Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[franster]

if that's the case you should hit it with a less aggressive polishing product for the fine swirls. what color is your car? what did you use to apply 3mASR?

the color of my car is silver-beige. I used a soft terry cloth on the application. Should I use something else? i believe the swirls being left was caused by the cloth i used, or I maybe wrong. Not so sure.

your "very fine scratches" could be swirls. Swirlx is better suited for that and final corrections.
take pictures of a scratch. work 3mASR with an MF/foam applicator pad til it clears or almost dries. repeat til the scratch is corrected. take pictures of that area showing whatever remaining blemish you see. you should omit it if it really doesn't work for you.

I think the product works well. The targeted fine scratch was gone but are left with finer scratches/swirls, similar to "cobweb" effect. Is that normal for a 3m auto scratch remover to do?

[indiej]

how do you look for the swirls? i mean what light do you use and how.

use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber.

it's not normal cos i used it a few times without those issues. have you found the areas untouched by your cloth without the swirls like those of the treated area?

pictures would help.

[indiej]

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use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber..

oops, i forgot about the cd test. rub your cloth on a scratch-free underside of a cd and see if the cloth scratches it.

[Batang Regla]

Hi detailers

Ano tamang gamitin pang buff ng wax, cleaner wax, sealant...etc

"Plushy microfiber or psedo butas-butas microfiber(yung square na bako bako)

After using pwede pa ba mahugasan ito at gamitin ulit or disposable na once malagyan ng wax?

[Louie_18]

Hi detailers

Ano tamang gamitin pang buff ng wax, cleaner wax, sealant...etc

"Plushy microfiber or psedo butas-butas microfiber(yung square na bako bako)

After using pwede pa ba mahugasan ito at gamitin ulit or disposable na once malagyan ng wax?

MF Plush ang pang buff... You can wash it for re-use

[franster]

how do you look for the swirls? i mean what light do you use and how.

use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber.

it's not normal cos i used it a few times without those issues. have you found the areas untouched by your cloth without the swirls like those of the treated area?

pictures would help.

they are visible during night time where I use the flourescent light of the garage to reflect on the paint. The swirls, however, are not visible during daytime even at any angle.

Also, I'll try to post some pics later if I can find a decent angle where it would be visible.

Thanks for the help guys. :-)

[franster]

Oh. I forgot to mention this,

I think I have used 3M Auto Scratch Remover often on some spot treatment, and I have the feeling that I abraded much of the layer of the clear coat (or I may be just paranoid). If you must know, I used a light pressure on the application.

Should I provide a new layer of clear coat on those spot treatments? Or is the application of wax enough to seal the cured clear coat?

[madkatz]

Oh. I forgot to mention this,

I think I have used 3M Auto Scratch Remover often on some spot treatment, and I have the feeling that I abraded much of the layer of the clear coat (or I may be just paranoid). If you must know, I used a light pressure on the application.

Should I provide a new layer of clear coat on those spot treatments? Or is the application of wax enough to seal the cured clear coat?

check if the area for orange peel, if it still has orange peel or if its flat but looks like there's still a film on top, you're still safe

[franster]

check if the area for orange peel, if it still has orange peel or if its flat but looks like there's still a film on top, you're still safe

sorry for the ignorance, but does this orange peel literally orange?

As what I have observe on the spots that i had applied with the 3M Auto Scratch Remover, the area looks dull and not shiny anymore and has swirls, but still up with the level of the surface of the coat.

[madkatz]

sorry for the ignorance, but does this orange peel literally orange?

As what I have observe on the spots that i had applied with the 3M Auto Scratch Remover, the area looks dull and not shiny anymore and has swirls, but still up with the level of the surface of the coat.

try to search orange peel on google

[indiej]

they are visible during night time where I use the flourescent light of the garage to reflect on the paint. The swirls, however, are not visible during daytime even at any angle.

very well then. it is easy enough to spot them. cobwebs you said.

..I think I have used 3M Auto Scratch Remover often on some spot treatment, and I have the feeling that I abraded much of the layer of the clear coat (or I may be just paranoid). If you must know, I used a light pressure on the application.

Should I provide a new layer of clear coat on those spot treatments? Or is the application of wax enough to seal the cured clear coat?

if it's always on the same spot, be careful next time. you'll know it's the base coat when your polish applicator gets the color of your car. you may just glaze instead of abrading the topcoat.

yes wax protects the clear coat. slip in UV protection and you're gonna be fine.

a new layer of clear coat is great if it's convenient for you. 3-4 months 3m Imperial Hand Glaze before you can really detail. i'm gearing up to be able to do this.

[franster]

a new layer of clear coat is great if it's convenient for you. 3-4 months 3m Imperial Hand Glaze before you can really detail. i'm gearing up to be able to do this.

So if I provide a layer of clear coat to the paint, would that be enough? or would it just be redundant for the paint? OR should I wax it instead?

Is clear coat available over the counter? TIA

[madkatz]

So if I provide a layer of clear coat to the paint, would that be enough? or would it just be redundant for the paint? OR should I wax it instead?

Is clear coat available over the counter? TIA

it quite hard to just apply clear coat by yourself hehehe i would recommend you have someone do it, if im not mistaken though i think my BF was just authorized to buy Opti-coat its like layering a very thin layer of clear coat, we'll keep you posted if affected area is just small just drop by once we thoroughly test it and if we have some extra we'll just put some on the affected parts

[Louie_18]

Guys, I'm having a hard time cleaning the roof part of our Innova(hirap talaga abutin) that's why it's the most neglected part of our ride. Ano bang effective way to remove the water spots in that area? Thanks

[indiej]

So if I provide a layer of clear coat to the paint, would that be enough? or would it just be redundant for the paint? OR should I wax it instead?

Is clear coat available over the counter? TIA

it is enough to thicken your existing clear. We are inclined to add protection to that which we found inconvenient to apply. we want to want a more convenient layer of protection to the previous less convenient layer. a recursive concern.

you can buy from a paint store and there are CCs in can. it takes some knowledge and practice, not to mention proper equipment, to apply so you'll need a practice surface not on your car. only then can you relax about protecting it.

[kafph2000]

Thanks ms. Madkatz for the replies.

[indiej]

jooball faust! my first. moving on..

[scharnhorst]

how do you look for the swirls? i mean what light do you use and how.

use the terry cloth with soap on a small area, rinse, dry and check before and after. if it induced swirls, don't use it on paint. just use microfiber.

it's not normal cos i used it a few times without those issues. have you found the areas untouched by your cloth without the swirls like those of the treated area?

pictures would help.

sir indiej, the best lights to use are:

1)xenon bulbs
2)LED lamps

[jmpet626]

Mas maganda yung halogen lights yung pang flood lights. Labas lahat ng swirls ng paint niyan

[x_jason_x]

Guys,

Ever since I've been using Meguiars NXT car wash shampoo. Medyo paubos na siya so I'm thinking, meron ba alternative na shampoo sa Meguairs NXT that is cheaper but delivers the same quality? Thanks.