downshifting when overtaking

[jarjarbingie]

hi poh. quick question, mga sir. i would like to know kung bakit kelangan magdownshift kapag mago-overtake? eh diba dapat mas mabilis ka when overtaking? what happens if i do otherwise?

[woohoo]

Not generally.

If your speed is sufficient to overtake without getting the oncoming vehicles in danger of a head-on collision with you, you don't need to downshift. You only need to downshift if you want more acceleration/power and you have to do it quickly. Of course, after downshifting, you do not maintain your current rpm or you'll slow down the vehicle (engine brake), you even need to press down on the accelerator more, to get the power you need to finish the overtake quickly.

[alwayz_yummy]

yan ang gusto ko sa mga compacts with 2.0 MT, lesser down shifts kasi sa lakas ng torque kaya na i-over-take...

pag AT just press hard on the gas, then let the AT do its job...

and please, pag oovertake ka atleast do 20kph more than whomever you are overtaking... kung di mabubusit lang nasa likod mo at inilalagay mo pa sarili mo sa delikadong sitwasyon.

basta bago ka magovertake, judge your speed, pag pantay kayo, give more power(by down shifting 1 or 2 gears), verufy if clear, the enter... give all the power until you exit the overtaking stage.

ang problem lang ng overtaking kasi is the big dent in you FC because you'll push hard to enter and exit quickly..especially in the provincial roads

[_Qwerty_]

sa A/T i noticed pag mag overtake mas madali kung i release mo yung gas tsaka mo biglang ibabaon mas mabilis acceleration nya compared to just pressing the gas without first releasing it.

[testament11]

ah ganun ba technique sa a/t overtaking? nahihirapan ako mag-overtake sa a/t, kahit na pajero gamit ko. iba kasi ang hatak ng a/t sa m/t, imo

[j_avonni]

sa A/T i noticed pag mag overtake mas madali kung i release mo yung gas tsaka mo biglang ibabaon mas mabilis acceleration nya compared to just pressing the gas without first releasing it.

I'd experiment this. I just rev hard when overtaking.


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[ghosthunter]

Downshifting when overtaking gives more torque to the wheels than it would get if you maintained a higher gear. More torque gives you better acceleration and the overtaking maneuver will be accomplished quicker.

[jeanpierre]

Advise ng ibang A/T drivers driving a turbocharged car, apak daw ng konti sa brake pedal while pressing the accelerator para bumilis ang spooling ng turbo giving more boost then sabay bitiw ng preno pag pwede na mag overtake.

[alwayz_yummy]

the key is - power... pag bitin ka just wait ka nalang wag mo pilitin.

[XTO]

Di naman always, depende rin - kung libre naman meaning maluwag ang incoming lane pwede mag smooth pass - without changing gears. Downshifting is required kung medyo siksikan and medyo risky para makalagpas ka agad at makaiwas sa harap mo.

Overtaking ng bara-bara ang puno't dulo ng maraming aksidente. pati walang kasalanan nadadamay.

[Gerbo]

Downshifting when overtaking gives more torque to the wheels than it would get if you maintained a higher gear. More torque gives you better acceleration and the overtaking maneuver will be accomplished quicker.

Dito expert ang mga naka-Crosswind.

[alwayz_yummy]

noong naka-delica/liteace diesel ako, iniiwasan ko mag-overtake masyado and i do it pag naka-rekta na.. parang ba nagpalabas ako ng "smoke-screen" hehehe

pero sa maxima ibang story yun....

[fourtheboys96]

and please, pag oovertake ka atleast do 20kph more than whomever you are overtaking... kung di mabubusit lang nasa likod mo at inilalagay mo pa sarili mo sa delikadong sitwasyon.

+100000000 ako dito.
nakakainis kasi yung ibang sasakyan eh halos pantay lang sila ng speed nung isang sasakyan sa harap nila tapos pipilitin mag-overtake. bubusina expecting na dapat bumagal yung sasakyan sa harap niya para maka-overtake siya. duh????

ako lumang A/T gamit ko kaya bihira ako maka-overtake lalo na pag sa lower gear. pag mejo rekta na (4th gear) mas madali tantiyahin.

[shadow]

+100000000 ako dito.
nakakainis kasi yung ibang sasakyan eh halos pantay lang sila ng speed nung isang sasakyan sa harap nila tapos pipilitin mag-overtake. bubusina expecting na dapat bumagal yung sasakyan sa harap niya para maka-overtake siya. duh????

pero kung meron gusto mag overtake dapat talaga palusutin, parang isa sa violation sa LTO yun hinde mo papalusutin eh.

hirap kasi dito sa pilipinas eh pag meron gusto mag overtake lalo pang bibilisan at iipitin nun nasa harap.

[rion]

and please, pag oovertake ka atleast do 20kph more than whomever you are overtaking... kung di mabubusit lang nasa likod mo at inilalagay mo pa sarili mo sa delikadong sitwasyon.

indeed, indeed...

[wham_10mbps]

share ko lang =)
eto naman ang tipid overtaking maneuver ko kaso pang highway at provincial roads lang na patag. effective to lalo na kung low HP ka tulad ng diesel ko.

wag mo agad tutukan yung sasakyan na gusto mo iovertake, maintain distance to about an imaginary 3 to 5 cars up front. Then maintain speed while judging as to when the opposite lane would be free from incoming vehicle. Based on your judgement and timing - slowly accelerate and draft towards the car you wish to overtake then pass at the right timing. In other words - timing - tantiya - bwelo - tantiya - overtake ...

tipid kasi momentum at timing lang ang gamit. di kelangan mag downshift..

kaso dapat sakto timing kasi you might end-up downshifting to gain torque for acceleration or better yet hit the brakes kung alanganin. Then try again.

sa akyatan naman, its a must to downshift before you pass.

[1D4LV]

since you need power to overtake, i think that the downshifting should be done prior to overtaking, and upshift, while in the middle. maintain the rpm.

[mbeige]

Torque at speed is what allows the car to accelerate.

If you're below the torque band, you'll need to downshift in order to get back into the torque band and grab more power to pass.

If you're already within the torque band, just stab on the pedal and you should be off. If not then you can downshift to go faster.

[tzulao]

down shifting for me just depends on the situation,mararamdaman mo naman yan sa pagtapak mo ng accelerator mo eh,,.bakit mo pipilitin na magovertake with a higher gear if you cannot feel any boost of torque kapag tumapak ka sa accelerator,this time magdownshift ka para maramdaman mo ung pwersa na kailangan mo to pass the other vehicle in front,.,.,in shorter terms marunong ka dapat tumantsa,.,..,.,sa power ng sasakyan mo,road condition at speed ng sasakyang gusto mo lampasan.,.,.,

AT naman i agree sa sinasabi nila na release a little bit sa tapak ng gas then depress fully for much faster acceleration pero dahan dahan lang sa tapak para smooth pa rin ang boost ng torque,.,,.,.

in my case i can overtake nicely and properly regardless if AT man or MT ang dinadrive ko na sasakyan.,.,.,tantsahan lang yan

peace and drive safely,.,.,

[spyghost]

when you downshift before overtaking, rev match