Are we becoming an A/T country?

[pajerokid]

Convenience-wise, you cant beat AT, But going all out in a 2.0L with MT still makes me smile.

But the ultimate for me would be a manumatic.

[cardo]

my uncle who lives in Texas for 3 decades does'nt know how to use a manual.

i'd go with A/T too... kakapagod pag long drive and traffic... last car ko was a Manual and I had so many troubles with the tranny. But nothing beats a manual if you have a beastly torquey powerful engine!!! Iba pa rin yun nakakapag burn out hehehe

[BoyFerrari]

Just look at what A/T has done for F1. For gosh sakes, the damn computer even adjusts the revs to the right shift points to maximize speed and acceleration. All you have to do is step on the pedal and shift the gears on the wheel!

You cannot include a Formula One transmission for comparison in this discussion. It is in a league of its own due to its highly customized design built especially for racing.

[ghosthunter]

if the local traffic condition wasn't as bad as it is today, I would prefer a m/t... but with reality sinking in, an A/T is almost a requirement to survive daily driving in metro manila.

[mikaelrules]

Also due to the fact that F1 transmissions are not automatics (with torque converters), but are actually computer shifted manuals. The driver also has a clutch "pedal" on the steering wheel which is used for starting from a standing stop.

[BoyFerrari]

Also due to the fact that F1 transmissions are not automatics (with torque converters), but are actually computer shifted manuals. The driver also has a clutch "pedal" on the steering wheel which is used for starting from a standing stop.

Nadale mo batang-bata.

[pixelparadigm]

Diba sequential gearbox ang gamit sa F1? Kahit sa WRC sequential manual din, although kelangan pa rin ng clutch for take-off. I don't know where I heard this, but Renault tried to use CVT in their race cars and the result was the car was always 1 second quicker than before.

Sophisticated race transmissions doesn't have torque converters?, but the computer compensates for the engine response(parang double clutching at the speed of light during downshifting) during and after a shift has been initiated by the driver. Usually, the computer sends a signal to the driver when the engine power peaks and that's the time when to upshift optimally.

[Karding]

Also due to the fact that F1 transmissions are not automatics (with torque converters), but are actually computer shifted manuals. The driver also has a clutch "pedal" on the steering wheel which is used for starting from a standing stop.

I learn something new everyday.

You cannot include a Formula One transmission for comparison in this discussion. It is in a league of its own due to its highly customized design built especially for racing.

Can you believe it? A hightech tranny being compared with a conventional daily driver tranny?

You two deserves a rep points!

[nugundam93]

Diba sequential gearbox ang gamit sa F1? Kahit sa WRC sequential manual din, although kelangan pa rin ng clutch for take-off. I don't know where I heard this, but Renault tried to use CVT in their race cars and the result was the car was always 1 second quicker than before.

yup.

i'll try to look for that road and track issue where they featured that williams-renault f1 cvt test model.

[MAXBUWAYA]

i say those manufacturers should not discriminate M/T as a low class Citizen

Hehehehehe

[pink_cadillac]

M/T isn't necessarily a choice between the upper or lower class. It does cost more as an option but take for instance, Taiwan. Just about every car there is an automatic.

[beerygud]

M/T pa rin kahit na magkandatrapik-trapik na sa pinas. Iba pa din yung paminsan-minsan gustong mong bumirit.

[Shadetree MKNX]

The more affordable cars become to the general public, and the greater the percentage of drivers turn out to be women, I think the trend will be for the greater demand of automatics in the car market.

But there will definitely still be a sizeable market for manual-equipped cars because of the substantial difference in price between an auto and a manual.

Only in stronger economies like that of Taiwan can one expect to see a greater percentage of automatics versus manuals.

[Karding]

In my opinion, the price difference between the A/T and M/T is not the factor. Usually, consumers who are torn between the two tranny is about convenience/preference, but not the price.

When I went shopping for a WRX, I opt for a M/T. The reason that made me decide to get the M/T is to enjoy the WRX's capabilities. I didnt have to weigh-in the price difference between the A/T and the M/T.

The price gap between the M/T and the A/T is getting closer as the year goes by.

just my .02 cents

[badkuk]

i think people also have this frame of thought that A/Ts are more expensive to maintain than M/Ts; that A/Ts cost more to repair than M/Ts, and that fewer talyers can maintain A/Ts. Is this still true these days?

[kuroy]

sa pinas mas maganda nga palagay ko ang A/T kasi sobra traffic.

regarding sa reliability naman, i currently own 2 A/T cars and wala namang problem so far. masarap idrive lalo pag rush hour.

sa acceleration naman ay hindi naman masyadong mahina sabi nga ni yebo ay nacompensate naman ng newer engine. my other car has 3.3L V6 so ndi problema kung a/t man.

lalo sa manila masarap talaga ang A/T convenient talaga.

i used to own a number of m/t cars sa pinas and dini sa abroad and kalimitan nagkakaproblema sa clutch in the long run.

[Karding]

i think people also have this frame of thought that A/Ts are more expensive to maintain than M/Ts; that A/Ts cost more to repair than M/Ts, and that fewer talyers can maintain A/Ts. Is this still true these days?

Depende din sa model ng car ang prices ng tranny repair.

i.e my uncle just had a problem with his Vande Plas Jaguar A/T and it will cost him $7,500. On the other hand, a WRX STi 6-speed w/o LSD sells for $6,000.

langya, eto ngang 1993 beater 240SX ko na A/T kumakadyot kapag mag shift eh, bwhahaha. Pero hataw pa din sa highest gear, yun nga lang mabagal from the get go. Pero compared sa 1993 din na M/T naman, mas hamak na mas mabilis and M/T humatak.

If I had a choice, I'll keep a M/T for fun in addition to my A/T tsikot.

[cardo]

Actually mahal pa rin para sa kin yun cost ng A/T and M/T dito sa pinas... when we got our 2nd car the difference was about 55k which is still alot of dough for an average working Juan Dela Cruz. But then again there were other factors I considered, like an M/T would be much suitable for a diesel hauler than an A/T for a diesel. It would slow at start and at inclines esp if you were carrying so many stuff.

[Karding]

Cardo, kahit naman ang M/T sa pinas mahal for an average working juan dela cruz. As a matter of fact, I dont consider a working juan dela cruz "average" who can afford a car. An average working juan dela cruz in Pinas cannot afford a car. Hindi ka 'average' cardo, above average ka, hahaha.

The PhP55,000 price difference is comparable to A/T and M/T also here in the US. Average price difference is $1,000.00. The Infiniti G35 M/T is more expensive that the A/T config. Ha, look where the trend is headed...hehehe.

[mbt]

pareng karding,

ano ibig mong sabihin na more expensive to own an M/T? hehe