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    Quote Originally Posted by ABA
    Ok lang yan Tsong. I used to drive automatics & very comfortable. Pag sobra na ang traffic, shift mo sa neutral.
    Yes, the only problem is the lag. Diyan malakas ang consumption mo pag bumirit ka.
    Calling all innova owners & fanatics. I nominate Innova Boy as our club president.
    is it ok ba na when driving from total stop. you just put the gear into D (drve) position without stepping on brake pedal pero andar agad siya??... kasi natamad nako step muna sa brake before set the gear to D position.. diba mali o malakas sa gas pag ganito ang driving ko??

    I'm quite honor for you to nominate me as Innova club president... naiiyak ako niyan eh...he he he.. I'll just share wat can i do for the benefits of those innova fanatics...

    WBR,

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    Innova Boy..okay lang kahit di mo shift sa Neutral kapag sa stop light..basta wag lang sobrang tagal na umabot na mag overheat ung transmission.

    Basahin mo din manual mo..madami tips dun!! malaking tulong yun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiper
    Innova Boy..okay lang kahit di mo shift sa Neutral kapag sa stop light..basta wag lang sobrang tagal na umabot na mag overheat ung transmission.

    Basahin mo din manual mo..madami tips dun!! malaking tulong yun.
    THANKS KIPER,

    but what i want to know is when in full idle position, i just shift my gear to D from N, then it started moving ahead slowly with out me stepping on brake pedal?? Will this not affect anything on my innova?? thanks..

    I usually does this on heavy slow traffic, cause i got tire of always stepping on the brake..

    WBR,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy
    but what i want to know is when in full idle position, i just shift my gear to D from N, then it started moving ahead slowly with out me stepping on brake pedal?? Will this not affect anything on my innova?? thanks..

    I usually does this on heavy slow traffic, cause i got tire of always stepping on the brake..
    much better if you stepped on the brake while shifting...it may cause damage to your transmission...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raikonen
    much better if you stepped on the brake while shifting...it may cause damage to your transmission...
    INNOva boy don't do that again, kelangan nakaapak ka sa brake before ka mag shift sa 'D'. it might damage your transmission kapag nag kambyo ka na di nakaapak sa brake 'N'-'D'. Mas malakas nga pala sa krudo ang matic compared to manual. ako nga 1 time ngaddrive ako sa sobrang katamaran ko, kelangan namin magSTOP, mejo umaandar pa ng konti yung kotse nilgay ko kaagad sa 'P'-park gear ayun super subsob kami daig pang nagpanik breaking!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raikonen
    much better if you stepped on the brake while shifting...it may cause damage to your transmission...
    please enlighten me on why will shifting from N to D without stepping on the brakes will damage the transmission? i also do this sometimes.
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    Hindi ba sa U.S., Federal Law requires that there be a brake-shifter interlock? Meaning dapat naka-tapak ka sa preno before you can move the shifter from "N".

    You need the brakes more as a safety feature rather than to preserve tranny life. Although yung ibang hot-rodders gumagamit ng 'neutral drop' to launch their a/t's. Basically revving the engine in neutral then dropping into "D" to launch their vehicle. The sudden inflow of torque can blow the tranny (or the engine, whichever is the weakest link).

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    but how about shifting from N to D at idle speed?
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    I also shift from D to N during long stops, when shifting back from N to D I don't step on the brakes since theres no "locking mechanism". IMO since its a moving part it'l just be more of a wear and tear issue than a tranny issue.

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    step on the brakes when shifting from N to D, safety na rin yan just in case your foot slips and presses on the gas. or you spill something like your coffee ... etc...

    ako, aside from stepping on the brakes i also engage the hand brake. additional safety on my part just in case.

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    Yep. Safety first. Kahit nakakatamad, masasanay na din kayo sa practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    I also shift from D to N during long stops, when shifting back from N to D I don't step on the brakes since theres no "locking mechanism". IMO since its a moving part it'l just be more of a wear and tear issue than a tranny issue.
    me too. i just move the lever to D.

    From CR-V Owner's Manual, page 152:
    "Neutral (N) -- Use Neutral if you need to restart a stalled engine, or if it is necessary to stop briefly with the engine idling. Shift to Park position if you need to leave the vehicle for any reason. Press on the brake pedal when you are moving the shift lever from Neutral to another gear"

    should i build the habit now? or is it perfectly ok for the car to shift N-D without stepping on the brake?

    i also shift D-N-D-N when parking when i have to get as close as possible to a wall infront of the car. (pina ba ang tawag dun?) it's easier and less jerkier than using the brake pedal. is this bad?

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    I guess it would be up to you if you want to start learning. It is a safety procedure (sort of like fastening your seatbelt). The device is already there and it is up to you to learn how to use it. If you think you are safe enough without it, then don't. But I suggest you do.

    Don't flip-flop the gear selector back and forth. Loading, unloading, loading, unloading the transmission in succession can be detrimental to it's service life. Learn to feather your brakes. Precision vehicle control lang iyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    please enlighten me on why will shifting from N to D without stepping on the brakes will damage the transmission? i also do this sometimes.
    actually, it's the toyota's service advisor who told me that when i had my vehicle seviced there last year. tinanong ko kasi sa kanya if okay lang to shift from N to D w/o stepping on the brakes. sabi nya, better na tapak ko yung brakes coz it may cause damage to the tranny. better safe na lang daw than sorry.. he didn't explore on that.. i didn't say na it will damage the tranny..

    another advice na sinabi nya is "Never park without using the parking brake since it puts all the vehicle’s weight on a tiny metal catch inside the transmission. we're not sure na flat and level yung lugar na hinintuan natin kahit na it looks like it. there might be a little slope.

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    Yep, don't use the tranny as a parking brake. That's one expensive parking brake in case you break it.

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    Nabasa ko din yan... always engage your hand brake especially when parking on an include or decline.

    Ownertype: Just keep it on "D", hirap control CRV pag close quarters pag di ka sanay, may tendency na mag jerk pag biglaan ang release ng brake just like what Otep said practice lang, slowly depress the brakes.
    Last edited by ILuvDetailing; March 12th, 2005 at 01:21 PM.

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    safety wise...use your brake first, i dont think sobrng nakaktamad tapakan ang brake then shift to "D". Siguro once in a while okey lang.

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    pwede naman i shift yugn A/T from N to D from a stop without stepping on the brake. it won't damage your tranny, or at least, i don't see how it will.

    ang masama ay shifting from N to D at high rpm (high, in this case, means anything above idle!)... sure-fire way to cream your gearbox and create a literal slushbox!

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    #19
    I step on the brakes when shifting from N to D. If I need to move slowly I just lift my foot off the brakes. No, it won't damage your tranny if you don't step on the brake before shifting.

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    Dapat hinihintay mong mag-lock yung 1st gear bago mo bitiwan yung brake, pag bigla mo na lang ipinasok sa D (without engaging the brake), mag-jerk yan, at sa katagalan masisira ang 1st gear mo.

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