Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[franster]

EO is good enough, its not bad, one of the better OTC's but IMO its only good on silvers and golds, it has great cleaning ability for a cleaner wax and it fills decently but if you compare it to darker colored vehicles Nano Glos takes the cake

it all depends on what the color of the paint is, if you could tell me i would recommend waxes for you

Hi there, may I ask if what wax and method can you recommend on my BEIGE car? TIA

[madkatz]

yung clay bar ba ilang session na gamitan? anong lubricant ginagamit don?

its reusable and dependent on how much contaminants its accumulated but generally its good for more than 30 details for a whole big bar, what most people do is cut it as mentioned so that on the occasion you drop it and it becomes too contaminated from the ground its not that painful to throw it away, actually you could start using 1/4 or 1/3 just a small piece to get a hang of it

[madkatz]

the color of my car is silver-beige. I used a soft terry cloth on the application. Should I use something else? i believe the swirls being left was caused by the cloth i used, or I maybe wrong. Not so sure.


I think the product works well. The targeted fine scratch was gone but are left with finer scratches/swirls, similar to "cobweb" effect. Is that normal for a 3m auto scratch remover to do?

i agree with Indiej

try hitting it with a milder polish, swirlX would do a great job of refining the surface to a high gloss, one of the best OTC scratch removers is ScratchX and its very effective when used by hand and via foam applicator however there are also cheaper alternatives like Mothers Scratch remover that works nearly as well as ScratchX, try these two with a foam applicator pad

[madkatz]

I know right sir. I was talking about the 200 Pesos difference. Kaya ako namamahalan kasi they're giving the lls to me for 1600, while you only got it for 1400.

ohh sorry was replying from the start of the thread hehe didn't see this, my apologies

[madkatz]

grabe. ang hirap nung swirlx. hahaha! naka ilang pasada ako hindi pa rin ako satisfied. hehehe. baka meron may gusto sa inyo. madami pa to. wala pang 1/4 nagamit ko. palitan niyo na lang. offer na lang kayo. paint cleaner pwede na. hehehe. pm na lang. papagawa ko na lang sa mga detailers yung paint correction. hehehe

just keep it as kafph had mentioned, maybe you were already tackling moderate to heavy swirls thats why its not working so well, in that case you might need something more aggressive like Megs UC

[madkatz]

Oh. I forgot to mention this,

I think I have used 3M Auto Scratch Remover often on some spot treatment, and I have the feeling that I abraded much of the layer of the clear coat (or I may be just paranoid). If you must know, I used a light pressure on the application.

Should I provide a new layer of clear coat on those spot treatments? Or is the application of wax enough to seal the cured clear coat?

check if the area for orange peel, if it still has orange peel or if its flat but looks like there's still a film on top, you're still safe

[madkatz]

Mas maganda yung halogen lights yung pang flood lights. Labas lahat ng swirls ng paint niyan

500watts! very hot to hold but it sure is nice to show all the defects

[madkatz]

Guys,

Ever since I've been using Meguiars NXT car wash shampoo. Medyo paubos na siya so I'm thinking, meron ba alternative na shampoo sa Meguairs NXT that is cheaper but delivers the same quality? Thanks.

are you particular with the smell and lubricity? if not then try BB's shampoo or microtex shampoo, both are great value for money, but for me i will always keep at least 2 bottles of NXT shampoo around, its one of the best smelling shampoos hehehe and its lubricity is also great

[madkatz]

here's the pic.

nano gloss + 476s.
yung swirlx sa trunk lang and half ng roof. hahaha. wag niyo na lang pansinin ung gasgas sa hood. hehehe. napagtripan dati ng mga makukulit eh. hehe

nice job! am i seeing this right? am i seeing basically two of the same cars?

[madkatz]

So if I provide a layer of clear coat to the paint, would that be enough? or would it just be redundant for the paint? OR should I wax it instead?

Is clear coat available over the counter? TIA

it quite hard to just apply clear coat by yourself hehehe i would recommend you have someone do it, if im not mistaken though i think my BF was just authorized to buy Opti-coat its like layering a very thin layer of clear coat, we'll keep you posted if affected area is just small just drop by once we thoroughly test it and if we have some extra we'll just put some on the affected parts

[franster]

check if the area for orange peel, if it still has orange peel or if its flat but looks like there's still a film on top, you're still safe

sorry for the ignorance, but does this orange peel literally orange?

As what I have observe on the spots that i had applied with the 3M Auto Scratch Remover, the area looks dull and not shiny anymore and has swirls, but still up with the level of the surface of the coat.

[madkatz]

Up ko lang po question ko. Thanks

Just mix 1/2 cup with 5 gallons of water, thats what we used to do until ours always "magically" disappears, one huge bucket the kind you see in ed's place is 5 gallons we mix about 1/2 to 1 cup of vinegar with it

[madkatz]

Guys, Meron ba sainyo gumagamit ng wheel brush to clean the wheels? Is it scratch free? I'm planning to buy one pero yun nakita ko yun sa Mothers and Meguiars, I was scared that it might cause scratches in my wheels.

i use them about half a dozen of them and they don't scratch the wheels once used properly

try the one from Mr clean, its very soft compared to mom and megs, i've used it and it doesn't scratch just as long as you don't use it dry ok

[Chikselog]

Just mix 1/2 cup with 5 gallons of water, thats what we used to do until ours always "magically" disappears, one huge bucket the kind you see in ed's place is 5 gallons we mix about 1/2 to 1 cup of vinegar with it

Ooh nice! Too bad wala na kong Perla pero I can't wait to try this one!

[jmpet626]

Actually for removing waxes and sealants, basically anything that doesn't need pressure to remove, those MF's area already great, but try to use those MF's to remove gummed on polishes and compounds and you will see it will actually instill scratches, those MF's are ok for light pressure usage but with moderate you might be a little bit disappointed, thats why we have a lot of MF's at home depending on the purpose of use, for QD and easy wax removals those are fine, but there's also a reason why we invest on the much more expensive MF's from Microtex and from abroad, BMW and mercs clear coat are very sensitive and believe me the MF's we use for them are very expensive hehe

Di ko pa na try mag remove ng gummed up polish using that MF. If applied properly yung wax and polish its ok naman. Nasa 35 pesos lang kasi lumalabas each yung yellow Mfs kung 36-pack binili.

[jmpet626]

500watts! very hot to hold but it sure is nice to show all the defects

Hahah init nga niya pero labas lahat ng swirls na usually hindi lumalabas kung fluorescent light lang ang gamit.

[madkatz]

sorry for the ignorance, but does this orange peel literally orange?

As what I have observe on the spots that i had applied with the 3M Auto Scratch Remover, the area looks dull and not shiny anymore and has swirls, but still up with the level of the surface of the coat.

try to search orange peel on google

[madkatz]

Di ko pa na try mag remove ng gummed up polish using that MF. If applied properly yung wax and polish its ok naman. Nasa 35 pesos lang kasi lumalabas each yung yellow Mfs kung 36-pack binili.

in most cases where the wax and polish is easy to remove and apply this is already enough, but with some of the Megs and Menzerna line same with Farecla they have a high tendency to gum up on high speeds with rotary and these gummed up products are usually very hard to remove often requiring a lot of elbow grease

[franster]

try to search orange peel on google

Thanks. So it is called orange peel cause of it's texture and looks similar with the peel of the orange.

well that's not my case actually. What I have observe and catches more of my attention is the dullness and lack of shine of the spot that I treated with 3M Auto Scratch Remover. Can waxing bring back its shine? or do I really have to use a polish?glaze?

[jmpet626]

Thanks. So it is called orange peel cause of it's texture and looks similar with the peel of the orange.

well that's not my case actually. What I have observe and catches more of my attention is the dullness and lack of shine of the spot that I treated with 3M Auto Scratch Remover. Can waxing bring back its shine? or do I really have to use a polish?glaze?

Polish need niyan like swirl X. Di talaga maganda finish ng 3m scratch remover masyadong agressive.