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  1. Join Date
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    According to a couple of LTO folks that I know, all motor vehicies, whether PUV or PV, would be required to install RFIDs on their winshields starting October 1. Sabi din nila, it should be placed where it would be "most visible" on the windshield. Cost is 300-350 pesos. Pero since hindi naman daw lahat makakabile agad, may grace period sila bago manghuli.

    EDSA traveler here. Pardon my negativity but I can just imagine MMDA traffic personnel having a field day apprehending vehicles that do not have RFID attached. Good intentions from LTO perhaps but another possible source of kotong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon View Post
    Sabi din nila, it should be placed where it would be "most visible" on the windshield.
    RFID yan, kahet san pa nakalagay yan, they should be able to detect if one vehicle has it or not.


    nothing against you sir, sa context lang ng sinasabi nila
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 24th, 2009 at 09:01 AM. Reason: corrected quoting

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    upon further thought of this issue... lalo ko naisip na the people who are proposing this scheme should really have a high level of service, or talagang dagdag kita lang talaga ito...

    granted they get past beyond the opposition to the RFID tags and the RFID scanners, for this to work, kailangan reliable tama ang capability ng network kung saan dadaan ang data.... ji think it's highly impossible to put all the contents of the database into the scanners.. since on a daily basis may mga bagong registration... they have to put in in a central repository where it will be queried..

    what will the network infrastructure be? ready na ba sila? eh dun lang sa LTO registration eh mukhang problematic na yung network backbone nila.... kung mababa ang level of service ng network sa LTO registration, would they use the same backbone / infrastructure for this RFID system? kung ganun... i think this is really a fast way to earn not just a buck...

    but if I put it on the other side.. I will speculate that a big chunk of the price will go to the network infrastructure...

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    We are told that validity is 10 years

    Just maybe after a couple year this technology is already obsolete

    Sweet talking from the people behind this

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    campaign money lang yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by jundogg View Post
    RFID yan, kahet san pa nakalagay yan, they should be able to detect if one vehicle has it or not.
    Windshield is the best location. The RFID signal may be blocked or shortened it's range easily enough by the metal sheet of the car if placed in the wrong location.

    Of course, if you want to block the signal intentionally, a simple sheet of metal mesh is enough to shield it (Faraday cage principle).

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    found on other site....

    Reading tags on individual store items will be tricky, however, and spies will find it hard to track items with handheld readers or those mounted in doorways. A sheet of aluminum foil is many times thicker than it needs to be to shield an RFID signal, said ThingMagic's Reynolds. The signals are also disrupted by human flesh, which is made mostly of salt water: an RFID tag inside your fist cannot be read.
    RFID tag systems, said Reynolds, also suffer from limited range. The readers -- due to FCC tag power limits and design limitations on tag antenna sizes -- work at distances up to about 20 meters. "In practice we see far less read range than that," he said.
    Reynolds said he'd favor a "modest increase" in the receiver sensitivity limits set by the FCC.
    But he pointed out that a laminated anti-static bag, for example, would not be readable by even a more potent system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james00112233 View Post
    found on other site....
    RFID tags differ greatly depending on application. The ones used for in-store security and price-tagging is the low power type. I would think the ones used for vehicles will be more powerful. But of course, will still suffer similar problems of interference or shielding (as experienced by those using e-pass payment for NLEX and SLEX).

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    yung owner type jeepney namin due for reg na this october, ibig nyo sabihin kahit yung bulok naming owner na kargahan ng paninda ay kakabitan din ng rf id? hahaha
    e andito kami sa province wala namang nanghuhuli na lto dito. di nga nakakarating ng bayan owner namin pang bukid lang. pero yearly nireregister pa rin namin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donald22 View Post
    yung owner type jeepney namin due for reg na this october, ibig nyo sabihin kahit yung bulok naming owner na kargahan ng paninda ay kakabitan din ng rf id? hahaha
    e andito kami sa province wala namang nanghuhuli na lto dito. di nga nakakarating ng bayan owner namin pang bukid lang. pero yearly nireregister pa rin namin.
    tingin ko mas madali itong ma roll out since sticker / RFID lang na dapat idikit sa sasakyan... ang mas matagal nito ay yung hardware / network infrastructure sa mga readers...

    imagine.. even if a scanner / reader can read to a range of 100 feet... impossible naman makapag lagay ng reader ang government at every street kung talagang pang surveillance... the most they can do is put in select spots and do a count... say during peak hours ilan ang dumadaan, off peak hours ilang vehicles... for statistics malalaman din kung public private etc...

    si Honorable Congressman Casino naghahabol na makapag latag ng TRO bago ma implement ito by Oct1.. let's see what happens...

LTO to implement RFID tags