Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

[monty_GTV]

Naalala ko binigyan ako ni sir umi na sample niyan, sobrang dali i-apply at sobrang swabe afterwards...parang gusto ko bumili na rin hehehe

meron pako, kaso sobrang nag separate na yung contents niya, pag inaalog ko hindi na naghahalo hehe...

i noticed it too, kapag di mo i-shake masyado ang bottle, watery like lang ang tutulo sa applicator pad, understandable naman kasi oil based nga. so it really goes without saying SHAKE WELL BEFORE USING happy detailing!

[gearguru]

Finally bit the bullet and added lots of detailing stuff to my arsenal. This is now my set-up and how I plan to utilize them...

Microtex Wash and Wax - monthly or when my car is really dirty
Microtex Leather Cleaner/ Protectant/ Tire Black - monthly or more if needed
OCW - monthly or more if needed
ONR - weekly or more if needed
Mothers Showtime - weekly or more if needed
Prime Strong - 2 to 3x a year
Acrylic Jett Trigger - 2 to 3x a year
Mothers Clay Bar System - 2x a year
Meguiars Compound - to remove scratches
Mothers Billet Polish - for my stainless steel bumpers

For the applicators/ towels...
Microtex Elite
Viking Waffle Weave Towel
Lots of MF (Mothers, Optimum and Costco hehe)
MF Applicator Pads (both circular and rectangular)
California Duster
California Jelly Blade

All of these is for a Pajero FM which paint is still in good condition. I also just availed myself an engine/ exterior and interior detailing service a couple of months ago. For now, I dont intend to buy a motor polisher as well

You guys think I'm set? Or am I still missing critical pieces?

PS Didn't realize detailing is this addicting! But I'm enjoying it ;)


Thanks,
Dino

[umi001]

sir umi001, available na ba ang Werkstat products sa Pinas. parang yummy gamitin ang detailing line-ups nila

Not that I'm aware of - and they only seem to sell them direct in the US, they're not available at any of the big online detailing stores - which is the main reason why I haven't managed to buy any of their products yet. Seen very good reviews though, particularly over at Detailing World (they seem to have a larger retail presence in the UK, funnily enough).

[monty_GTV]

Not that I'm aware of - and they only seem to sell them direct in the US, they're not available at any of the big online detailing stores - which is the main reason why I haven't managed to buy any of their products yet. Seen very good reviews though, particularly over at Detailing World (they seem to have a larger retail presence in the UK, funnily enough).

ok thanks sir umi. wala pa nga kahit sa mga online detailing stores like AG. maganda kasi yung Carlack/Klasse, if its the same re-branded product ang Werkstat then maganda nga yan.

[3GEMS]

Guys ano maganda pang alis ng scratch, naka car cover kasi ako but itong pusa lumundag sa hood may lightscratches niwax ko na pero ng ibang scratches lng kinaya...

Currently using Collinite 476s very good water repellent perfect for rainy season

[umi001]

hi, im a car detailing noob. question lang, i asked my sister to buy me turtle wax platinum ultra gloss detailer. for some reason, ang binigay sa kanya ng lalaki sa ace hardware is turtle wax super hard shell car wax. gusto ko sana ng ultra gloss detailer pang minor cleaning lang. dinadala ko naman for car wash yung sasakyan ko kung gusto kong ipawax kasi wala akong panahon magwax. my question is, may iba bang gamit yung super hard shell car wax? sayang naman kasi. pwede ba sya sa dashboard, etc?

I would honestly see if you could return the TW Hard Shell and get what you originally wanted - it's really not a very good product, with poor durability, difficult application, and it has abrasives that will thin your clear coat over time. And no, you can't really use it anywhere else - those aforementioned abrasives will leave a white stain on any trim or hard plastic you try to apply it to.

[umi001]

considering the M7 to be purely oil based, do these need curing as well....basa mode muna. Multiple passes of KSG work well for me. When i started using it, pa 1 pass lang ako then bump to 2 tapos 3 passes. Heck wala pa sa 1/4 nababawas ko dun sa container. Im turning the car to a hydrophobic bitch :D

No curing for M7 - apply, wipe off, then top. And yes, from everything I've read, the durability of KSG really increases with more layers.

[umi001]

Sakin kasi nag separate yung liquid saka yung parang cream, pag inalog ko, parang langis na nilagyan mo ng tubig yung itsura hehe.

Shake, shake, shake, then shake some more - it should recombine after a bit of effort. You could also try dropping a ball bearing into the bottle - it'll help mix it up faster :D I've had Poli-Seal, BFWD, WGDGPS, and Pinnacle Liquid Souveran all separate on me - I just leave them in front of my detailing supplies, and shake anytime I seem them start to separate :D

[umi001]

Saw the dupont clay also at Hans but it's rated as aggressive. I believe the the ones that moms and megs have are mild ones lang.

Last time I checked they also had some fine ones, though that was some time ago.

[umi001]

Finally bit the bullet and added lots of detailing stuff to my arsenal. This is now my set-up and how I plan to utilize them...

Microtex Wash and Wax - monthly or when my car is really dirty
Microtex Leather Cleaner/ Protectant/ Tire Black - monthly or more if needed
OCW - monthly or more if needed
ONR - weekly or more if needed
Mothers Showtime - weekly or more if needed
Prime Strong - 2 to 3x a year
Acrylic Jett Trigger - 2 to 3x a year
Mothers Clay Bar System - 2x a year
Meguiars Compound - to remove scratches
Mothers Billet Polish - for my stainless steel bumpers

For the applicators/ towels...
Microtex Elite
Viking Waffle Weave Towel
Lots of MF (Mothers, Optimum and Costco hehe)
MF Applicator Pads (both circular and rectangular)
California Duster
California Jelly Blade

All of these is for a Pajero FM which paint is still in good condition. I also just availed myself an engine/ exterior and interior detailing service a couple of months ago. For now, I dont intend to buy a motor polisher as well

You guys think I'm set? Or am I still missing critical pieces?

PS Didn't realize detailing is this addicting! But I'm enjoying it ;)


Thanks,
Dino

Just a caution on Prime Strong - it has some abrasives, so again, I wouldn't want to use it as often as you would Prime (plain). Twice a year would probably be fine, though. For the compound, Meguiar's Ultimate Compound is a great product - good cut, long working time, and it finishes really well. Depending on your paint, you might or might not need a finer polish afterwards (though Prime Strong might be enough for that role - again, depending on your paint).

If you're buying in the US, might I recommend MicroFiberTech for microfibers? They have a good selection, and they offer a lot of the same towels that the detailing sites sell, but at half the price. Also, again if you're purchasing in the US, I'd strongly consider getting Ultima Waterless Wash - more lubrication than your normal QD, leaves a nice slickness, and has a great dilution ratio (1:43).

[umi001]

Guys ano maganda pang alis ng scratch, naka car cover kasi ako but itong pusa lumundag sa hood may lightscratches niwax ko na pero ng ibang scratches lng kinaya...

Currently using Collinite 476s very good water repellent perfect for rainy season

I have the same problem with cats - I'm having to spray a citrus cleaner around the car every couple of days or so, which seems to work in keeping them away (apparently cats don't like the scent of oranges :D) For the scratches, depends on how deep they are - you could start with something like Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, then work your way up to Swirl-X, Scratch-X 2.0, and eventually Ultimate Compound. I'd probably go with Swirl-X, and just make the effort to hand-polish it out, with multiple applications if necessary, if I didn't have a polisher.

[ronki]

sir umi, what kind of citrus cleaner did you use?

I have problems on my engine bay a.k.a. the house of our neighbor's cat.

Everytime I wash my car I wipe down the engine bay to clean it...for the cat.

[3GEMS]

I have the same problem with cats - I'm having to spray a citrus cleaner around the car every couple of days or so, which seems to work in keeping them away (apparently cats don't like the scent of oranges :D) For the scratches, depends on how deep they are - you could start with something like Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, then work your way up to Swirl-X, Scratch-X 2.0, and eventually Ultimate Compound. I'd probably go with Swirl-X, and just make the effort to hand-polish it out, with multiple applications if necessary, if I didn't have a polisher.

Sorry bro im very noob at detailing.. Pwede swirl x agad then apply nalang aq collinite after? Mukhang mababaw lang naman kasi naka cover yung car...
May nabasa ako somewhere dito sa tsikot ayaw daw ng pusa ang paminta?

[gearguru]

Just a caution on Prime Strong - it has some abrasives, so again, I wouldn't want to use it as often as you would Prime (plain). Twice a year would probably be fine, though. For the compound, Meguiar's Ultimate Compound is a great product - good cut, long working time, and it finishes really well. Depending on your paint, you might or might not need a finer polish afterwards (though Prime Strong might be enough for that role - again, depending on your paint).

If you're buying in the US, might I recommend MicroFiberTech for microfibers? They have a good selection, and they offer a lot of the same towels that the detailing sites sell, but at half the price. Also, again if you're purchasing in the US, I'd strongly consider getting Ultima Waterless Wash - more lubrication than your normal QD, leaves a nice slickness, and has a great dilution ratio (1:43).

Thanks again Mr. Umi. I was looking at MFTech but given I haven't seen one physically, are they that much better than the Microtex MFs here? As for the QD, will wait for promo offers from AG. I only got the Mothers QD to avail Amazon's free shipping...not to mention it only cost me like P350 bucks ;)

[umi001]

sir umi, what kind of citrus cleaner did you use?

I have problems on my engine bay a.k.a. the house of our neighbor's cat.

Everytime I wash my car I wipe down the engine bay to clean it...for the cat.

I bought a citrus one (can't remember the name) from S&R a while back - they don't have it in stock anymore, last time I looked though.

[umi001]

Sorry bro im very noob at detailing.. Pwede swirl x agad then apply nalang aq collinite after? Mukhang mababaw lang naman kasi naka cover yung car...
May nabasa ako somewhere dito sa tsikot ayaw daw ng pusa ang paminta?

Yes, that'll work fine, though as mentioned, you might need a couple of applications of Swirl-X to remove all of the scratches, depending on how deep they are.

[umi001]

Thanks again Mr. Umi. I was looking at MFTech but given I haven't seen one physically, are they that much better than the Microtex MFs here? As for the QD, will wait for promo offers from AG. I only got the Mothers QD to avail Amazon's free shipping...not to mention it only cost me like P350 bucks ;)

They have some really good towels - like the 460gsm Korean towel, the 600gsm towels, or the edgeless terrys - that don't have any Microtex equivalent. They're also cheaper, bought in bulk - their 360gsm towels, which are comparable to the Microtex Plush, are 22.90 for a pack of ten, which comes out to about 120 pesos per towel.

[gearguru]

They have some really good towels - like the 460gsm Korean towel, the 600gsm towels, or the edgeless terrys - that don't have any Microtex equivalent. They're also cheaper, bought in bulk - their 360gsm towels, which are comparable to the Microtex Plush, are 22.90 for a pack of ten, which comes out to about 120 pesos per towel.

nice...didn't notice this in AG...are they available there? tried searching it but had no luck

[allenjo]

nice...didn't notice this in AG...are they available there? tried searching it but had no luck

Sayang boss...i believe a couple or 3 months ago, nag bogo sale sa AG na puro MF towels. Sakto din i had a relative there na papauwi ng pinas so ordered lots of them plus yung 36x24 cobra gold plush. Lagi napapagkamalan na tuwalya dito sa bahay sobra laking basahan hehehe.

[monty_GTV]

Sayang boss...i believe a couple or 3 months ago, nag bogo sale sa AG na puro MF towels. Sakto din i had a relative there na papauwi ng pinas so ordered lots of them plus yung 36x24 cobra gold plush. Lagi napapagkamalan na tuwalya dito sa bahay sobra laking basahan hehehe.

*sir allenjo, mas advantage nga yang malaki sir, less na magka swirl kasi di mo na kailangan na ipunas. itapal-tapal mo lang sa basa at ma-absorb na, di ka rin piga ng piga kasi malaki, kayang punasan at patuyuin buong car ng di ka nagpipiga. happy detailing!