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    I know na yun ibang kasama natin dito has a B-plate vehicle. I also have a B plate vehicle which I own for already 5 years. Now I wonder how will this law affect owners of vehicles that were "surplus"

    LTO, Customs to strictly enforce EO 156 ban on 'surplus cars' - News | TopGear.com.ph

    It's official: The Land Transportation Office has announced that it will uphold "the constitutionality and legality of Executive Order 156" and go after used vehicles that were imported illegally into the Philippines.

    "We would like to warn the general public and those who still entertain the thought of buying cheap and readily available surplus vehicles...to drop such a silly idea or suffer the consequences of being inconvenienced in the difficulty of the renewal of its registration in the future," the LTO said in a statement. "All motor vehicles registered in violation of EO 156 can never be renewed again. If ever renewed, such registration is considered illegal and any LTO official found to have registered vehicles in violation of EO 156 can be held criminally and administratively liable for his illegal acts."

    Executive Order 877, which incidentally was also signed by then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (who signed EO 156 in 2002), states that used vehicles may still be brought into the country but these cannot go outside the "secured, fenced-in freeport zones."

    "We will uphold the recent Supreme Court ruling and enforce all the provisions of EO 156 regarding restrictions on the importation of used cars," added Bureau of Customs commissioner Ruffy Biazon. "I advise car buyers to be sure of the vehicles they are buying and to get them only at legitimate sources and dealers."
    Credits to Ry_Tower for posting this one sa Subic Pajero thread.

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    I wonder why R-plate is not covered. Dahil ba sa subic and not cagayan. This is really bothersome. Sana may clarity na.

    Mine is an R-plate kasi.

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    Bro, as per reading, lahat ng import ay covered, whether B plate or R plate. Ang gripe ko lang dito eh paano yun mga sasakyan na legally imported dito sa atin. It is really bothersome talaga to a point na pwede na naman itong maging miking cow ng ilang corrupted officials natin. Nag-aalala ako sa law na ito at nakakainis pag iniisip ko siya ngayon.

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    Subscribing...I have a B-plate vehicle from Korea as well...I have legal papers on hand...i would be better kung moving forward, ipagbawal nila, pero yung gigipitin nila yung ilang taon nang andito yung auto, mukhang ginisa ka sa sarili mong mantika lalabas nito...
    Last edited by mateomarco; February 18th, 2013 at 05:45 PM.

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    I wonder if this will do. Kung pwede na papalitan yun plaka ng sasakyan para hindi na siya maging B o R plate, hahaha!

    Napapaiyak ako pag iniisip ko yan. Ayaw ko naman bitawan ang Precious ko nang ganun ganun lang.

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    ^ same sentiment here. Magiging malaking rolling junk paj ko niyan if ever magkatotoo.

    I believe dapat yung andito na prior to the SC's ruling should be able to use their vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    ^ same sentiment here. Magiging malaking rolling junk paj ko niyan if ever magkatotoo.

    I believe dapat yung andito na prior to the SC's ruling should be able to use their vehicle.
    Bili ka na ng lok-bu na lokal Pajero tapos ilipat mo na most of your parts to that. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Bili ka na ng lok-bu na lokal Pajero tapos ilipat mo na most of your parts to that. :D
    Naisip ko na yan, pero ang plan ko, recreational vehicle kuno ang pajero at i-mod ko na lang. Pang-sagasa ng buwisit sa kalye (bump cars anyone).

    Tapos bili na lang new SUV. wahhhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    I believe dapat yung andito na prior to the SC's ruling should be able to use their vehicle.
    Let us see. Knowing how Philippines make laws eh ang daming loop holes nito. Pero lang kasi, let's say in good faith naipasok yun sasakyan, eh dapat hindi nila yun isama. Mukhang kelangan ko ibalik ulit yun tax papers ng sasakyan ko at isama sa lalagyan ko ng rehistro

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Let us see. Knowing how Philippines make laws eh ang daming loop holes nito. Pero lang kasi, let's say in good faith naipasok yun sasakyan, eh dapat hindi nila yun isama. Mukhang kelangan ko ibalik ulit yun tax papers ng sasakyan ko at isama sa lalagyan ko ng rehistro

    Sa pag kakaintitndi ko, yung E.O. 156 was and still enforced sa SuBic. Ang humingi ng TRO is CEZA since di raw sila covered nun and it pertains only to subic. Kaya ngaun lang nag labas ng SC ruling as to the interpretation of the E.O.

    Kung me problema sa LTO yung mga imports Subic before pa mag ruling ang SC hindi ma re-renew. Pero na re-renew naman di ba for the past years? I'm guessing same scenario saten na mga B-plates na issued before SC decission. Since Customs cleared the units before it can be initially registered, nakakatawa naman ang customs nun kung urong sulong ang clearance nila di ba?

    From the news as what I understand from commissioner Biazon said, units imported after the SC decision will not be issued cumstoms clearance/tax payment. Therefore cannot leave the Port and CEZA and cannot be registered with the LTO. Although they can still be used inside the facility.

    I'm just wondering bakit sa TG article ko lang narinig yang "cannot be renewed" while other major news agencies like ABS-CBN.TV5, and GMA 7 wala naman report na ganyan. Even Broadsheet News Papers...

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    Ry_Tower:

    Kung susundin yang sinasabi mo na yung mga nandito na prior to the SC's ruling, the date of reckoning should be December 12, 2002. That was the day the EO was signed. One can argue that the SC re-affirmed the constitutionality of EO 156 on Jan. 7, 2013, but that only strengthens the order, and does not negate it in any way.

    Testament11: I get what you're trying to say here, but what exactly is "in good faith"? It is at best an abstract term. If you read up on EO 156, there is a very small window for bringing in a used passenger car. This is a one-time, VERY EXPENSIVE privilege given to balikbayans or returning residents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Good faith, what I mean here is all taxes have been paid by the importer. Yan kasi yun nakikita kong question lang. Paano naman kung nabayaran ng importer yun mga taxes na kailangan para makapasok dito yun sasakyan? Huhuliin pa rin ba nila ako dahil illegally pumasok ang sasakyan ko, where in fact hawak ko yun mga papel na kailangan?
    I think the proper way is to let the previous owners, before this EO was implemented, still register their vehicles. Yung mga soon to be owners nalang, or at least if registration is made after the EO has been implemented ang i-prohibit from registering their vehicles again. Kawawa naman mga nag-buhos ng madaming pera sa jap imports na oto nila, mawawala ng ganun ganun lang -- esp. That 900++ whp R34

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    I guess the engines of all these soon-to-be retired surplus vehicles can't be used either since they won't have legit papers. Pity...that was a great source of engines to keep old clunkers going.

    On the brighter side, sooner or later all those old lung-blackening rolling-coffin jeepneys are gonna run out of 4BA1s and 4D32s. Adios smoky rattle-trap symbol of backwardness!

    Holy smokes, the gov't might actually know what it's doing

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    Light trucks are exempted from the importation ban including parts and components.

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    Ang sakit nito sa ulo. Naka bili ako ng Honda CRV 2004 Second hand from Honda Cars Isabela, Ang problema nasa mindanao ngayon yung unit.
    Yari ako nito sa mga HPG, LTO Tuwing checkpoints. Ang problema malabong xerox copy na lang ang kopya ko ng CR from the first owner bearing encumbered from Honda Cars Inv. Wala na rin yung mga papeles sa mortgage. Nakagalay sa CR ko, Encumbered from 00000000000. Pwede na kayang proof yan? Kasi baka makikipag debate ako sa manghuhuli para patunayan na local unit ko.

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    Soyuz1234: Just show them that the year model on your CR matches the date of first registration. That's enough proof that your car was purchased new. The LTO can tell a used import just by comparing these two figures... Date of first reg, and year model. Pag may mismatch, ipinasok siya as segunda mano. Good luck!

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    O yeah that's right. That made some clarifications. Also I can pin point the plate number, (Rizal Monument) matches the year model of the car 2004.

    Nagka issue kasi ako sa HPG nung ni try ko mag transfer ownership from to a relative at kuha sana ako ng clearance, pinipilit nila na dahil B plate at import daw. Ang problema wala na ang mga papeles from first owner, nasa LTO na. Nakalimutan ko sabihin yung series ng plaka (Rizal Monument)

    HPG lang talaga pinaka problema ko, lalo na sa mga checkpoints. Kaya as much as possible, marami akong proof para tameme sila hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soyuz1234 View Post
    Ang sakit nito sa ulo. Naka bili ako ng Honda CRV 2004 Second hand from Honda Cars Isabela, Ang problema nasa mindanao ngayon yung unit.
    Yari ako nito sa mga HPG, LTO Tuwing checkpoints. Ang problema malabong xerox copy na lang ang kopya ko ng CR from the first owner bearing encumbered from Honda Cars Inv. Wala na rin yung mga papeles sa mortgage. Nakagalay sa CR ko, Encumbered from 00000000000. Pwede na kayang proof yan? Kasi baka makikipag debate ako sa manghuhuli para patunayan na local unit ko.
    Wala bang conduction sticker? Sayang. Sana enough proof na yun na local yung oto mo.

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    Wala bang conduction sticker? Sayang. Sana enough proof na yun na local yung oto mo.
    Oo nga sir sayang, kasi tinanggal na simula ng nakabitan ng plaka. Hindi na rin naitago

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Wala bang conduction sticker? Sayang. Sana enough proof na yun na local yung oto mo.
    The chassis and engine number should be able to prove that your car is a local unit. Local units usually have PH starting on the engine numbers and PA starting on the chassis numbers if I remember correctly. Not to mention that it is very east to differentiate a local unit from a converted unit.

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