Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[madkatz]

*FasTrac:

here are some links that have helped me in getting information regarding rotary polishing when i was just starting, just so you if really want to try rotary polishing and haven't gone through training these links might help you avoid the most common mistakes

Different Polish Aggressiveness

http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-...art-master.htm

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28407

(thanks to Jonjon_u for the link above)

LC Pads aggressiveness and purpose

http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/buff...d-chart-lc.htm

http://www.lakecountrymfg.com/applicationguide/

you could just download the application guide

although i don't agree with gold for jeweling since its too soft and takes a long time to break down.


Different kinds of pads available although most have to be imported

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3by1elw5AXE&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Buffing Pads, Backing Plates and Accessories[/ame]


Very helpful video's that show proper handling and rotary polishing and more from Meguiars Mike Pennington, very funny guy

5 video's all in all

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f8EQNVxxbw&feature=related"]YouTube- Wetsanding part 1 of 5[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38L3UQxXuQA&feature=related"]YouTube- Wetsanding part 2 of 5[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwEyZw-qLPk&feature=related"]YouTube- Wetsanding part 3 of 5[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPIwCgJwPw&feature=related"]YouTube- Wetsanding part 4 of 5[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfVhG-j3CGQ&feature=related"]YouTube- Wetsanding part 5 of 5[/ame]

3 part video from Meguiars also featuring Rod kraft

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9jR_PEmD9E"]YouTube- Meguiar's Detailing Tips - Part 1[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6sT7fyKASA"]YouTube- Meguiar's Detailing Tips - Part 2[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPIfR-0gdz0&feature=PlayList&p=0BF8C2A55A9AE916&playnext =1&playnext_from=PL&index=28"]YouTube- Meguiar's Detailing Tips - Part 3[/ame]

Other video's

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j47nsVb_sXI"]YouTube- Paint Correction with a Rotary Buffer Part 1 of 2[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODsgX-9vwCA&feature=channel"]YouTube- Paint Correction with a Rotary Buffer Part 2 of 2[/ame]

But like what Mike Pennington said, in no way that after you see the video or use a rotary for the first time does it make you learn how to do it, I would highly recommend you try using the polisher on old paint panels, you could these from body shops and once you get results then maybe you could try it on an old car, thats what i did i had my friends old cars brought over and used that when i was getting better results, But don't get me wrong im not discouraging you, getting the initiative to learn is nice and once you learn it thoroughly you would start getting fantastic results

Hope this helps everyone thats interested in learning how to polish via Rotary polisher

[madkatz]

So i wasn't able to sleep well since my uncle from Australia is arriving and my car looks horrible, im here stuck in our Caloocan office/home then while i was writing up about rotary polishing i started to think about detailing my car and hopefully get to at least lessen the visual horror that happened to my car but then all my good and special waxes and polishes are in our QC home and my Makita Detailing kit with both the Moms and Megs wax and polish kits are also there since we just had a major detail session in our QC home at the end of january, when i just remembered that i actually have my first ever BnD wp1300 Detailing kit here! I brought it out and to my delight i still have ketchup bottles full of different polishes but mostly Megs. So off i went to the revo and tried to do the best i can, with some really worn out foam pads.

While i was at it i also did some 50/50 shots of swirl corrections i did on the undamaged paint panels.







End result with camera focused on the paint texture




this one focused on the light

[madkatz]

Here are pictures of the scratched and damaged parts that i tried to polish and hopefully lessen the eyesore















Im just sooo happy that i had that car painted with PPG Ceramiclear, i requested it to have a thicker clear coat though, that it was tough enough to lessen the damage to the car, i was actually surprised to see that i was able to buff off most of the scratches, well not really buff them off but minimize their appearance. Its my first time to work on a ceramiclear clear coat and i will say that they really are tough, not that im trying to advertise ok? i guess the good side would be that they are tough against scratches and these things but the downside is that its toughness also makes it hard to buff off paint imperfections, i even had to use Megs 85 Diamond Cut on the deeper damaged parts for the first pass and then follow it up with Megs 84.

[madkatz]

The results after buffing the damaged parts was









Not too bad considering that its no longer that much noticeable and from afar you can barely see it

Too bad i can't do anything for the bottom fiberglass part since the scratch is already too deep, that part got scratched with the tricycles reinforcement bar the same one that actually punctured my fiberglass in the earlier pictures i posted.

Procedures i did was

1. Wash the car with BB shampoo
2. Remove asphalt using kerosene
3. Re-wash the car with BB shampo
4. Clay the car using soft99 dark clay
5. Re-wash the car using NXT shampoo
6. Rinse the car
7. Dry the car using Microtex Elite
8. Tape the non painted parts

Step 1 - LC yellow pad, misted with Megs Last Touch for priming, and Megs 85 Diamond Cut

Step 2 - LC yellow pad, misted with Megs Last Touch for priming, and Megs 84 Compound Power Cleaner

Step 3 - SM Arnolds Cool It Green polishing pad, misted with Moms Showtime, and Megs 83

Step 4 - SM Arnolds Cool It Black finishing pad, primed with Megs 80 Speed glaze spread thinly all over the pad, and Megs 80 Speed glaze

Picture of pads, my LC yellow curved is already worn down this is nearing its end and would have to be replaced really soon, on the picture also is SM Arnolds Cool It Green Polishing Pad, its a very nice cheap alternative if you don't want to spend as much for Megs and LC 8 inch pads



And this is the wp1300 with the included velcro backing plate



Sorry for the really crappy grammar and spelling, i know i've made a lot of typographical errors, im so tired after detaling my car, i've been detailing since 1am and stopped at around 5am and im already sleepy i just want to finish all these posts since i'll be busy being my uncle and auntie's chaperone for the next 2 weeks

Ok thats it for now, im going to hit the hay stack

[jonjon_u]

I just got to read what happened to madkatz. Grabe talaga ang ibang mga motorista dito sa atin. I hope no one got hurt.

At any rate, it seems she did a good turnaround insofar as the paint defects are concerned.

[Chikselog]

I knew it, you can get rid of those scratches without breaking a sweat. GREAT JOB!

Reminds me of the scratches on our vios . Can it be removed or have its appearance reduced by repeatedly applying SwirlX? Ayaw ko na kasi bumili ng separate pa na ScratchX 2.0 kasi ang mahal. Medyo nag-iingat na ako ngayon sa mga pinagbibibili ko dahil gusto ko magtipid hehe.

BTW, I haven't taken a picture of the dent on the door. I'll try to post tomorrow since I'm really tired now. There has been an event in our college and I was like standing the whole day.

Question: Dent ba talaga tawag doon? Basta na- "kutusan" yung body kaya lumubog ng onti and kitang kita na hindi na pantay (as in straight line) yung that part ng body.

[madkatz]

*Jon: no one got hurt thankfully, i have a questions BTW if you don't mind

1. If im planning on detailing my car with Klasse twins + Collinite 915, and i want to incorporate a filling glaze like, M09/M80/PB Blackhole/ 3m IHG/ Moms Step2, when do i apply that? in between the Klasse Twins? or before the AIO?

2. If i apply the glazes before AIO and have successfully concealed the swirls won't AIO reveal the swirls again after?

3. One last, of all the glazes that you've used which one is best in terms of filling and concealing swirls? I'm a little scared of polishing the innova due to its very thin paint.

Thanks in advance.

[FasTrac]

*FasTrac:

here are some links that have helped me in getting information regarding rotary polishing when i was just starting, just so you if really want to try rotary polishing and haven't gone through training these links might help you avoid the most common mistakes

Different Polish Aggressiveness

http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-...art-master.htm

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28407

(thanks to Jonjon_u for the link above)

LC Pads aggressiveness and purpose

http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/buff...d-chart-lc.htm

http://www.lakecountrymfg.com/applicationguide/

you could just download the application guide

although i don't agree with gold for jeweling since its too soft and takes a long time to break down.


Different kinds of pads available although most have to be imported

YouTube- Buffing Pads, Backing Plates and Accessories


Very helpful video's that show proper handling and rotary polishing and more from Meguiars Mike Pennington, very funny guy

5 video's all in all

YouTube- Wetsanding part 1 of 5

YouTube- Wetsanding part 2 of 5

YouTube- Wetsanding part 3 of 5

YouTube- Wetsanding part 4 of 5

YouTube- Wetsanding part 5 of 5

3 part video from Meguiars also featuring Rod kraft

YouTube- Meguiar's Detailing Tips - Part 1

YouTube- Meguiar's Detailing Tips - Part 2

YouTube- Meguiar's Detailing Tips - Part 3

Other video's

YouTube- Paint Correction with a Rotary Buffer Part 1 of 2

YouTube- Paint Correction with a Rotary Buffer Part 2 of 2

But like what Mike Pennington said, in no way that after you see the video or use a rotary for the first time does it make you learn how to do it, I would highly recommend you try using the polisher on old paint panels, you could these from body shops and once you get results then maybe you could try it on an old car, thats what i did i had my friends old cars brought over and used that when i was getting better results, But don't get me wrong im not discouraging you, getting the initiative to learn is nice and once you learn it thoroughly you would start getting fantastic results

Hope this helps everyone thats interested in learning how to polish via Rotary polisher

*madkatz, you flooded me with too many infos...thanks, this will help improve my skill on paint detailing. BTW, you got PMs.

[madkatz]

Guys check out your nearest Blade Outlets

MicroMagic has 2 new items thats worth its value

Item #1: 3 pack MF cloth, smaller than the usual 16X16inch standard MF cloth this one is at around 12X12 only, it comes in 3 different colors per pack, each pack has a green, orange, and blue cloth which would be good for color coded MF cloth usage, you could dedicate which cloth colors does what as to avoid cross contamination, its thickness would be a lot thicker than most cheap MF cloth alternatives like High gear of Robinsons, its a little thicker than I-Clean my current favorite cheap MF towel brand and its also a little thicker than Microtex Ultra, i know the size is smaller but hey 3 pcs for 88 pesos? i think that would be a good deal hehe, i've tried it already when i got some earlier samples and it does a decent job of removing wax and washing the car without scratching it, but be sure to remove the tag though as with all MF cloth's

Item #2: 4 pack Foam Applicator, its foam applicators are a lot thinner as compared to SM Arnolds and Meguiars Foam applicators and it has a different density, its slightly tougher and its construction isn't as perfect as the more popular brands in terms of shape, its not perfectly flat, but when i got the early samples and used it, it still does a good job in spreading waxes, its a little thin though so you have to go easy on the pressure but the good side with thin is that it doesn't absorb much waxes. Think of it as a disposable foam applicator. i tried it on a newly polished paint with some TW Super hard shell ( this is what i use to test for foam scratching ) and it did not scratch the paint.

[madkatz]

Also the Microtex Products are nearly out already so be sure to check out your favorite hardware and automotive stores.

[jmpet626]

ano ba dapat mauna? Mothers Step 3 paste wax + Collinite 845 or baliktad dapat?

[Starex_Gold]

parang mothers muna para mas matagal yung shine nya kasi naka patong yung 845 sa ibabaw

bro post mo yung pic ng Tucson nyo pag na detail mo na

[Lanchong]

*madkatz

Thanks for the reply.

Another question:

Do you think mas ok yung paste version ng Moms step 3 kesa sa liquid.

TIA!

[jmpet626]

parang mothers muna para mas matagal yung shine nya kasi naka patong yung 845 sa ibabaw

bro post mo yung pic ng Tucson nyo pag na detail mo na

Eto sir 845 lang parang bitin ung shine. Post ko ung pics pag na paste wax + 845 ko ulit.

[jmpet626]

double post