Elevated U-turn at C-5/Kalayaan (Merged Threads)

[ringostarr]

dapat talaga i-ban na kagad ang franchise ng jeepney sa C5 hangga't maaga pa, kasi pag dumami na yan at tapos na termino ni GMA at BF, hindi mo na mapaalis yan kasi may TODA na yan may alyansa sa mga aktibista

yun C5 part ng Eastwood na ever since maluwag noon araw, ng nilagyan ng jeepney gumrabe. nun wala pa Medical City sa Ortigas, smooth flowing from Rosario Flyover to Meralco pero ngaun dami na pasahero Medical grabe sumikip din

Sila talaga may kasalanan ng lahat. bakit kasi walang magtayo ng nationwide vigilante group na namamaril ng gulong ng jeepney kahit yun pang-tranquilizer lang walang gunpowder para naman makaganti tayo mo private motorists paminsan-minsan

[Radical!]

Will it help? Marginally, yes. Though they should have just pushed thru with the DPWH's original plan. They spent billions constructing the whole of C5, billions (on Japanese loan grants) on the Ortigas-C5 flyover, then they scrimp on this. Sayang.

same thoughts with bmwboxxercup.. minsan talaga may sablay din si bayani..

C-5 Kalayaan is better off with the same system that EDSA-Quezon Ave. is using.

Fly-over interchange for Kalayaan and Underpass for C-5 or vise versa.

I understand that this was DPWH's original plan. The implementation was delayed year after year due to right of way problems and the bureaucracy. Fernando came in with a much 'cheaper' alternative and GMA gave the nod.

[4wrider]

Delayed infrastructure projects are direct consequences of excessive investigative work by legislative bodies and by government executives both local and national dipping their dirty fingers in other people's money.

BF is just doing something outside the box because the bureaucratic box has become a snakepit.

[ringostarr]

kung ako si BF tatanggalin ko lang franchise ng jeepney solb na yan di na kelangan ng u-turn

[ale828]

Will it help? Marginally, yes. Though they should have just pushed thru with the DPWH's original plan. They spent billions constructing the whole of C5, billions (on Japanese loan grants) on the Ortigas-C5 flyover, then they scrimp on this. Sayang.


I understand that this was DPWH's original plan. The implementation was delayed year after year due to right of way problems and the bureaucracy. Fernando came in with a much 'cheaper' alternative and GMA gave the nod.

This is true. Several years ago pa dapat nag start yung proposed DPWH flyover in C-5 kalayaan but rumor has it BF was Blocking its implementation. BF instead proposed this elevated U-turn which supposedly costs less than a full flyover but implemented by the MMDA instead of the DPWH. So you know who gets what.
This U-turn would work if the PUV, buses and jeepneys don't block the entrance or exit ramps of the U-turn. But as you know those undisciplined drivers will always do this making the elevated U-turn less likely to succeed.
The middle island of the C-5 kalayann intersection is being removed so that the C-5 in itself will be wider when completed.

[ronw123w124]

I think common sense lang naman ang kailangan dito which sadly MR. MMDA doesn't have, common sense dictates that what we need is a flyover in the C5/Kalayaan area and not some stupid elevated u-turn ramp. Kung hindi lang hinarang ni BF yan noon eh di sana tapos na ang kalbaryo nating mga motorista.

[batangmahal]

Dapat talaga dun, flyover na lang. Long-term solution, rather than an elevated u-turn slot. Waste of time and money. Furthermore, we need also to discipline our fellow drivers, especially those in the public transpo category.

[ringostarr]

This is true. Several years ago pa dapat nag start yung proposed DPWH flyover in C-5 kalayaan but rumor has it BF was Blocking its implementation. BF instead proposed this elevated U-turn which supposedly costs less than a full flyover but implemented by the MMDA instead of the DPWH. So you know who gets what.
This U-turn would work if the PUV, buses and jeepneys don't block the entrance or exit ramps of the U-turn. But as you know those undisciplined drivers will always do this making the elevated U-turn less likely to succeed.
The middle island of the C-5 kalayann intersection is being removed so that the C-5 in itself will be wider when completed.

nope. it was Binay who was opposing the idea not bec. he did not want a flyover. he contested over who has jurisdiction of the intersection, Taguig, Makati, Pasig or MMDA. kaya mga 2-3 years ago, may mga MAPSA pa as far that area

kaya dahil dun hindi malagyan-lagyan ng flyover yan. now that Binay has been weakened sa sunod-sunod na banat ng Administration, nakakilos na sila BF and GMA, sa wakas nakakilos din

[wildthing]

Dapat talaga dun, flyover na lang. Long-term solution, rather than an elevated u-turn slot....

ano po kaya ang technical basis of saying na long-term solution ang flyover over an elevated U-turn slot???

[ringostarr]

kung nadaan ka from Pasig to South Expressway, long-term solution yan para sa'yo hahaha.

pero kung nadaan ka from Taguig to Makati or Pasig to Makati, sigurado sa ilalim ka dadaan kasama ng PUVs. iyan ewan ko lang ko long-term

kung minsan kasi wag isipin pangsarili lang benefit.