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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    may safety feature ang AT na hindi mo na need pindutin ang release button pag N to D & D to N.... dyan ka nag kamali nung nagawa mo yong P to R kase pinindot mo yong safety release button... kung di mo pinindot yon di sana lumipat from D to P and P to R

    moral lesson while driving put the car to N then D (dont push the safety button if not going to park or reverse)
    Oo nga.

    Usually I still press the release button when shifting to & from N to D.

    I had to check my monty's manual to see if tama ito pero wala nakalagay.

    Thanks for reminding me of this feature.

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    Off topic: may comment sa article na wag gumamit ng handbrake sa traffic habang naka N. Mababatak daw cable at masisira handbrake. Nakakatawa lang, wag na rin gamitin handbrake during parking, kalsuhan na lang din. In fact, wag na gamitin ang kotse, may wear and tare din pag gamit nito, mag PUV na lang.

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    #83
    I get a lot of mixed answers when I asked if they put the lever on N if they get stuck in traffic or stopped at a red light. Ung iba P, ung iba handbrake & D but bihira sa mga friends and relatives ko ang naglalagay sa N. Me I put it on N pag naka stop especially when my right foot is getting hurt already. Ayoko sa P kasi baka mailagay ko sa R.

    Like what sir BratPAQ posted, kinakabahan din ako if the driver of the vehicle in front of me puts the lever in P. I know coz the reverse lights lit up. Pag nagkamali yan or nataranta at nailagay sa R, tapos ako.

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Off topic: may comment sa article na wag gumamit ng handbrake sa traffic habang naka N. Mababatak daw cable at masisira handbrake. Nakakatawa lang, wag na rin gamitin handbrake during parking, kalsuhan na lang din. In fact, wag na gamitin ang kotse, may wear and tare din pag gamit nito, mag PUV na lang.
    I find it stupid. The handbreak will get loose no matter what when the vehicle gets old regardless if it's M/T or A/T. I agree, wag ka ng mag kotse, makisabay or mag commute ka nalang para wala ka ng problem sa wear and tear ng vehicle and katawan mo nalang ang ma worn out sa sobrang pagod.hehe

    But I do that, N and handbreak pag masyadong ng matagal na naka stop.

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    #85
    At a stop, regardless of length, i place the car at N + handbrake.

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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    I get a lot of mixed answers when I asked if they put the lever on N if they get stuck in traffic or stopped at a red light. Ung iba P, ung iba handbrake & D but bihira sa mga friends and relatives ko ang naglalagay sa N. Me I put it on N pag naka stop especially when my right foot is getting hurt already. Ayoko sa P kasi baka mailagay ko sa R.

    Like what sir BratPAQ posted, kinakabahan din ako if the driver of the vehicle in front of me puts the lever in P. I know coz the reverse lights lit up. Pag nagkamali yan or nataranta at nailagay sa R, tapos ako.

    Sir rna800.

    During traffic, madali naman ma-determine yung sasakyan pag AT, lagi naka-ilaw ang brake light, kahit slow moving, kaya iniiwasan ko na agad lalo na kung brake rider pag traffic.
    sa MT kasi, once na umusad, walang brake light, kaya yun ang sinusundan ko.

    about naman sa shifting ng P during traffic, marami talagang driver na ginagawa yan, pero as long as na kabisado naman yung sasakyan, no problem, so far, (wag naman sana) wala pa naman ako na-encounter na biglang umatras sa harap ko, (sakit kasi ng MT driver na nag-transition sa AT, madalas yan sa mga gate type na automatic transmission)

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    #87
    Normal traffic during stop i put it at N then apak sa brake.

    Kung slow moving, I retain it at D then apak apak lang sa brake.

    Heavy traffic, matagal ang usad (pantay kalsada) i put it at N then handbrake.


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    #88
    Got victimized nung mga naglalagay sa P while nakahinto.

    Instead sa D lintek sa reverse naibalik.

    Then apak pa sa silinyador! Basag headlight ko.

    Kaya maganda yung gate type yung AT kumpara dun sa isang diretso lang yung P-R-N-D


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    #89
    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Got victimized nung mga naglalagay sa P while nakahinto.

    Instead sa D lintek sa reverse naibalik.

    Then apak pa sa silinyador! Basag headlight ko.

    Kaya maganda yung gate type yung AT kumpara dun sa isang diretso lang yung P-R-N-D


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    Sir cast_no_shadow,

    ako naman po, kamuntikan naman na ma-victim ng gate type sa fortuner.. buti na lang yung barkada ko (naka-alalay sa right seat), sabi sa akin, hindi manual dala mo, kasi wala po na switch button to transit from D direct sa R at P, kinabukasan after driving the gate type AT, gamit ko po yung sasakyan namin, nagtaka naman ako bakit di pumapasok sa reverse dahil MT yung sasakyan namin, sabi ng erpats ko, anu ang ginagawa ko bakit di ako naka-tapak sa clutch! hehehe..

    Lesson's learned, a long period of time na exposed sa MT, (natuto po ako ng actual driving sa AT bago mag MT) be familiar talaga sa dadalhin na sasakyan, at least, mag-update sa sarili na mag-drive (kung MT) going AT, at least 2-3x a year, to expose at hindi manibago, when it comes po sa transition from MT to AT.

    Hindi na po ako nanibago nung time na dinala ko po yung vios ng auntie ko which is gate type in a short period. + yung awareness sa pag tingin ng dashboard (odometer/side between engine temp at fuel gauge, basta merong indication for AT) kung anu po ang naka-indicate na gear pag AT.

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    #90
    I have a honda crv 2003 a/t and my driving habit is when stop on a trafic light pag medyo matagal mag GO 60secs ++ I use N + handbreak or break because without handbreak or break your car can roll. Pag 2mins ++ mag GO ang traffic light I put it in P + handbreak well I dont confuse n din kc malalaman mo sa dashboard kung anu gear k at bago ako umabante titignan ko kung naka D siya. Pag naka park nmn I always set at P + handbreak flat, uphill downhill kht anu pa un place nun bsta once ur in P your car wont move anymore maliban n lng banggain k. Tapos pag pababa takbo ko I usually put it in N to free fall at alalay lng sa break n din.

    And I remember I been involve sa accident and uphill un naatrasan kmi ng toyota FX he bump on the car infront of me before bumping to my crv but I dont remember kung ano gear ko kung N o P but as per checking in my dealer wla nmn nkita problem maybe because the impact was not that strong kc may nauna naka receive ng impact d lng nakaya ng preno kaya tinamaan pa ko galos lng ng bumper ang natamo.

    Anyway regarding sa mga nag ssbi n pag naka P while in trafic at naaatrasan because mali un gear may tawag dyn atat umandar nalilimutan tignan kung anu gear sila they should always check it before releasing there break. Ska if ever nabangga k tpos nka P ka lagot haha bayad siya o insurance nia haha

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    #91
    I usually put the car to N + handbreak when stuck in traffic. Nilalagay ko lang sa P when the car is being park. Safety feature siguro ng Fort. Hindi nahuhugot ang susi pag wala sa P.

    Saka kung stop and go ang traffic, ang layo ng P to D. For me, D to N is safer and much convenient.

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewnathaniel View Post
    I usually put the car to N + handbreak when stuck in traffic. Nilalagay ko lang sa P when the car is being park. Safety feature siguro ng Fort. Hindi nahuhugot ang susi pag wala sa P.

    Saka kung stop and go ang traffic, ang layo ng P to D. For me, D to N is safer and much convenient.
    That is what I do too, in heavy traffic (N and brake/handbrake). Normal traffic, just step on the brake....

    Good feature that you cannot pullout the key unless it is in P.... Why? For AT, you normally cannot/(and should not) start the vehicle when it is gear'ed (gear is engaged), and so, it will become a puzzle to the driver why the engine won't fire.....


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    #93
    If in a very unfortunate event that, the car in front of you suddenly went backward fast (thinking its on D), would you still be liable of the damage? I think unfair naman yun in a traffic/stop situation, you give just enough room for a small error, and not the usual 1-2 car length pag hi-way. Plus its a driver's error din, and not yours (other car).

    For matic cars that i've driven, you can switch off the engine while in "N", but you can't pull out the key, you have to put it back to "P", then that's the time you can pull the key.

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    #94
    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post

    For matic cars that i've driven, you can switch off the engine while in "N", but you can't pull out the key, you have to put it back to "P", then that's the time you can pull the key.
    Amen to that bro.... You should only be able to pull out the key,- in P....

    However, I still own a 5-year old vehicle (very popular here in the Philippines), where I can pull out the key even when gear'ed... Deym!

    BTT: N to move the vehicle on short distance (towing)


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    #95
    In our old L200, you can remove the key even when the car is running. Once, I was thrashing the truck in Tanay, with the key on the dash and the windows open. After a hard corner, zoom goes the key out the window! Buti sa damo lang napunta and not down the mountain [emoji23]


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    #96
    If you can remove the key of an A/T equipped vehicle it simply means the car lost this safety feature. Some cars won't allow you to lock your doors with the key in the ignition if there was an input from the driver door courtesy switch. Most Hondas you can't lock the door without using the key or RKE transmitter. All military tactical vehicles now are A/T equipped and don't need a key( imagine being under attack by the enemy and you can't find the key) just like aircraft and ships.

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    #97
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Amen to that bro.... You should only be able to pull out the key,- in P....

    However, I still own a 5-year old vehicle (very popular here in the Philippines), where I can pull out the key even when gear'ed... Deym!

    BTT: N to move the vehicle on short distance (towing)


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    Yung GS ba yan?

    Yung akin sa N ko lang nilalagay pag naka park sa grahe namin

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    #98
    According to casa mechanics, you can still tow a car or an SUV with AT in neutral but to a maximum distance of 15km. only. Beyond this there is a possibility that you damage your transmission. AT neutral is not fully disengaged not like the manual transmission.

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    #99
    Tanong ko kapag nagbrake ka sa downhill, tapos naiset mo sa park then release the brake, may movement play pa ba bago mag lock yung wheels or dapat once you set the lever to P ay wala nang movement na mangyayari sa oto regardless of the slopes?

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    #100
    may slight movement po sir, kahit handbrake lang or both

    HTH

what's the use of "N" in a AT?