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[madkatz]

Freakin' rain again. Caused flooding all around Manila.

Cool thing is, though, when I reached for the car to go home, lahat ng tubig bilog bilog hahaha. And it has very few watermarks.

Thank GOD for ONR! It made my cleaning a lot easier. Pang tamad talaga haha. Tires at wheel wells lang di ko nalinis dahil pagod na ko. 9PM na ako nakauwi.

2 hours ang byahe ko ngayon from school to our house dahil sa pesteng baha.

Now my clutch is squeaking again .

*madkatz
I dunno if glass polishing can solve the problem. Thing is tuwing tuloy tuloy lang ang ulan which means laging basa ang windshield, tsaka siya nagjjudder at squeak. Something's telling me na sa wiper ang problema. Ang pagiging silicone ba ng wiper may kinalaman sa pag judder?

Hmmm we'll just have to check it out first hand to see what causes the jumping.

[madkatz]

So those Step 1, 2, 3 products, regardless of brand, are mostly for cars that, more or less, are in really tip top shape? Those that need only very minor corrections? Bigla ako nanghinayan sa mga binili ko... huhuhu But then, once ma restore ko yung exterior, ito na puwede ko gamitin

Which means, kailangan ko ng polish! Aside from SwirlX and ScratchX, any other suggestions?

Sa wax naman, kailangan ko talaga mag hanap ng carnauba...

I think before I buy anything again, pa diagnose ko muna sa inyo nila Sir Ed sa Sunday, and the other gurus who might be there

On a different note, ako lang ba o minsan ang hirap mag post dito sa forum? Ang dalas ng Page Cannot Be Displayed. Kainis, grrr. 20 mintues na, ayaw pa rin mag post... sa wakas!

Actually i would still recommend buying Step 1 2 and 3 either Moms of Megs for that matter for the following reasons

Step 1 pre wax cleaner - while it is true that claying can remove any layer of protection from the paint i don't think you would always want to clay your car right? so this is where pre-wax cleaner steps in, lets say you're like me that seals and waxes my car multiple times 3 to 4 times a year, lets just make it 4 times a year, and after the first quarter of your complete claying with Step1 to 3 and multiple layers, and the paint is still smooth, are you gonna clay the whole car to slap on layers of sealants and waxes again? using this product makes that easier.

Step 2 - this depends on whether its mothers or megs, if its moms step 2 then you could always use this for filling and adding gloss to the paint whenever needed, and for megs, although it doesn't fill as much as mothers, megs step 2 can produce a better shine IMO for darker cars.

Step 3 - i don't think you would be waxing each week or every 2 weeks with a collinite right? thats gonna run through your pocket really soon, so why don't you just use this for those inbetween wax sessions and save a little more money by using a good wax to boost you existing main/protection wax.

[madkatz]

ganyan talaga dito sa tsikot. kakainis lalo na pag ang haba ng pinost mo...

and about buying the "wrong" things? ganyan rin ako, sir. bumili ako ng step 3 a couple of weeks bago yung seminar with sir edwin - ibang klase talaga yung collinite na nakuha ko mula sa kanya in terms of durability.

btw, sir, MD kayo?

hahaha look at me, i still have a lot of products i don't even want to use because of bad reviews, and can i say the gallons of polishes i have that aren't even used and opened? we're still trying to finish my Bf's supply and im sure that would take some time as well.

[madkatz]

Hi Sir,

I really appreciate your reply.
Honestly, my car is just 2 months old and dame na agad watermarks. Sa windshield I used the Elevo and Micro Magic Repellant combo so far effective. But sa hood mukhang nag etch na talaga sir. Kanina ko lang nakita eto. Nagkaroon yata sya nung watermark after my wife clean our car under the sunlight

Anyway, may question po ako dito:



So Apply Step 1, 2 and 3. If I wanted to re-apply Step 3 do I need to wait 3-4 hours?
Or
Apply Step 1, 2 then wait 3-4hrs then Step 3?



Yung watermarks on hood sir sinubukan ko ng Mother's Carnauba Cleaner Wax di talaga kinaya. Baka dalhin ko na lang sa BigBert's

Thanks for the reply sir beeco.

You wait for 4 to 8 hours after applying step 3 to re-apply step 3

If carnauba cleaner wax can't do the trick then its a good suggestion to bring it to BB

[madkatz]

Kung magtatanggal ka ng watermarks dapat may pressure at kung matagal na yung watermarks need mo na ng polish like m83 or swirl X para matanggal yun watermarks. Mas adviseable na machine ang gamitin para mas even at consistent ang pag tanggal ng defect compared sa by hand na removal

Up with this one! especially on the even and consistent application.

[madkatz]

Just got home. I dunno if nakakatanggal ng 476S yung ONR cleaning QD dilution or talagang grabe lang ang panahon ngayon.

I applied a 2nd layer of 476S nung Sunday, kahapon ok pa siya mag-bead, nung pagkauwi ko, super dumi, so ginamit ko lang ONR cleaning QD pang linis, yun lang ginawa ko.

Kanina namang umaga umulan mahina lang. Tapos natuyuan yung vios ng tubig ulan sa hood roof and trunk so may watermarks. Tinira ko ng ONR cleaning QD yung trunk, tanggal naman pero parang nag etch kapag pinupunasan ko ulit.

Tapos kaninang hapon nung malakas na ulan di na siya nagbebead (roof hood trunk). Super dumi ulit ngayon. Tinry ko ulit ngayon i-hose down pero wala na talaga beading.

Ang bilis mawala ng 476S ko

Aww sad to hear that, hmmm the only possible explanation i could think of would be that there wasn't enough lubrication for ONR to remove the dirt, did you try to use is as a waterless wash? because if you're using the QD solution it should be very slick and slippery but if you removed it the wrong way then you might actually have scraped off the 476, but 476 should not be easily removed since mine lasts a long time, tell you what, why don't you tag along one of these days when we have a detailing session and have my BF put it on.

[madkatz]

nice color sir! danda danda tignan niyan sa road.

Sorry i didn't notice you already answered the questions with great detail, i was checking people's reply by the people's name who asked not always by order so i skipped your posts only to read it after and see you already answered it hehe again my apologies.

[madkatz]

grabeng trapik sa maynila. just got home.

detail na!

*bombitmd: must be nice to have an acupuncture session after ng detailing na manu mano. hehe. I'm not yet an MD sir, but I'd like to become one

hahaha yup yup very traffic! i got stuck for nearly 5 hours, and yeah tomorrow is a great day to detail since its a holiday, except if you're going to Pnoy's inauguration.

[madkatz]

Di matatanggal ng ONR yang collinite. Yung Citrus Based degreaser ko nga hirap tanggaln yung collinite waxes sa applicator pads at foam pads. Baka di maganda yung pag bond ng collinite sa surface ng paint mo kaya madali matanggal di maganda kapit niya

Up with this one, even degreasers have a hard time removing collinite waxes so it might really be the way you used the ONR or something thats also very possible is acid rain, long term exposure can really reduce wax durability and beading, i mean its also the first time i saw my multiple sealant and wax protection show any sign of giving up on me, its been months and its always maintained its beading and shine except this week, its like its been raining vinegar or something, its one of the few times i saw water mark mineral deposits on my paint thats not removed with washing!

[madkatz]

Are these kinds of brushes available here? Or any close substitute?

Just get any high quality paint brush and it works just as well for the interior, if its for the exterior there's this one brand i forgot but its used for painting walls but its soo fine it actually works better than some of the detail brushes i bough from the US

[rico_g]

can Mom's Scratch remover be used to remove water marks? cheaper kasi than scratchx/ swirl x... baka effective naman when used with an ROP.

Also, I have a B&D KP600 ROP... does anyone here have that unit? if so, san kau bumubili ng bonnets para dun?

Lastly? is it advisable to use ROP when applying wax? may applicator bonnet kc ung ROP ko, I'm using it to apply step 2 and collinite.

Thanks ulit sa lahat ng masipag sumagot!

[Chikselog]

*madkatz
If I find time, maybe I'll drop by next time, syempre if may time din kayo hehe.

Anyway ma'am, the Collinite is still alive! :clap:

I thought tanggal na talaga siya pero after I washed it, aba it beads like crazy again! Hehehe. It seems that nawawala yung beading nya kapag sobrang dumi na at puno ng putik. Maski windows ko na may Rain Clear nabawasan ang beading nung marumi pa.

Ito po pics! After washing I used ONR Cleaning QD then OGE.

[renzo_d10]

Grabe. Mas makintab pa yata yan migs kaysa sa salamin ng bahay namin eh. :rofl:

[Chikselog]

Hehe di naman. Sana pala black na lang kinuha namin, malamang di ko titigilan i-wax yun.

[jmpet626]

Are these kinds of brushes available here? Or any close substitute?

Boars Hair brush ata yang ganyan. Di ko nagagamit masyado yang brush ko pag nag lilinis lang ako ng aircon vents.

[jmpet626]

can Mom's Scratch remover be used to remove water marks? cheaper kasi than scratchx/ swirl x... baka effective naman when used with an ROP.

Also, I have a B&D KP600 ROP... does anyone here have that unit? if so, san kau bumubili ng bonnets para dun?

Lastly? is it advisable to use ROP when applying wax? may applicator bonnet kc ung ROP ko, I'm using it to apply step 2 and collinite.

Thanks ulit sa lahat ng masipag sumagot!

I modify mo na lang siya with velcro straps para mag accept ng buffing pads. Di kasi maganda yung free bonnet ng black and decker. Pwedeng pwede siya mag apply ng Waxes, sealants, glazes. laking time masasave mo by using a ROP. Yung Mothers california gold step 1 to 3 ng mothers pwede by BnD ROP lang. Kulang nga lang power niya para maka remove ng oxidation at swirls although pwede niya ma hide ang mga swirls at scratches kung gumamit ka ng glazes












Eto yung article ni Mike Philipps about wax spreaders

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...-spreader.html

[beeco]

Sorry i didn't notice you already answered the questions with great detail, i was checking people's reply by the people's name who asked not always by order so i skipped your posts only to read it after and see you already answered it hehe again my apologies.

no worries ma'm!

grabe talaga ulan ngayon. kakawash ko lang kaninang umaga.. umulan ngayong hapon.. errr.. nagdedegrade na ang beading ng 476.
kailangan ko na ata talaga ng covered parking.

[PSI]

Actually i would still recommend buying Step 1 2 and 3 either Moms of Megs for that matter for the following reasons

Step 1 pre wax cleaner - while it is true that claying can remove any layer of protection from the paint i don't think you would always want to clay your car right? so this is where pre-wax cleaner steps in, lets say you're like me that seals and waxes my car multiple times 3 to 4 times a year, lets just make it 4 times a year, and after the first quarter of your complete claying with Step1 to 3 and multiple layers, and the paint is still smooth, are you gonna clay the whole car to slap on layers of sealants and waxes again? using this product makes that easier.

Step 2 - this depends on whether its mothers or megs, if its moms step 2 then you could always use this for filling and adding gloss to the paint whenever needed, and for megs, although it doesn't fill as much as mothers, megs step 2 can produce a better shine IMO for darker cars.

Step 3 - i don't think you would be waxing each week or every 2 weeks with a collinite right? thats gonna run through your pocket really soon, so why don't you just use this for those inbetween wax sessions and save a little more money by using a good wax to boost you existing main/protection wax.

I modify mo na lang siya with velcro straps para mag accept ng buffing pads. Di kasi maganda yung free bonnet ng black and decker. Pwedeng pwede siya mag apply ng Waxes, sealants, glazes. laking time masasave mo by using a ROP. Yung Mothers california gold step 1 to 3 ng mothers pwede by BnD ROP lang. Kulang nga lang power niya para maka remove ng oxidation at swirls although pwede niya ma hide ang mga swirls at scratches kung gumamit ka ng glazes



Eto yung article ni Mike Philipps about wax spreaders

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...-spreader.html

epepepep!!! boss where did you get that nice looking unano machine?????

*chik type mo ba black??? wait nuod muna ko LFS ng ECLIPSE...... then I'll post something...HEHEHEHEHE!! BLACK.... HMMMMMM

[weszt]

Yes m20 is the synthetic sealant, there's a better and more durable version which is the m21, you could also opt for that. As for making silvers look deep, that would require a really well polished and finished paint to make it stand out.

Yes after clay you could start using Megs UC followed with a very mild polish to remove compounding swirls, yes 8 hours is enough based on experience when it come to Megs sealants although this is based on a sunny day hehe, if its a little rainy better stick to 24 hours cure time, and yes you could slap on UQW after but i would recommend you slap on something thats a real wax not a spray wax so that paint is protected longer.

*madkatz

yes i will use the m21 medyo mahal pero tingin ko sulit naman. my problema ako tiningnan ko ung stock ng polishing dito sa sg wala silang stock...huhuhu pwede ko ba ipalit yung AG super resin polish or AG ultra deep shine? WHich is better? after ko gamitin ung compound then seal then polish then wax na diba? hehehe para sure


saka my nakita ako dito na B & D na 152MM random orbit waxer/polisher 60W ung power nya. ok ba ito sa newbie? price nya dito converted na is around 2600pesos....


prices ng mga nacanvass ko dito sa sg...hehe


M21 473ml = 1274 pesos
Megs Ultimate Compund 450 ml = 708 pesos
Megs Swirl X 450ml = 644 pesos
megs color X 473ml = 670 pesos
Megs NXT gen carwash 1.89L = 670 pesos
Megs Nxt Gen Tech Wax 2.0 532ml = 1380 pesos ( paste same )
Megs Clay kit includes 16oz quik detailer, 2 clay bar 50grams each, 4oz sample of cleaner wax and supreme shine microfiber. = 1617 pesos
Megs headlight restoration = 1836 pesos
Megs cleaner wax = 570pesos
Megs Gold Class Carnauba plus = 1050 pesos
Megs quiik detailer = 455 pesos

Autosol = 171 pesos

Autoglym Super Resin Polish 325ml = 702 pesos
Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine 500ml = 1468 pesos


any comments mga tsikot member sa prices? mas mura ba?hehe

[Starex_Gold]

Chikselog: Ano ba tama na yan araw araw umuulan tapos linis ka ng linis. hehehehe

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