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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    If the PN's would be used as a tax credit, expect another scam in the making...magsusulputan ang mga fake TCC's or fake PN's (to be used as a basis for legit TCC's). Sometimes kasi, yung creativity ng Pinoy, sa maling intensyon napupunta.

    I wonder if our government can emulate the British model, free quality health care for all, rich or poor.
    Pero, sana naman, magsimula ang tulong ng ating gobyerno para sa mga taxpayers,- kasi sila ang unang pinapakinabangan ng ating gobyerno (at hindi pasanin...).....

    3707:seesaw:

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    #52
    ok nga sa uk n france pati canada, free quality healthcare...lahat libre walang binabayad ang pasyente kahit sentimo...sarap magretire dun hehe

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    #53
    Which is why magandang panoorin yung latest film ni Michael Moore, SickO.

    He criticizes the American model of providing managed healthcare, kasi private medical insurance companies ang prime movers, instead of the government. He said that the US is the only 1st World country where healthcare is primarily managed by private HMOs, instead of the government. Profit tuloy takes centerstage.

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    #54
    Right, Majority of hospital has a charity ward with the aide of Social Service even Phil Charity Sweepstakes are always ready to help. If you have a card (like here in St. Luke’s, we call it SS patients) everytime you need to have a check up or even need an admission / confinement, as low as 5% lang ang babayaran mo no matter kung daang libo or million abutin ang bill mo, mapa emergency man yan o hindi. – HANDA KA.
    Ito ay kung: matyaga kang mag apply at pumila habang ikaw ay walang ginagawa noon bilang paghahanda kapag nagkasakit ka at kailanganin mo ang serbisyo ng ospital. The problem is a lot of people ignores it. Bahala na mamaya or bukas. The last thing is PRIDE.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by lolo pepe View Post
    it's unfair to the private hospitals to be forced to accept promissory notes which the patients have no intention of honoring. it will also encourage the patients to abuse this, since they are sure the hospitals will not run after them due to the tedious legal process involved.

    in addition to the promissory notes, pwede kayang mag ask ng "collateral" (land titles, vehicle OR/CR, insurance policies, etc.) ang mga hospital before releasing the patients? this way, me assurance, kahit katiting, na babalik ang pasyente para magbayad at mabawi yung collateral nila.
    We already accept collateral. A lot of rusty old cars and appliances. Kawawa nga yung may-ari ng collateral, pero the resale or pawnshop value of these items won't often cover the bills.

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    RE: socialized healthcare... Canada has the money for it, so they can do it. Americans? Any time they're forced to pay more taxes to take care of other people, they groan and grumble. Never mind the fact that free socialized healthcare would be available to everyone.

    The dollar drives America. It's both a blessing (lots of business, lots of capital generated, lots of big hospitals) and a curse (witness how cost-cutting HMOs managed to drive many doctors out of business (my uncle was one of them) without actually providing the best healthcare... IMHO, HMO = overpriced medical insurance).

    The Philippines? Consider that a huge chunk of our budget is tied up in foreign debt, another big chunk is tied up in keeping our congressmen happy, and another is tied up keeping the military out of the poorhouse, it's understandable that public healthcare is so poor.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    We already accept collateral. A lot of rusty old cars and appliances. Kawawa nga yung may-ari ng collateral, pero the resale or pawnshop value of these items won't often cover the bills.

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    RE: socialized healthcare... Canada has the money for it, so they can do it. Americans? Any time they're forced to pay more taxes to take care of other people, they groan and grumble. Never mind the fact that free socialized healthcare would be available to everyone.

    The dollar drives America. It's both a blessing (lots of business, lots of capital generated, lots of big hospitals) and a curse (witness how cost-cutting HMOs managed to drive many doctors out of business (my uncle was one of them) without actually providing the best healthcare... IMHO, HMO = overpriced medical insurance).

    The Philippines? Consider that a huge chunk of our budget is tied up in foreign debt, another big chunk is tied up in keeping our congressmen happy, and another is tied up keeping the military out of the poorhouse, it's understandable that public healthcare is so poor.
    And add to that the ever growing population of poor folks, the migration of healthcare professionals...

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    #57
    It's sad nga... a lot of doctors are leaving to work as nurses... a lot of nurses are leaving to work as... heheh... nurses... therapists? Almost all of my friends from my original course are in the US already.

    But what can you do? Therapists here don't earn much better than regular salaried workers, and need to work at two or three clinics at a time to make decent wage. Nurses get paid squat.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #58
    ganito na lang gawin ni villar, payag kaya siya na magbigay ng mga libreng bahay sa mga pinapatayo niya mga subdivision then ang ibabayad is promissory notes?

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    #59
    eh kung gov't din mag subsidize sa mga PN, eh di bakit hinde na lang nila improved yun mga gov't hospital, kaya naman kasi pumupunta sa mga private hospital mga tao kasi kulang sa mga gamit mga gov't hospital....

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    #60
    Eh kung PN ang pambayad ng pasyente sa hospital, tapos the next day sampahin nya ng medical malpractice suit?

    Hehe doble panalo!

    Dapat mga hospital maglagay nalang ng sign:

    Before check-in please have promissory note signed by your friendly co-guarantor, Sen. Manny Villar.

    Sabihin kay Manny na free campaign materials ito... malay nyo kumagat.

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