Ultimate Polish ok for the job?

Eto na po siguro ang final regimen ko, please let me know if i can proceed;

1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Polish (megs Ultimate Polish)
4. Sealant (Megs ultimate liquid wax) any brand po you can recommend? meg, mothers or Optimum po
5. Wax (Megs Ulimate Paste wax or Collinite 845)

Salamat po

[red_one]

Salamat sa reply sir, medyo (medyo lang) naiintindihan ko na po.

Now i understand na ang Polishing is part ng preparation stage before proceeding sa "protection" stage.

Another question po mga Sir, may curing time po ba ang polish bago ko i-apply ang wax? is Megs Ultimate Polish ok for the job?

Eto na po siguro ang final regimen ko, please let me know if i can proceed;

1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Polish (megs Ultimate Polish)
4. Sealant (Megs ultimate liquid wax) any brand po you can recommend? meg, mothers or Optimum po
5. Wax (Megs Ulimate Paste wax or Collinite 845)

Salamat po

Walang curing time ang Polish.

Meg's Ultimate Liquid Wax and Meg's Ultimate Paste Wax are both sealant (synthetic wax) so you do not need both. Yung Meg's Gold Class Carnauba Plus ang natural carnauba wax.

1. Wash
2. Clay (Optional when needed)
3. Meg's Ultimate Polish (Optional when needed)
4. Meg's Ultimate Paste Wax or Liquid Wax
5. Meg's Gold Class Carnauba Plus or Collinite 845 (Optional if desired)

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Salamat sa reply sir, medyo (medyo lang) naiintindihan ko na po.

Now i understand na ang Polishing is part ng preparation stage before proceeding sa "protection" stage.

Another question po mga Sir, may curing time po ba ang polish bago ko i-apply ang wax? is Megs Ultimate Polish ok for the job?

Eto na po siguro ang final regimen ko, please let me know if i can proceed;

1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Polish (megs Ultimate Polish)
4. Sealant (Megs ultimate liquid wax) any brand po you can recommend? meg, mothers or Optimum po
5. Wax (Megs Ulimate Paste wax or Collinite 845)

Salamat po

Walang curing time ang Polish.

Meg's Ultimate Liquid Wax and Meg's Ultimate Paste Wax are both sealant (synthetic wax) so you do not need both. Yung Meg's Gold Class Carnauba Plus ang natural carnauba wax.

1. Wash
2. Clay (Optional when needed)
3. Meg's Ultimate Polish (Optional when needed)
4. Meg's Ultimate Paste Wax or Liquid Wax
5. Meg's Gold Class Carnauba Plus or Collinite 845 (Optional if desired)