NAIA expressway

[JJB]

Mahal nga at 45! Dapat mga 20-25 lang. may signs ba na slow down curve ahead?


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[absinthe]

Kapwa Tsikoteers,

The reason why NAIAEx toll rates are so expensive is because of bid premiums that was practiced in the past Administration.

Remember, SMC/RSA paid the government P11 BILLION UPFRONT for the right to construct NAIAEx, besting MPIC/MVP bid of P305M.

This is on top of the NAIAEx actual construction costs amounting to P17.9 Billion.


From Boo:

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A major change in policy is the Duterte administration’s more positive attitude towards unsolicited projects. The past administration was totally hostile to unsolicited proposals, which explains why the MPIC connector road project languished until the end of its term. The new policy makes it possible for government to accept the proposal of San Miguel to build a new airport in Bulacan, which unlike similar proposals, entails absolutely no financial risk for the National Treasury, not even a sovereign guarantee the other airport proposal requires.

Another new policy is the elimination of bid premiums for the right to build PPP projects on top of actual project cost. San Miguel, for instance, paid P11 billion for the right to construct the NAIA Expressway. While it raised money for government, it also raises the toll fees needed to recover costs. That punishes the public users twice: for having to pay toll to use a project government should have built using taxes and secondly, having to pay more to cover the cost of the premium.

[papi smith]

kapag galing ba ako ng T1, pwede ko kunin yung entry after ng gasolinahan, petron ba yun? then exit sa may T3 para malapit na sa emtry ng slex at makaiwas dun sa domestic road, andrews na traffic?

[papi smith]

open na pala ang connect sa skyway to naiaex!

[kai s.]

Yes just found out a few hours ago nung doon kami dumaan! 45 pesos toll pero libre pa rin ngayon. Not sure til when though.

[Stigg ma]

kapag galing ba ako ng T1, pwede ko kunin yung entry after ng gasolinahan, petron ba yun? then exit sa may T3 para malapit na sa emtry ng slex at makaiwas dun sa domestic road, andrews na traffic?

pag nandun ka na sa naiaEx, as you mentioned, pwede exit t3 or pwede din may dedicated off ramp to slex (di ko lang alam kung open na ito offramp)

[JJB]

Kapwa Tsikoteers,

The reason why NAIAEx toll rates are so expensive is because of bid premiums that was practiced in the past Administration.

Remember, SMC/RSA paid the government P11 BILLION UPFRONT for the right to construct NAIAEx, besting MPIC/MVP bid of P305M.

This is on top of the NAIAEx actual construction costs amounting to P17.9 Billion.


From Boo:

Hay kaya naman pala mahal ang naiaex


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[CVT]

Kapwa Tsikoteers,

The reason why NAIAEx toll rates are so expensive is because of bid premiums that was practiced in the past Administration.

Remember, SMC/RSA paid the government P11 BILLION UPFRONT for the right to construct NAIAEx, besting MPIC/MVP bid of P305M.

This is on top of the NAIAEx actual construction costs amounting to P17.9 Billion.


From Boo:

Totoo ba ito bro?

P11B for the right to build and P17.9B for the actual cost of the project.

If and only if this is true, and pardon my French, e pv-t*ngn*,- saan napunta ang P11B???

[confused shoes]

Paano kaya naging expressway yan? Parang ramp lang.

[cast_no_shadow]

Paano kaya naging expressway yan? Parang ramp lang.

Dati pag ma traffic may reklamo ngayon may bypass may reklamo pa din saan ka naman talaga lulugar.

Kakadaan ko lang free pa pala.



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[absinthe]

Totoo ba ito bro?

P11B for the right to build and P17.9B for the actual cost of the project.

If and only if this is true, and pardon my French, e pv-t*ngn*,- saan napunta ang P11B???

This is 100% legit. Ito yung cheque ni SMC, paid in two tranches to the National Government courtesy of the DPWH:



San Miguel makes payment for NAIA Expressway project
By Lawrence Agcaoili (The Philippine Star) | Updated June 6, 2013 - 12:00am

MANILA, Philippines - Diversified conglomerate San Miguel Corp. (SMC) paid yesterday P11 billion representing the upfront cash payment for the 7.5-kilometer Ninoy Aquino international airport expressway project.

SMC president and chief operating officer Ramon S. Ang confirmed to The STAR that the conglomerate paid the amount in cash to the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) yesterday.

“Yes, we confirm paying the entire P11 billion today (yesterday) to seal our commitment to this vital project as our commitment to help in nation building. This project is San Miguel Group’s answer to a seamless toll network in the south,” Ang said in a text message to The STAR.

Even the CALAx, which was *almost* won by RSA only to be TKO'ed by a technically, Noy ordered a rebid and MVP got the concession, has an upfront cash payment amounting to 27.3 BILLION pesos [though MVP only paid 20% DP, amounting to P5.46 BILLION on the signing of the concession agreement].

CALAx actual construction costs is estimated at P35.4 BILLION, which is surely going to rise pa.

Kaya wag na kayo magtataka sa magiging toll fee sa CALAx :D

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As for the other question, where exactly did that 11,000,000,000.00 went, your guess is as good as mine. ;)

[CVT]

This is 100% legit. Ito yung cheque ni SMC, paid in two tranches to the National Government courtesy of the DPWH:



San Miguel makes payment for NAIA Expressway project
By Lawrence Agcaoili (The Philippine Star) | Updated June 6, 2013 - 12:00am



Even the CALAx, which was *almost* won by RSA only to be TKO'ed by a technically, Noy ordered a rebid and MVP got the concession, has an upfront cash payment amounting to 27.3 BILLION pesos [though MVP only paid 20% DP, amounting to P5.46 BILLION on the signing of the concession agreement].

CALAx actual construction costs is estimated at P35.4 BILLION, which is surely going to rise pa.

Kaya wag na kayo magtataka sa magiging toll fee sa CALAx :D

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As for the other question, where exactly did that 11,000,000,000.00 went, your guess is as good as mine. ;)

Ang sagot ba riyan ay may pagkaka-pareho sa sagot sa tanong na Saan napunta ang pinambayad namin ng mga vehicle plates? IIRC P400[?] x 8M at least = P3.2B at least

Bvw*k*n3n*ng iyan - sakto iyan in Kirundi....

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[shadow]

The whole business sector was so perplexed why SMC paid that much of a premium to be build NAIA expressway, kahit Anong compute nila during that time hinde nila alam paano nakuha ng SMC yun ganun number.

Meron nga tsismis na magkamali dahil overzealous na Makuha. Since nagkasubuan na pinangatawan na lang daw and tsismis.


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[confused shoes]

^At least mapapakinabangan na ni Juan de la Cruz. Hindi ba similar ang kaso sa North Rail? Kung ipinagpatuloy na lang yung project, nakabawas na sana sa trapik.

[Lew_Alcindor]

The whole business sector was so perplexed why SMC paid that much of a premium to be build NAIA expressway, kahit Anong compute nila during that time hinde nila alam paano nakuha ng SMC yun ganun number.

Meron nga tsismis na magkamali dahil overzealous na Makuha. Since nagkasubuan na pinangatawan na lang daw and tsismis.


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napakamahal ng paninindigan na yan. sisante siguro ang team na gumawa ng proposal na yan kung totoo nagkamali lang sa estimate.

[absinthe]

hindi nila binuksan yung counterflow from skyway to naiaex, bumaba pa ako ng andrews/sales and then a few meters in from of rwm entrance my ramp na dun, tuloy ang ligaya

Queried with someone who has a contact from the inside, utos daw ng SOMCO since holidays are over already. Will open once P1 to P2B connection is fully completed by February 2017.

The whole business sector was so perplexed why SMC paid that much of a premium to be build NAIA expressway, kahit Anong compute nila during that time hinde nila alam paano nakuha ng SMC yun ganun number.

Meron nga tsismis na magkamali dahil overzealous na Makuha. Since nagkasubuan na pinangatawan na lang daw and tsismis.


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Yep, their bid premium was really aggressive. Daming taas kilay sa business community.

May also explain why RSA is really pushing for his CyberBay Airport pet project [another story/thread].

[CVT]

napakamahal ng paninindigan na yan. sisante siguro ang team na gumawa ng proposal na yan kung totoo nagkamali lang sa estimate.

A similar thing happened to Ayala when they bid on the development of FTI (ARCA).

Their bid is significantly higher than the second placer, and they pulled out of the Bacolod project/bid...

[WallyWest]

May lusot na ba from skyway going to cavitex? I haven't seen any vehicles going down sa cavitex exit ramp puro paakyat lang.

Tsaka till when free ang toll?

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[confused shoes]

May lusot na ba from skyway going to cavitex? I haven't seen any vehicles going down sa cavitex exit ramp puro paakyat lang.

Tsaka till when free ang toll?

Tapatalked

Meron na. Tatlo exit doon. Macapagal, Entertainment City, at Cavite. Rightmost ang Cavite

[WallyWest]

Meron na. Tatlo exit doon. Macapagal, Entertainment City, at Cavite. Rightmost ang Cavite

Ok, thanks! Anyways, I avoided cavitex on the way back. I remembered how terribly heavy traffic gets at the toll plaza so I exited at Resorts world then domestic to sucat.

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