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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    I'm sure if there's a will, there will be a way. Bakit si Ampatuan, Palasyo ang gumalaw para arestuhin siya? E tutuusin, local massacre yun. ;)

    Yung mga lawyers sa Palasyo should work double time, overtime, to find a loophole so they can sink their teeth into this matter and find a solution. Unless, of course, they don't want to solve it. ;) Whatever happens, imahe lang naman ni PNOY ang ultimately affected, siya pa naman lagging binibida economic achievements niya. :D
    massacre is a crime.. unless you can say that banning trucks is also a criminal act..

    actually there are solutions to the problem. why keep on insisting trucks to pass by manila?

    the palace should come up with plans.. one is to totally transfer the ports out of manila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    I'm sure if there's a will, there will be a way. Bakit si Ampatuan, Palasyo ang gumalaw para arestuhin siya? E tutuusin, local massacre yun. ;)

    Yung mga lawyers sa Palasyo should work double time, overtime, to find a loophole so they can sink their teeth into this matter and find a solution. Unless, of course, they don't want to solve it. ;) Whatever happens, imahe lang naman ni PNOY ang ultimately affected, siya pa naman lagging binibida economic achievements niya. :D
    massacre is a crime.. unless you can say that banning trucks is also a criminal act..

    actually there are solutions to the problem. why keep on insisting trucks to pass by manila?

    the palace should come up with plans.. one is to totally transfer the ports out of manila.

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    massacre is a crime.. unless you can say that banning trucks is also a criminal act..
    The keyword was LOCAL. Ke anong krimen pa yan, andun ang LOCAL police to arrest Ampatuan. Bakit kelangan papuntahin yung military at alipores ni GMA para sunduin/arestuhin si Ampatuan? Gets?

    Yung nga Hostage Drama sa Manila dami nagalit hinde si PNoy ang direkta nag manage ng sitwasyon.

    OTOH, is Economic Sabotage not a CRIME? ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    The keyword was LOCAL. Ke anong krimen pa yan, andun ang LOCAL police to arrest Ampatuan. Bakit kelangan papuntahin yung military at alipores ni GMA para sunduin/arestuhin si Ampatuan? Gets?

    Yung nga Hostage Drama sa Manila dami nagalit hinde si PNoy ang direkta nag manage ng sitwasyon.

    OTOH, is Economic Sabotage not a CRIME? ;)
    that is because the ampatuans are the "local" government and they were the ones involved in the crime. that is why malacanang (as a supervisor) steps in. if you remove the ampatuans you remove the government, palace supervise. same with the romualdezes although they are hit by haiyan, the palace tries to take over but the local government (romualdez) resisted saying the local government is still present and malacanang should help and not take over..

    hostage drama in manila is local and should be handled by the mayor. but as president he should have supervised the situation.

    prove in court that banning trucks from passing manila is an economic sabotage

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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post

    prove in court that banning trucks from passing manila is an economic sabotage
    use common sense. ports are in Manila. you need to transfer goods from the ports to trucks.
    and you're suggestion of transferring the ports from Manila in the short term is not that viable.

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    My take on the matter...

    Because of this truck ban, prices of ALL commodities have shot through the roof simply because of the domino effect it had on the supply chain. Both international ports (POM and MICP) are already beyond operational capacity since the turn around time of container vans (time it takes for a container van to leave the port until same container returns to port) has now become increasingly longer. Carrier vessels (container ships) now have to wait an average of SEVEN (7) days at sea before they can dock. Add to it the additional charges that both shipping lines and trucking companies now charge to cover up losses incurred.

    For starters, almost 8 months ago a 40' container van that would be brought to a Paco warehouse from the POM would be charged Php 3,000.00. Now, for the same distance, the going rate is Php 30,000.00

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    the port of batangas is as under-used, as the port of manila is over-burdened..
    but i guess, it's not that easy to transfer your business, as all your acquaintances are here in manila...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the port of batangas is as under-used, as the port of manila is over-burdened..
    but i guess, it's not that easy to transfer your business, as all your acquaintances are here in manila...
    good point. but I think there might be a reason. baka yung lahat ng dadaanan ng truck ay may "gift" sa lahat ng municipalities. haays.

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    Congested ports a sign of improving economy ? Palace | Economy | GMA News Online
    Look on the bright side. Congestion at Manila ports shows the economy is lively, a Palace official said Sunday.

    "Dapat din po nating kilalanin na ito (port congestion) ay isang pagpapakita rin ng masiglang pag-unlad ng ating ekonomiya na napakarami talagang mga kargamentong dumarating sa ating pantalan, ‘yung Port of Manila," Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma Jr. said of container vans that have piled up at the port.

    "Patuloy pa rin pong inaasikaso ‘yan lahat ng mga awtoridad at pinagtutulungan ng iba’t ibang ahensya ng pamahalaan na makalikha po tayo ng iba’t ibang hakbang at alternatibo para ma-address ‘yang sitwasyong ‘yan," he said in an interview over government radio dzRB.

    Coloma said that cargo may be coursed through other ports in the country as an alternative to the ports in Manila.

    "Kailangan lang isaayos ‘yung logistical arrangement dahil meron naman po tayong iba’t ibang mga pasilidad, katulad ng sa Batangas at Subic, na maaari rin namang magamit para sa transshipment ng mga kargamento na galing sa ibang bansa," he said.

    Port congestion has resulted in delayed deliveries and has been blamed for price increases in goods like fruits and chicken. Analysts have also warned that port congestion may impact economic growth and the competitiveness of Philippine goods.

    The Philippine Ports Authority earlier identified the City of Manila's daytime truck ban as the leading cause of port congestion.

    It cited that around 5,000 container vans land at the Port of Manila daily, however, due to the truck ban, only a fraction of those get to leave the port.


    Manila Mayor Joseph Estrada, who has extended an existing truck ban in the city, said that the daytime truck ban will continue despite protests and allegations that the truck ban caused the overcrowding.

    Estrada said the city government has provided a 24-hour express lane for cargo trucks going in and out of the port. — Rouchelle R. Dinglasan/JDS, GMA News

    it all comes down to poor planning

    the decades old Manila road network couldnt handle the large number of motor vehicles

    Erap's way to deal with traffic is to ban trucks during daytime resulting in the buildup of container vans at the port of Manila
    Last edited by uls; August 18th, 2014 at 11:12 AM.

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    Manila lifts controversial truck ban
    Manila officials lift the truck ban 'indefinitely' to help ease port congestion

    MANILA, Philippines – Saying they are heeding the request of the national government and concerned sectors, the city of Manila has lifted the daytime truck ban beginning 12 noon Saturday, September 13.

    City officials, led by Manila Mayor Joseph Estrada, made the announcement in a news briefing on Saturday.

    "I'm giving way to the national government," Estrada said, in response to questions.

    The removal of the truck ban will be “indefinite,” city officials said. – Rappler.com

    Details to follow
    Manila lifts controversial truck ban

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