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September 5th, 2007 03:52 PM #1
What's this I read about all the private hospitals belonging to the Phivate Hospital Association of the Philippines (PHAP) going on hospital holiday?
It seems that they are protesting this in protest to a recently passed republic act, allowing patients who don't have the immediate capacity to pay to check out of the hospital on a promissory note only. They said that this would kill their business/industry.
If what I read was right, they would only accept emergency room cases and maternity cases but would not admit patients. Also, if I what I deduce is right, for them its "business first, patients later" i.e. they are looking at hospital operations from mostly a business standpoint and less from a social/public service standpoint.
Any truth to this news?
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September 5th, 2007 03:57 PM #2
I've also read this a few weeks ago... they would push with this hospital holiday one or twice a month.
This seems really absurd to me.
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September 5th, 2007 04:00 PM #3
anak ng pating, eh kawawa naman ang mga pasyente nyan. What if iisa lang ang accesible na hospital sa 3 barangays at nagkatong private pa toh. Don't tell me they would refuse patients na hinde critical ang lagay? Anak ng pating talaga oo...
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September 5th, 2007 04:06 PM #5
It is true. Seems certain hardliners of the PHAP (around 300 hospitals) will push through with their self-proclaimed "hospital holiday" until December 2007. Yung iba naman are still looking for a diplomatic solution.
Being in the C&C industry, I sympathize with their plight. Marami na talagang kaso na pagka-pirma ng promissory note, tatakbuhan na lang ang responsibilidad. Hindi naman charitable institution ang ospital, business pa rin, with employees having their own families to feed.
Yung ibang mga ospital naman kasi, nasa ward na nga yung pasyente, ino-overcharge pa rin. My father-in-law was hospitalized recently sa UDMC twice in a span of 1.5 months, yung first for stroke, 2nd for pneumonia, stayed a total of 3 weeks, over 130k yung bill (net), hindi pa kasama yung PF.
Sana nga maayos yung gusot asap.
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September 5th, 2007 04:14 PM #6
does hospital holiday mean kahit may pera yung pasyente di pwede admit? as in closed talaga?
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September 5th, 2007 04:15 PM #7
Paano naman yung mga potential patients na have the capacity to pay or backed-up by solid hospitalization plans from reputable firms? Ide-deny pa rin ba nila admission? I don't mean to offend patients who have lesser paying capacities pero kawawa naman yung mga pasyenteng makakapag-bayad naman talaga.
Dito sa mga ganitong sitwasyon nagca-clash/contradict yung dalawang goals/objectives ng ganitong mga establishments eh: business goals/objectives vs. social goals/obectives. I completely understand the business side since they do have to earn money to support their operations, pay off debts, pay dues and employee salaries pero...sus, ewan ko ba.
Minsan, pag alam mo yung vision and mission ng ganitong establishments na more on the social side of things eh pagnagkakaganito, one can think that they are not being true to the statements of their vision and mission.
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September 5th, 2007 04:27 PM #8
Another group of hospitals, the Philippine Hospital Association (PHA) disagrees with the PHAP's planned hospital holiday, saying that the welfare of patients should be placed above the need for profit.
Sinabihan nga nilang mga papansin ang PHAP. Yung PHAP naman, tinawag na mga sipsip sa gobyerno ang PHA.
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September 5th, 2007 04:55 PM #9
I know some people who run private hospitals and I do understand their concern. I'm not sure if their hospital will be joining the planned holiday.
Hospitals are just like any other business. The revenue must at least cancel the expenses. The proposed law will guarantee that anyone admitted and cannot pay can just sign on a promissory note and go home. Even before the new law was proposed, this has been happening already. How many of them come back? Personally, wala pa ko nakita ni isa na bumalik. So the cost is absorbed by the hospital or is passed onto other patients. Private hospitals don't get funding from the government. Some of the cost is offset by PCSO at best. Other than that, everything is paid for by the patient or absorbed by the hospital.
Private hospitals are established to cater to a certain market segment (which is to say, not everyone). They are not government hospitals or charitable institutions. Current laws do mandate that all hospitals attend to and at least stabilize emergency cases. But that's it. Private hospitals are not obliged to admit such patients under their care and institute definitive care.
What the holiday aims to demonstrate is the scenario of private hospitals going bankrupt and closing due to the new proposed law. That's why they are going on holiday. But even during the supposed holiday, hospitals will still accomodate emergency cases. They will not refuse the critically ill or those needing immediate medical attention.
Di ba na illegal din para sa mga hosp na mag require ng downpayment bago ma-admit for confinement.
does hospital holiday mean kahit may pera yung pasyente di pwede admit? as in closed talaga?
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September 5th, 2007 05:13 PM #10
Mali naman ung govt.
U cant force private businesses to incur losses. That would discourage investment. Wala na magpapatayo ng bagong hospital kung ganyan. and existing hospitals, if they can no longer bear losses, will shut down.
In the long run, it's gonna be bad for us all.
It's a populist law.
And it's unfair to people who pay. Kung pde sila mag promissory note, why not everyone else?
Why should i pay if the other guy doesnt have to?
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