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[Starex_Gold]

Hindi agad ako nag shampoo.. hose down lang muna ng water..

[madkatz]

*jagtemp: it depends on how dirty the car is, if it has mud splatters near the wheels then i do a quick shampoo and quick dry technique, i have a shampoo solution on a bucket and a drum of water on standby for that and a pressure washer rigged with a soft mist gun works wonders for me, and then i use Microtex Elite to dry it down i could wash the car and dry it in less than 30 minutes, but if the car doesn't have that much mud splatters and dirt stuck on the paint, i just hose down the car and use a QD along with the drying.

[PSI]

*jagtemp: it depends on how dirty the car is, if it has mud splatters near the wheels then i do a quick shampoo and quick dry technique, i have a shampoo solution on a bucket and a drum of water on standby for that and a pressure washer rigged with a soft mist gun works wonders for me, and then i use Microtex Elite to dry it down i could wash the car and dry it in less than 30 minutes, but if the car doesn't have that much mud splatters and dirt stuck on the paint, i just hose down the car and use a QD along with the drying.

+1....this is what I do....after drying....finish it with OGE

[RustyXIII]

Can you layer on top of cleaner wax? Is it durable enough to act as a base? More specifically, I'm planning to layer NanoGlos on top of TW Carnauba Cleaner Wax.

[Starex_Gold]

Pwede po sir!

[silverrain]

sorry noob question ano po yung OGE?

[jmpet626]

wow you went as far as using Souveran hahaha, how would you compare souveran with 915 in terms of gloss?

Sa silky Bronze same shine sila ng 915 but sobrang dali i buff off ng souveran. Hindi sya ganun kalakas mag bead ng water compared sa 915. Sa durability siguro mas matagal ang 915 so ginawa kong LSP is yung 915

[rockstar5k]

*SG, tumbukin mo yung raon(g.puyat). right turn sa ongpin. then look for alonzo street. dami power tools dun. i think its after tomas mapua st....kung may dala ka sasakyan, pwede ka mag-park sa isetann recto para safe...yung nga lang medyo challenging magpark dun.

*madkatz, i-hand application ko po yung 915/476, tapos buff-off with a rotary. i also would be planning to do detailing na rin if i have the rotary. meron kasi ako old skul ford laser. medyo makapal ang clear coat nia kaya pwedeng-pwede guinea pig. anyway, knowing that honda paint needs filling, i might settle for a kp600 and the like. Thanks po.

[azzkkr2600]

if i decide to use the black&decker kp600 as the buffing machine only (wax is hand application), do i need to customize it i.e. place new backing plate (what size?) with velcro? how about its pads, do i need lc pads or dupont pads? what sizes and type of pads do i need?

[azzkkr2600]

*jagtemp: it depends on how dirty the car is, if it has mud splatters near the wheels then i do a quick shampoo and quick dry technique, i have a shampoo solution on a bucket and a drum of water on standby for that and a pressure washer rigged with a soft mist gun works wonders for me, and then i use Microtex Elite to dry it down i could wash the car and dry it in less than 30 minutes, but if the car doesn't have that much mud splatters and dirt stuck on the paint, i just hose down the car and use a QD along with the drying.

+1....this is what I do....after drying....finish it with OGE

* sir edwin / ma'am madkatz: is the Elite still available? how about ONR? magsked kami pumunta uli ni psi, chikselog, dotnetmatt, scharnhost, golti, beeco, rockstar, etc to buy some products again.

do u have buffer pads (available for the customized kp600) that i can use after applying wax (either 476s or nanoglos) by hand?

* psi: sir galing talaga ng OGE! pati nanosliq galing sa beading! panalo!

* silverrain: OGE is Optimum Gloss Enhancer. this is a QD like the microtex nanosliq and mothers showtime. nanosliq has the best beading effect though.

[azzkkr2600]

*SG, tumbukin mo yung raon(g.puyat). right turn sa ongpin. then look for alonzo street. dami power tools dun. i think its after tomas mapua st....kung may dala ka sasakyan, pwede ka mag-park sa isetann recto para safe...yung nga lang medyo challenging magpark dun.

*madkatz, i-hand application ko po yung 915/476, tapos buff-off with a rotary. i also would be planning to do detailing na rin if i have the rotary. meron kasi ako old skul ford laser. medyo makapal ang clear coat nia kaya pwedeng-pwede guinea pig. anyway, knowing that honda paint needs filling, i might settle for a kp600 and the like. Thanks po.

* rockstar: how much ang B&D KP600 kaya dyan sir? i remember na kelangan yata na palitan yun backing plate na may velcro + LC pads (what size and type?).. so malaki din ba aabutin at better option ang makita 9227c or B&D wp1300? lito na ako sa pagpili ng buffing machine..

[madkatz]

Can you layer on top of cleaner wax? Is it durable enough to act as a base? More specifically, I'm planning to layer NanoGlos on top of TW Carnauba Cleaner Wax.

Yup especially if its Nano Glos, i like using Nano Glos as a beauty wax because i find more waxes bond to it without causing problems, i guess because it doesn't finish off oily.

[madkatz]

sorry noob question ano po yung OGE?

Optimum Gloss Enhancer

[madkatz]

Sa silky Bronze same shine sila ng 915 but sobrang dali i buff off ng souveran. Hindi sya ganun kalakas mag bead ng water compared sa 915. Sa durability siguro mas matagal ang 915 so ginawa kong LSP is yung 915

oh i see, can you try to compare it with your jazz? im in the notion that souveran doesn't vary that much from 915, the only noticeable difference would be that souveran has more reflectivity and 915 has more depth and this is barely noticeable and only on dark cars.

[madkatz]

*SG, tumbukin mo yung raon(g.puyat). right turn sa ongpin. then look for alonzo street. dami power tools dun. i think its after tomas mapua st....kung may dala ka sasakyan, pwede ka mag-park sa isetann recto para safe...yung nga lang medyo challenging magpark dun.

*madkatz, i-hand application ko po yung 915/476, tapos buff-off with a rotary. i also would be planning to do detailing na rin if i have the rotary. meron kasi ako old skul ford laser. medyo makapal ang clear coat nia kaya pwedeng-pwede guinea pig. anyway, knowing that honda paint needs filling, i might settle for a kp600 and the like. Thanks po.

ohh i see for that you would need a Megs beige or LC black pad, just be sure to spritz some QD on the panel when removing it so you don't scratch the paint and always check every after panel if its clean, and don't try to remove caked on wax. Hehe nothings beats old school cars paint!

[mf051404]

Yup especially if its Nano Glos, i like using Nano Glos as a beauty wax because i find more waxes bond to it without causing problems, i guess because it doesn't finish off oily.

How about nanoSLIQ ma'am? since you mentioned it has cleaning properties, it can then be used as a pre-wax cleaner then topped with say collinite 476s (because I'm thinking of the spray wax characteristic you mentioned, 476 might not stick to it thus reducing 476 durability)? or nanoGLOS then colli476s is better?

Since I have nanoGLOS, nanoSLIQ, Collinite 476s, which sequence is better (of course after washing) in your opinion?
1. NanoGLOS -> nanoSLIQ -> collinite 476s
2. nanoGLOS -> collinite 476s -> nanoSLIQ (for maintenance)
3. nanoSLIQ -> collinites 476S (since first two might be overkill)
4. collinite 476S -> nanoSLIQ (same reason as #3)

[madkatz]

if i decide to use the black&decker kp600 as the buffing machine only (wax is hand application), do i need to customize it i.e. place new backing plate (what size?) with velcro? how about its pads, do i need lc pads or dupont pads? what sizes and type of pads do i need?

Well for me the only thing that the kp600 can do is spread products like waxes, glazes and polishes but for me the most you could get would be just very light buffing, so yeah my kp600 is my official wax spreader, you really can't get any decent correction out of it and if you use it you might not be able to work your polish completely.

Yes you have to adopt its backing plate, the backing plate it has doesn't come with velcro so you have to attach and super glue velcro strips to it before you can attach pads, as for the pads the best i've used with it are 6.5 LC white and black pads and Megs 6.5 yellow and beige pads which for the megs pads isn't available locally.

[silverrain]

moved this question in another thread sorry....

[madkatz]

* sir edwin / ma'am madkatz: is the Elite still available? how about ONR? magsked kami pumunta uli ni psi, chikselog, dotnetmatt, scharnhost, golti, beeco, rockstar, etc to buy some products again.

do u have buffer pads (available for the customized kp600) that i can use after applying wax (either 476s or nanoglos) by hand?

* psi: sir galing talaga ng OGE! pati nanosliq galing sa beading! panalo!

* silverrain: OGE is Optimum Gloss Enhancer. this is a QD like the microtex nanosliq and mothers showtime. nanosliq has the best beading effect though.

Yes the elite is still available, pls let us know what other products from Microtex you are interested in so we could order it from their office and also have them approve of the 10% discount again, oh yeah the prices for the solo towels without packaging is higher because the last time my BF sold them he didn't know that bulk packs no longer have the additional 10% discount and he sold it to you guys with an additional 10% so basically we sold it at a lost hehehe but its ok, im just informing you guys about it now

We could still sell samples sizes of ONR for you guys, just text him when you guys plan on dropping by, you guys might also want to check out Optimum Polish II and Finish II and try it, its a little bit more expensive that most compounds but its a lot safer for beginners, but either way if you guys want the 105/205 combo let us know within the week since the promo ends this week.

As for buffing pads, we don't have that much selections to choose from and most are not for sale since most are for personal use, again we could just order these online, but importing buffing pads can be a little more expensive shippings wise since they cover a huge volume from the box

[mf051404]

As for the interior ceiling, what could be done to clean it myself? Yung "carpet" ceiling kasi nung sasakyan is closely knit (walang himulmul)...tried using a carpet cleaner (yung tipong nagfo-foam then wipe off lang) kaso ang problema is nagkahimulmul na sya. Gusto ko sana malinisan lang sya na hindi maging "hairy" ang appearance nya (yung makinis pa din), meron bang product for this purpose?

BTW yung sasakyan is Nissan XTrail, baka merong may xtrail dito na nakapaglinis na ng kanyang ceiling na hindi naging "hairy" and after effects