Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[Louie_18]

GREAT JOB!!

i like the hood shot!

but i think you might want to alter you process

Wash, SwirlX, IPA Wipe, Nano Glos and OGE would be fine

if ever it would be

Wash, SwirlX, Cleaner Wax, Nano Glos and OGE

but wash, swirlX, IPA, Nano Glos and OGE is already great

SwirlX already leaves a brilliant finish

Thanks Ms. Madkatz for the compliment
I will try the Wash, SwirlX, Nano Gloss and OGE next week. Malaking bagay talaga pag may buffing machine like the PC, very easy and fast application ng products. Thanks again!

[Hardinero]

To be safe car wash na lang ulit pag uwi. Ingat ingat na lang sa pag wash and dry para hindi mag cause ulet ng swirls and scratches

ok paps...ganon gawin ko...thanks..

[watusi]

BTW, naayos na ng CASA yung paint ng Tucson ko. Hindi ko sila pinagalitan while addressing my concern. They also thanked me kasi daw binalik ko sa kanila at alam na nila kung ano ang mali nila.

SG, buti naman at inayos ng casa. naalala ko yung photos na na-post mo dati. nawala yung gloss ng isang panel. curious lang, paano po nabalik yung gloss na paint? buff ba o spray ng clearcoat? Anong pwedend DIY para maayos yung problema na pareho sayo dati?

[indiej]

ay oo nga ok din if AIO before 915...thanks for the tip...

bale wala na bang waiting time before ko apply 915?

ah, waiting time. it would be a waste to use AIO/NSC only as a cleaner. curing time for the sealant in it starts at 30-45 minutes. 12-24 hours unless SG/LLS is next.

when the product instructions say 'curing time', i'd generally think the layer should be left alone either to react with the ambient air/temp or to release byproducts to the air.

also paps, with regards to carlack AIO normally per panel ko ito ini-apply and habang basa siya buff ko agad hindi ko ina-antay na matuyuan ako...siguro hindi pa talaga ako expert mag-apply nito
kasi nahihirapan ako i-buff pag natuyuan ako..

pero which is better buff agad after application or wait for 15mins (or what suggested time to buff) to
buff it..

it's better to wait for it to dry to a haze. gently dab the damp AIO/NSC applicator pad in the area of stubborn streaks or haze, then buff with your microfiber towel.

[rico_g]

pssst.... belated happy bday!!!

salamat idol! belated happy beerday din!

Wow!!!! 3rd thread na to mga idol! Congrats to us!

[watusi]

Wow!!!! 3rd thread na to mga idol! Congrats to us!

magpainom ba ulit mga birthday celebrants?

parang ok gawin yun sa detailing EB. detailing while tipsy, hahahah

[Nik]

last time i compared /newly washed/476s/aio/aio&sg/ on the hood, i only noticed the 476. there's a little better sheeting on the aio&sg vs the bare, newly-washed part. i cannot tell really unless we find a reagent for SG. Chemists please

sir we got same result.. try sir to include aio& sg 2layers.. it won't sheet anymore compared to aio&sg 1layer.. it will bead already.. aio&sg 3layers beads also like sg(2layers).. so what i did to make it sure that my paint has protection i always put a 3layer SG.. if after 1 month and it doesn't bead anymore it means that the layer is already thin (the water still sheets, it glides tha paint fast).. and after 1month the water sheeting is already slow in gliding the paint, this means the SG is gone compared to the thin layer of SG that sheet water faster..

we use our car everyday atleast 12km(around bulacan).. 4days a week it travels atleast 100km (pulilan bulacan to manila then back to pulilan) thats why the sealant depriciate a lot faster. and also i don't wash our car regularly so the contaminants sleep in the paint. maybe this is the reason why my sealant gone fast.

this is how i determine if i still got carlack68 LLS / KSG in my paint. but i don't know if when the water beading/sheeting is gone does LLS/KSG still protect the paint. just to be sure i apply again 3layers of LLS when water sheets/glides in the paint slow like what it happens in bare paint.


*sir JMpet sir next week ko na po kunin yung z2. busy lang this week board exam ko po sa saturday and sunday.. try ko if ganto rin ba mag react ang z2 compare to LLS hehe

[indiej]

Nik, do you check for water etch marks before layering anew?

ah, we'll try putting a mark on the paint or on the layers of cured SG. dunno which marker yet. game? everyone? tulong tulong na lang.

[Hardinero]

*indiej thanks paps for the heads up

*psi tnx bro, cam pic nga lang..

*nik inggit ako...3 layer...sana ako makapag-ganyan....kahit 2 nga lang ayos na ako

sana sa next next weekend eh hindi maaraw para makapag layer...

[Nik]

Nik, do you check for water etch marks before layering anew?

ah, we'll try putting a mark on the paint or on the layers of cured SG. dunno which marker yet. game? everyone? tulong tulong na lang.

yup sir i always check the paint.. dapat lagi sya in perfect condition pag nilagayan ng LLS para pogi hehe nag kakaron ng water etch pero mabilis matangal dahil sa LLS na nakalagay.. NSC then 3layers LLS na ulit ganyan routine kada 2months hehe pero tatagal naman ng 3months or 4 siguro yung LLS pag summer time na.

sir panong mark?

[Nik]

*indiej thanks paps for the heads up

*psi tnx bro, cam pic nga lang..

*nik inggit ako...3 layer...sana ako makapag-ganyan....kahit 2 nga lang ayos na ako

sana sa next next weekend eh hindi maaraw para makapag layer...

sir hardinero .. ginagawa ko kasi 12hrs curing time lang hahaha
ask ko parents ko if what time sila aalis kinabukasan para sure..

7pm after mag diner wash na ako then (clay if magaspang paint) NSC and LLS..

tapos kinabukasan 7pm ulit wash ko ulit tapos LLS.. tapos kinabukasan ulit 7pm wash ako then LLS..

counted as 3 layers wahaha kahit ginamit nila yun auto ganyan parin process ko important sakin 7pm to 7am wag gagamitin..

nakita ko naman result ok naman.. pero 2months lang tapyas na LLS if gagawin sa tamang way baka tumagal pa ng more than 2months yung 3layer LLS..

pero ngayon need ko na mag clay, swirlx, step2 and NSC na ulit kasi napabayaan ko yung car.. busy for board exam

[Hardinero]

sir hardinero .. ginagawa ko kasi 12hrs curing time lang hahaha
ask ko parents ko if what time sila aalis kinabukasan para sure..

7pm after mag diner wash na ako then (clay if magaspang paint) NSC and LLS..

tapos kinabukasan 7pm ulit wash ko ulit tapos LLS.. tapos kinabukasan ulit 7pm wash ako then LLS..

counted as 3 layers wahaha kahit ginamit nila yun auto ganyan parin process ko important sakin 7pm to 7am wag gagamitin..

nakita ko naman result ok naman.. pero 2months lang tapyas na LLS if gagawin sa tamang way baka tumagal pa ng more than 2months yung 3layer LLS..

pero ngayon need ko na mag clay, swirlx, step2 and NSC na ulit kasi napabayaan ko yung car.. busy for board exam

ah ganon ba paps...pero diba hindi dapat gamitin yung car kung magle-layer?

ako kasi nag-aalangan since car tent ako and kahit na mag-car cover ako matatamaan parin ng araw kaya naisip ko baka hindi rin ganon ka-effective yung pag-layer ko..

wait natin feedback ng mga gurus..

[Nik]

ah ganon ba paps...pero diba hindi dapat gamitin yung car kung magle-layer?

ako kasi nag-aalangan since car tent ako and kahit na mag-car cover ako matatamaan parin ng araw kaya naisip ko baka hindi rin ganon ka-effective yung pag-layer ko..

wait natin feedback ng mga gurus..

same tayo naka tent lang din ako.. tama dapat hindi gamitin pag nag layer.. eh kaya lang araw araw gamit yung car.. kesa wala siyang sealant eh ok lang na ganun gawin ko kahit papa ano may protection siya.. yun nga lang every 2months ako mag lalayer. ok na din kesa magas gasan or lumala mga water etch. no choice kasi lagi gamit yung auto. ma-aksya nga lang ako sa LLS. never pa nangyaring na stock sa bahay yung car sa loob ng 3 days eh at impossible mangyari yun hahaha

mga masters ok lang kaya gawin ko ito? sana may protection padin ito .. ok lang kung ma lessen yung durability.

[indiej]

yup sir i always check the paint.. dapat lagi sya in perfect condition pag nilagayan ng LLS para pogi hehe nag kakaron ng water etch pero mabilis matangal dahil sa LLS na nakalagay.. NSC then 3layers LLS na ulit ganyan routine kada 2months hehe pero tatagal naman ng 3months or 4 siguro yung LLS pag summer time na.

sir panong mark?

any mark that will stay on top of a layer(s) of SG. a mark that won't seep through your first layer like AIO or SG and is paint safe. put it on the layer you're guarding against depletion. you now can check if that mark is there or gone. this way we don't need to hula/hope about the endurance of SG or any layer for that matter.

i :gouste: your diligence.

[raine]

bro if after mag LLS(3 layers) patungan pa ng wax, masmaganda ba kung ganito, then pawax wax na lang kahit every 1 week, para di mawala ang sealant, na rerecharge lang ang wax, pwede ba ang ganoon.

[indiej]

same tayo naka tent lang din ako.. tama dapat hindi gamitin pag nag layer.. eh kaya lang araw araw gamit yung car.. kesa wala siyang sealant eh ok lang na ganun gawin ko kahit papa ano may protection siya.. yun nga lang every 2months ako mag lalayer. ok na din kesa magas gasan or lumala mga water etch. no choice kasi lagi gamit yung auto. ma-aksya nga lang ako sa LLS. never pa nangyaring na stock sa bahay yung car sa loob ng 3 days eh at impossible mangyari yun hahaha

btw, what's the color of your car? how do you check for water etches? they're not easily seen you see. here's how i look for them, my eye level is very close to the level of the panel, i use the reflection of light from the outdoors.

since you wash everytime you're layering LLS, you can actually use the car the next day. you can layer on the day it stays home. for daily drivers, you can wash and layer when the car comes back for the day.

can't find the warning against sunlight during the LLS curing process. the tent helps. try to email the maker of your sealant, maybe you'd be pleasantly surprised, or read around the net. no need to confine yourselves here. do come back and educate us.

[indiej]

*raine
yes. wax over sealants. that's the general advice here. wax away

[Nik]

btw, what's the color of your car? how do you check for water etches? they're not easily seen you see. here's how i look for them, my eye level is very close to the level of the panel, i use the reflection of light from the outdoors.

since you wash everytime you're layering LLS, you can actually use the car the next day. you can layer on the day it stays home. for daily drivers, you can wash and layer when the car comes back for the day.

can't find the warning against sunlight during the LLS curing process. the tent helps. try to email the maker of your sealant, maybe you'd be pleasantly surprised, or read around the net. no need to confine yourselves here. do come back and educate us.

Bold Beige honda city09, i check water etch tulad ng pag check nyo.. tipong nakapataong yung pisngi sa paint tapos sisipatin mo yung mga paint if may water etch.. nag try na din po ako mag search.. wala ako nakitang bawal ma arawan.. bawal lang eh mabasa.. try ko ulit hanapin yung link na nag sabing iwasan matalsikan ng water habang nag cure pa.. google best friend ko para alamin yung isang product hehe tapos iniisa isa ko mga forums na lalabas sa google when i type "LLS" "how to ... " etc etc.

for me gumana naman yung seal 12hrs, use car, wash ,seal... sa loob kasi nung 12hrs curing time na yun no sunlight at no water contaminant.

[Nik]

any mark that will stay on top of a layer(s) of SG. a mark that won't seep through your first layer like AIO or SG and is paint safe. put it on the layer you're guarding against depletion. you now can check if that mark is there or gone. this way we don't need to hula/hope about the endurance of SG or any layer for that matter.

i :gouste: your diligence.

ahh got it sir..try ko mga ma iisip ko. pentel pen try ko, hehe saka liquid eraser hehe..

[indiej]

Bold Beige honda city09, i check water etch tulad ng pag check nyo..

mine's light beige. careful with where you test the markers. paint safe.