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  1. Join Date
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    #31
    not to sound callous here pero paano ang sa duktor? the suggestion is good for the hospital side pero paano ang sa duktor? what some people might not know is that doctors put out a lot of money so that they can practice in a hospital: stocks sa hospital, right to practice, payment sa secretary, association dues, electricity and water; hence, may mga duktor na malaki ang debt para makapag-practice. kung puro promissory note din ang sa duktor, paano niya mababayaran ang mga ito, much less earn a living?

    mukhang inevitable na ata talaga ang tinatawag na "medical holocaust."

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Papayag ba ang government na yung mga pinirmahang promissory notes ng mga patients ang pangbayad sa income taxes ng mga private hospitals? Sino ba yang mga authors ng law na yan?
    si Manny Villar and Pia Cayetano ang magagaling na authors ng bill na yan! Ang reply pa nga ni Villar when interviewed about the bill was " Isipin na lang ng mga owners ng private hospitals na at least nakatulong sila sa kanilang kapwa" eh kung sila kaya ang mag-shoulder ng bills ng mga promissory notes para makatulong sila sa kapwa nila tutal malaki naman ang mga kurakot nila. nagpapapogi points sila at the expense of others
    Last edited by surg; September 5th, 2007 at 09:39 PM. Reason: nagdagdag lang po

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    #33
    it's unfair to the private hospitals to be forced to accept promissory notes which the patients have no intention of honoring. it will also encourage the patients to abuse this, since they are sure the hospitals will not run after them due to the tedious legal process involved.

    in addition to the promissory notes, pwede kayang mag ask ng "collateral" (land titles, vehicle OR/CR, insurance policies, etc.) ang mga hospital before releasing the patients? this way, me assurance, kahit katiting, na babalik ang pasyente para magbayad at mabawi yung collateral nila.

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    #34
    Dude with no money: "Naaay! Sakit ng tiyan ko! Dalhin moko ko sa ospital!"

    Mother of dude with no money also with no money: "Sige anak, tatawag ako ng tricycle, dadalhin kita sa Jose Reyes."

    Dude with no money: "Yoko dun! Public yan e! Gusto ko sa St. Lukes!!"

    Mother of dude with no money also with no money: " Aba sosyal ka anak! At saan natin kukunin ang pambayad!?"

    Dude with no money: "may promissory note naman e! bilis nay! sakit ng tyan kooooo!"

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Dude with no money: "Naaay! Sakit ng tiyan ko! Dalhin moko ko sa ospital!"

    Mother of dude with no money also with no money: "Sige anak, tatawag ako ng tricycle, dadalhin kita sa Jose Reyes."

    Dude with no money: "Yoko dun! Public yan e! Gusto ko sa St. Lukes!!"

    Mother of dude with no money also with no money: " Aba sosyal ka anak! At saan natin kukunin ang pambayad!?"

    Dude with no money: "may promissory note naman e! bilis nay! sakit ng tyan kooooo!"
    LOL Mismo.

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    #36
    wake up call din naman yan sa gobyerno para magpondo ng malaki sa mga government hospitals.they cant force the private hospitals to just accept those promissory notes.bisnes yan e.hmm so si manny pala yan, pano kaya kung e apply din sa realty bisnes nya yan??

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by lolo pepe View Post
    it's unfair to the private hospitals to be forced to accept promissory notes which the patients have no intention of honoring. it will also encourage the patients to abuse this, since they are sure the hospitals will not run after them due to the tedious legal process involved.

    in addition to the promissory notes, pwede kayang mag ask ng "collateral" (land titles, vehicle OR/CR, insurance policies, etc.) ang mga hospital before releasing the patients? this way, me assurance, kahit katiting, na babalik ang pasyente para magbayad at mabawi yung collateral nila.
    Ano namang collateral ang maibibigay kung squatter ang pasyente?

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ano namang collateral ang maibibigay kung squatter ang pasyente?
    Oo nga naman.

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    #39
    As per 24 Oras........

    Kanselado muna ang Hospital Holiday.

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    #40
    in short, nagpa cute si manny villar sa masa because he will run for president, in the expense of PRIVATE HOSPITALS AND DOCTORS!

    personal experience ko ito, ortho surgeon ako and i have practice both in private and gov't hospitals. sa government, expected na di halos makabayad yung patient, so once na I accepted the patient(visiting consultant ako), alam ko na pwedeng di makabayad sa akin and it is ok, most of the time libre na nga despite na wala naman ako suweldo sa gov't, but I prctice there as my community service. Pero yung sa private hospitals, grabe. ang pasyente ayaw sa public kasi mabaho daw, kasi di na aalagan, kulang sa gamit etc. But these services have a premium! Gusto pa nung patient lagi mo syang dinadalaw, galit pag na late ka sa rounds, gusto magpa ct scan kasi sumasakit ulo. Pagdating ng bayaran wala maibigay!!!! Promissory note!

    Sabi ko, pwede ko ba ibayad sa school ng anak ko yan? Pwede ba pambili ng pagkain o pamalengke ko yan? Ilaga ko na lang pM's sa akin! This year alone, pag kinuwenta ni mrs kung magkano yung PM's sa akin, may BMW na sana ako, e hanggang ngayun Honda at Mitsu lang rides ko!

    Gagawa gawa sila ng law tapos wala naman pala pondo para bayaran yung PM's pag nag renege yung patient. Sna kung di makabayad yung patient, gov't ang magbayad, even with the hospital having to absorb 30% loss.

    Say 70% will be shouldered by Manny Villar!

    Wala na ba kami karapatang mabuhay na mga doctors!

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