Why Water Quality Matters

[uls]

dalawang bagay lang yan eh

either nagbebenta siya ng coolant o nagbebenta siya ng radiator

that's how you push a product

first you destroy everything that's out there

radiator overhauling is crap, local replacements are crap, all local coolants are crap (Prestone is crap daw diba? btw, Prestone buys adspace here in tsikot), all water is crap

THEN you introduce your product as the best thing ever

[EVO-V]

Hahaha. I better get out of this thread before I go bonkers.

Have fun people!

*Deprecated applause*

And if ever uls comes up with a salient point that doesn't get him off the misery of the obvious and relevant -he's welcome to join in.

[uls]

If the water is good enough for me to drink, pwede na rin Sa kotse ko yan...


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o shadow, it's not good enough daw

[shadow]

o shadow, it's not good enough daw

I'll just replace the radiator pag nasira...


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[EVO-V]

dalawang bagay lang yan eh

either nagbebenta siya ng coolant o nagbebenta siya ng radiator

that's how you push a product

first you destroy everything that's out there

radiator overhauling is crap, local replacements are crap, all local coolants are crap (Prestone is crap daw diba? btw, Prestone buys adspace here in tsikot), all water is crap

THEN you introduce your product as the best thing ever

If I've ever pushed anything to anyone here please close this thread. Information is being shared freely and you're imputing some malevolent plan?

So what if Prestone is a sponsor? Does it mean we can't talk about its merits and shortcomings?

Ang hirap sa iyo uls, umiiral ang pagkakitid ng utak mo lagi. You're the only one it seems this thread has not helped.

[uls]

I'll just replace the radiator pag nasira...


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i guess kailangan ka bumili ng radiator sa kanya

and his coolant

coz all replacement radiators and coolants out there are crap

[7138]

Sir EVO-V,

After ko mabasa from page 1, para kasing "sala sa init, sala sa lamig" yung mga statements.

ano nalang mairerecommend mo para matapos na and wala ng unnecessary debates.

[uls]

Sir EVO-V,

After ko mabasa from page 1, para kasing "sala sa init, sala sa lamig" yung mga statements.

ano nalang mairerecommend mo para matapos na and wala ng unnecessary debates.

kaya nga eh

ang nakukuha ko sa thread na ito lahat ng motorista sa Pinas mali

mali ang nilalagay na tubig/coolant

mali ang binibiling radiator

mali ang pagpagawa ng radiator

kung mali lahat nagsi-tirik na sana lahat ng sasakyan

[EVO-V]

Sir EVO-V,

After ko mabasa from page 1, para kasing "sala sa init, sala sa lamig" yung mga statements.

ano nalang mairerecommend mo para matapos na and wala ng unnecessary debates.

The information has been presented. What you do with it us up to you.

Walang sala sa init/lamig. The data is objective.

The long life coolants offered by your vehicle manufacturer were already discussed to be a very good choice. Some people prefer a regime of regular maintenance. Some people prefer to use distilled water.

uls suffers from a severe self-esteem problem he'll just need to learn to live with himself without being a burden to the rest of us. He is gifted with the profound ability to derive pleasure from the suffering of others as that places him into a precipice of blissful, however maligned, superiority.

[vinj]

Lowslowbenz, gusto mo ng :popcorn: ?

What i was hoping from this thread was something like the info we get from dvldoc with regard to oil filtration on the other thread, particularly the do's and don'ts of radiator/cooling system maintenance and what are the recommended coolants/mixes. Anyway, we just use a mix of coolant (Peak, OEM, or Prestone) and distilled water and flush it every 40,000kms. Good enough to keep our cars running for many years. And as Shadow mentioned, pag may nasira, palit nalang as they've usually outlived the expected lifespan really once it happens. On some i've also used Water Wetter and Purple Ice but I'll really never notice the difference since our rides are just subject to the usual daily rigors of driving and nothing really extreme such as towing heavy loads or running constantly at high revs.

Si Shadow, Evian water yung nilalagay sa mga Honda niya. :D

[EVO-V]

kaya nga eh

ang nakukuha ko sa thread na ito lahat ng motorista sa Pinas mali

mali ang nilalagay na tubig/coolant

mali ang binibiling radiator

mali ang pagpagawa ng radiator

kung mali lahat nagsi-tirik na sana lahat ng sasakyan

uls, kahit anong thread naman sa iyo may nakikita kang mali. You've just degraded this discussion to your level of self-imposed misery.

[7138]

kaya nga eh

ang nakukuha ko sa thread na ito lahat ng motorista sa Pinas mali

mali ang nilalagay na tubig/coolant

mali ang binibiling radiator

mali ang pagpagawa ng radiator

kung mali lahat nagsi-tirik na sana lahat ng sasakyan

kaya im asking din,
malay talaga natin may solution si sir EVO-V na makakatulong sa lahat,
yun naman yung point diba when creating a thread, ang strong pa nga ng title nya "Why Water Quality Matters".
kasi sa nabasa ko dito, wala pa ako nakikitang clear answer.

[EVO-V]

Lowslowbenz, gusto mo ng :popcorn: ?

What i was hoping from this thread was something like the info we get from dvldoc with regard to oil filtration on the other thread, particularly the do's and don'ts of radiator/cooling system maintenance and what are the recommended coolants/mixes. Anyway, we just use a mix of coolant (Peak, OEM, or Prestone) and distilled water and flush it every 40,000kms. On some rides i've also used Water Wetter and Purple Ice. Good enough to keep our cars running for many years. And as Shadow mentioned, pag may nasira, palit nalang as they've usually outlived the expected lifespan really once it happens.

Si Shadow, Evian water yung nilalagay sa mga Honda niya. :D

sosyal! :D

[lowslowbenz]

Sir EVO-V,

After ko mabasa from page 1, para kasing "sala sa init, sala sa lamig" yung mga statements.

ano nalang mairerecommend mo para matapos na and wala ng unnecessary debates.

Teka!

Ano nga ba? Kanina ka pa tinatanong!

Wala naman kami chem lab sa bahay para malaman yung PPM ng tubig sa gripo. May alam ka ba kung papano i-quantify ang PPM na sinasabi mo kung nasa bahay ka lang? Eh di bumibili nalang kami ng distilled water, tapos sasabihin mo placebo. Kung tanungin ka ng derecho, dadalhin mo lang sa pa-english english na wala naman derechong sagot.

Wag ka magsabi na makitid ang ulo ng mga tao dito, hindi mo kilala ang mga yan.

* Primo.

Re: Evian, sa Benz pwede ...... Sa Vios, wag baka ma-void ang warranty

[EVO-V]

kaya im asking din,
malay talaga natin may solution si sir EVO-V na makakatulong sa lahat,
yun naman yung point diba when creating a thread, ang strong pa nga ng title nya "Why Water Quality Matters".
kasi sa nabasa ko dito, wala pa ako nakikitang clear answer.

7138 the solution I am providing is knowledge. No product endorsements whatsoever.

lowslowbenz seems to have been irked when I said you don't really need to use distilled water. The simplest choice is that you don't use hard water and complement it with a coolant. That minimizes deposits. Done.

uls is just upset with himself all the time.

[uls]

Si Shadow, Evian water yung nilalagay sa mga Honda niya. :D

oh no!! not Evian!

it has minerals no?

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Si Shadow, Evian water yung nilalagay sa mga Honda niya. :D

oh no!! not Evian!

it has minerals no?

[7138]

The information has been presented. What you do with it us up to you.

Walang sala sa init/lamig. The data is objective.

The long life coolants offered by your vehicle manufacturer were already discussed to be a very good choice. Some people prefer a regime of regular maintenance. Some people prefer to use distilled water.
.

noted

so yun naman pala, its up to us padin.

okei na ako fellow tsikot members, i rest my case.

[stickers]

baka po dapat ionized alkaline water + coolant?

[EVO-V]

Teka!

Ano nga ba? Kanina ka pa tinatanong!

Wala naman kami chem lab sa bahay para malaman yung PPM ng tubig sa gripo. May alam ka ba kung papano i-quantify ang PPM na sinasabi mo kung nasa bahay ka lang? Eh di bumibili nalang kami ng distilled water, tapos sasabihin mo placebo. Kung tanungin ka ng derecho, dadalhin mo lang sa pa-english english na wala naman derechong sagot.

Wag ka magsabi na makitid ang ulo ng mga tao dito, hindi mo kilala ang mga yan.

Eh kung ganun yung mga hirit eh ano pa bang ang pinapahiwatig ng pagkatao nila?

If you want to use distilled water you are free to do so. Anong problema kung ayaw mo? You want me to affirm you when its a needless expense in most cases? Here we are clearing up misconceptions and you somehow find offense in finding out that what you think was right wasn't necessary?

Kung tubig poso naman eh di maghanap ka ng tubig gripo.

Gusto mo sabihin ko na ok lang iyan at pare-pareho naman ang kalidad ng tubig kung saan ka magpunta? Kung suspetsa mo na hard ang water sa lugar mo, ie. hirap kang magpabula ng sabon, eh gumamit ka na ng bottled water.

There is a problem with the way people think and how manufacturers have approached this particular issue somehow its suddenly a commercial motivation behind all this.

Yeah, use your radiators properly, fill them up with good quality water, maintain your systems with long life coolants, watch out for shoddy designs, really commercially motivated.

Maybe that's advise you should be dispensing elsewhere.

[lowslowbenz]

SM distilled water lang nilalagay ko sa mga Benz. And I flush it every 6 months, I don't use coolant.

Ni minsan, hindi ako nag-overheat, tirik ang araw tanghaling tapat sa Coastal, sa Aguinaldo, sa Baclaran, sa EDSA, sa Makati.