Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[OyiL]

the PhUV company itself won't stay open if they build "maganda ang design", Japanese quality PhUVs and try to maintain a retail price of P350,000

their production cost per unit will already be more than P350,000 per unit

sa dealers naman, if the PhUV company wants a retail price of P350,000 per unit, they have to sell the PhUV to dealers at below P300,000 in order for the dealer to make money

so for the PhUV company, their production cost should be far below P300,000 for the PhUV to be profitable to them

around P200,000 to P230,000 cost of production per unit

hahaha

how the hell can they build a "maganda ang design", Japanese quality PhUV at around P200,000?

that diehard supporter only thinks of design

puro design

para kang echo ni gh.

gh ikaw ba yan?

yun ang challenge - maganda design na mura. sinabi ko bang meron na naka-solve ng puzzle na yan? ang passion mo ibang klase.

[uls]

ANYONE who looks at it from a business standpoint will arrive at the same conclusion

me and GH arrived at the same conclusion -- a good design, Japanese quality PhUV can't be profitable for the manufacturer and dealers if retailed at P350,000. It's just not possible. The cost alone will be more than P350,000 per unit.

i know you know that too

but since you're a diehard supporter of the PhUV, you do not want to admit that

baka naman maganda point ko kaya sinabi nya yun. who's making kuliglig builders make car? baka speculation nanaman yan a.

how literal can one get?

what i meant was you're a diehard supporter of pinoy vehicle builders (like the other guy)

so you will give this --> to any pinoy-built vehicle

even if it's just a kuliglig

gets mo na?

who saying that its still alive?

^^^

GH meant no car dealer can stay alive if the PhUV retails at P350,000

you gotta work on your comprehension, dude

ang passion mo ibang klase.

what exactly IS my passion, dude?

[ghosthunter]

yun ang challenge - maganda design na mura. sinabi ko bang meron na naka-solve ng puzzle na yan? ang passion mo ibang klase.

Unless you still believe Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, we all know that product quality costs money. So, a P350K "pinoy" vehicle will look like a P350K "pinoy" vehicle, a bunch of japanese surplus parts held together by some acetylene welded sheets of galvanized steel made to look like an american world war two army transport vehicle. LOL!

So, going for the "personal" attack? ... running out of facts to twist?

[romski123]

phuv is still alive boys and girls.

pero iwanan nyo na yung presyong 350k, that's so 2006.

pero yung mga doers nagtatrabaho parin, count on it.

hindi pa rin tumitigil.

pero ok yan uls and gh, nakakaaliw kayo. tuloy nyo lang yan

[OyiL]

ANYONE who looks at it from a business standpoint will arrive at the same conclusion

me and GH arrived at the same conclusion -- a good design, Japanese quality PhUV can't be profitable for the manufacturer and dealers if retailed at P350,000. It's just not possible. The cost alone will be more than P350,000 per unit.

i know you know that too

but since you're a diehard supporter of the PhUV, you do not want to admit that




how literal can one get?

what i meant was you're a diehard supporter of pinoy vehicle builders (like the other guy)

so you will give this --> to any pinoy-built vehicle

even if it's just a kuliglig

gets mo na?




^^^

GH meant no car dealer can stay alive if the PhUV retails at P350,000

you gotta work on your comprehension, dude




what exactly IS my passion, dude?

sabi ko nga buiding ang car that can be as good as the competition with a low price is the challenge e.

i am not a supporter. i'm just very open to the possibility that someone will be able to face the challenge and come out as a winner. positive lang ako.

the kuliglig is not what they were happy about but the guts to help themselves using their own means to overcome a situation. they tried solving their own puzzle.

maybe the car dealer structure is also a puzzel that should be solved.

passion mo? wala lang. pang forums ka lang. hindi ka creative.

[AC]

imho hindi po creative ang mga pro phuv guys... more of hallucinating..

hindi po suntok sa buwan yan... suntok sa neptune

i love filipino made goods...if possible i want to buy local compared to china... but... malabo lang po talaga yang phuv.. hehe

wala talaga tayo foundation... technology, steel industry, engine industry, parts industry..

meron lang natin dito is.. windshield, transmission, electrical harness, computerbox, upholstery, rim makers, engine support makers, tiremakers, abs manufacturers sadly theyre mostly foreign controlled..

and mga important parts wala tayo..

[hein]

phuv is still alive boys and girls.

pero iwanan nyo na yung presyong 350k, that's so 2006.

pero yung mga doers nagtatrabaho parin, count on it.

Hope the quality is not as SHODDY and LAUGHABLE as before.




Tell the MVPMAP to expect a thorough review when it comes out.

[ghosthunter]

phuv is still alive boys and girls.

pero iwanan nyo na yung presyong 350k, that's so 2006.

pero yung mga doers nagtatrabaho parin, count on it.

hindi pa rin tumitigil.

pero ok yan uls and gh, nakakaaliw kayo. tuloy nyo lang yan

Obviously there is new things being done... probably going "ePHUV" to ride on the new fad of electric vehicles like the ejeepney.

[ghosthunter]

imho hindi po creative ang mga pro phuv guys... more of hallucinating..

hindi po suntok sa buwan yan... suntok sa neptune

i love filipino made goods...if possible i want to buy local compared to china... but... malabo lang po talaga yang phuv.. hehe

wala talaga tayo foundation... technology, steel industry, engine industry, parts industry..

meron lang natin dito is.. windshield, transmission, electrical harness, computerbox, upholstery, rim makers, engine support makers, tiremakers, abs manufacturers sadly theyre mostly foreign controlled..


and mga important parts wala tayo..

Exactly. One major important part we can't manufacture in the Philippines is the engine. How can the PHUV be a 100% pinoy vehicle when it doesn't even have a locally built engine?

[uls]

sabi ko nga buiding ang car that can be as good as the competition with a low price is the challenge e.

i am not a supporter. i'm just very open to the possibility that someone will be able to face the challenge and come out as a winner. positive lang ako.

the kuliglig is not what they were happy about but the guts to help themselves using their own means to overcome a situation. they tried solving their own puzzle.

maybe the car dealer structure is also a puzzel that should be solved.

passion mo? wala lang. pang forums ka lang. hindi ka creative.

hahaha

so ikaw creative ka?

e baket lahat puro "puzzle" sayo?

coz you're nothing more than just a cheerleader, an observer of the pinoy auto industry... a guy who goes everytime someone posts a pinoy-built vehicle (exactly like the other guy)

you don't have any solutions to the "puzzle"

you're just waiting for someone else to solve the "puzzle"

"i'm just very open to the possibility that someone will be able to face the challenge and come out as a winner"

if you're so creative, why don't you solve the "puzzle"?

know what?

you can't

you can only go like this -->

pang forums lang ako?

ikaw din eh

hahahaha

[uls]

Originally Posted by romski123
phuv is still alive boys and girls.

pero iwanan nyo na yung presyong 350k, that's so 2006.

pero yung mga doers nagtatrabaho parin, count on it.

hindi pa rin tumitigil.

pero ok yan uls and gh, nakakaaliw kayo. tuloy nyo lang yan

ya nasabi mo na dati ginawa niyo electric nalang yung PhUV

wala kasi kayo local na kalaban sa electric

can't compete with the real pros pag dating sa ordinary motor vehicles

what if may nagparating ng electric CBUs from China na mas mura pa ePhUV and eJeepney?

sa ngayon wala pa talaga market dito for EVs kaya wala pa nagpaparating

thanks to your work in trying to open up an EV market here, if an EV market does grow here, everyone will be importing electric EVs from China

then you'll have competition

[ghosthunter]

Isn't it so ironic that the PHUV is so "representative" of the local PINOY automotive industry?

[AC]

share ko lang po pictures ng china uv... what were going against pag magkaroon na tayo ng phuv..









these is a china vehicle around 5 years ago... gaya gaya ng jap vehicles.. pati interior ginaya..

i came from china last week.. and guess what.. improved na sila.. hindi na sila masyado nangagaya.. and dumami pa manufacturers nila..

why? because they have engine industry. hindi naman buo yan isang company lang may gawa... they purchase from supporting parts industry. and alot of parts they just put together.

this particular model which looks like a pajero gen2.. with a gen3 nose cost around 500t pesos.

id be honest with you... i was very impressed by their vehicle... pag isakay mo ako diyan.. not telling me it is a fake pajero.. i would not know the difference. but una sa lahat... wala tayo kahit ano eh..

we cant just build cars from nothing.. we have to start from something.. like a waterpump.. or generator para umabot sa automotive engine.. kayalang wala tayo niyan.. ubos na factory saatin... pinatay na ng bills sa kuryente.. nung tumaas kuryente saantin.. and tumaas labor.. madami nang umalis na factory and nabawasan na interesado dito.

the only reason i see para mabuhay ang automotive industry sa pilipinas is... pag tinaas ang tax ng siguro 1000% sa imported vehicles hehe.. so most of us cant afford vehicles anymore.. parang martial law.. hehe.. we would have to go to our offices in kuligligs.. hehehe paurong...

[uls]

like i said in another thread, pinoy car builders should at least come up with cars at the quality level of China cars to be taken seriously by pinoy car buyers

sa lagay na yan pinagtatawanan pa ng mga pinoy ang China cars

mataas ang standard ng pinoy car buyers

the day pinoy car builders produce a car* like a Chery or Geely or BYD or Lifan or Great Wall, i will go like this -->

*not imported CKD na inassemble , dapat 100% pinoy built from scratch -- body, powertrain, interior, everything

AND if they can sell it at P350,000 and still make a profit, i'll go like this --> 1000X

hehe

[ghosthunter]

Nearly a decade ago, I was already impressed when I saw chinese brand vehicles like the S-RV on chinese roads.



It is a nice vehicle built on top of a truck type chassis. Build quality was pretty good for vehicle that is essentially a knock-off of the Honda CRV.

we cant just build cars from nothing.. we have to start from something.. like a waterpump.. or generator para umabot sa automotive engine.. kayalang wala tayo niyan.. ubos na factory saatin... pinatay na ng bills sa kuryente.. nung tumaas kuryente saantin.. and tumaas labor.. madami nang umalis na factory and nabawasan na interesado dito.

Lack of political will... the past governments are so afraid to do the hard decisions that would push the country into real progress. Our laws are too "socialized" that it has pulled us back from getting real economic progress.

the only reason i see para mabuhay ang automotive industry sa pilipinas is... pag tinaas ang tax ng siguro 1000% sa imported vehicles hehe.. so most of us cant afford vehicles anymore.. parang martial law.. hehe.. we would have to go to our offices in kuligligs.. hehehe paurong...

If that's the case, we might see people holding on to their 20 to 30 year old Japanese cars... which is still more comfy than riding in kuligligs. Parang Cuba with all those old cars still running on the road.

[OyiL]

Exactly. One major important part we can't manufacture in the Philippines is the engine. How can the PHUV be a 100% pinoy vehicle when it doesn't even have a locally built engine?

100% nanaman. meron bang 100%? wala naman a.

[OyiL]

hahaha

so ikaw creative ka?

e baket lahat puro "puzzle" sayo?

coz you're nothing more than just a cheerleader, an observer of the pinoy auto industry... a guy who goes everytime someone posts a pinoy-built vehicle (exactly like the other guy)

you don't have any solutions to the "puzzle"

you're just waiting for someone else to solve the "puzzle"



if you're so creative, why don't you solve the "puzzle"?

know what?

you can't

you can only go like this -->

pang forums lang ako?

ikaw din eh

hahahaha

totoo yan. i will be a cheerleader if somebody tries....ayan a kahit try lang... baka di ako mag bow sa design pero sa drive nung gagawa....bow ako.

pero yung style mo pang forums lang...di ka aabot kay gh. pero di ako 100% fan ni gh ha. baka akusahan mo nanaman ako.

[uls]

hahahahaha

wala na

napunta na sa personalan

ran out of arguments dun sa topic...

the PhUV was doomed from the start

the PhUV people aimed too high

they tried to run before they could walk

they tried to fly without evolving wings first

the cheerleader above has no more bullets

throwing mud at me nalang

haha

pathetic

[KCMenteryo]

If may mag revive ng PhuV, do you think may bibili? aabot kaya sila ng 30K?

Maybe they should redesign the jeepneys as PHuV's, then phase out all the jeepneys and have a tie up on all backyard assemblers.

Baka umabot pa ng 2K a year.

[ghosthunter]

Maybe they should redesign the jeepneys as PHuV's, then phase out all the jeepneys and have a tie up on all backyard assemblers.

Wishful thinking.

It was difficult enough to get the automotive manufacturers to stand in a "single line" and now you would suggest to get the small backyard assemblers to join in? Herding cats would be much easier.