LTFRB to reduce buses in EDSA by 1,000

[goldencoil]

Napanood ko din po sa news ito. Heto po yung link sa article...

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/hom...a-by-1000.html


OK din to kasi luluwag yung traffic sa EDSA tsaka mababawasan yung mga barumbadong bus drivers. Bawas kotong na din.

Pero syempre, on the other hand, madami din mawawalan ng trabaho.

*mods, paki merge na lang po kung may existing thread na.

[ghosthunter]

It is about time the government moved to reduce the overpopulation of buses on EDSA.

[ans_lim168]

They should have done this years ago, many measures could be done like modernization of units, strict implementation on franchising rules and the like. Unfortunately, LTFRB always suck up to the whines and rants of bus operators, let's see what Asec. Suansing will do during his term.

[OldSchoolHack]

Seems more like a stop-gap measure than a real solution. The immediate beneficiaries are the driving public. Kawawa mawawalan ng trabaho pero that's the price to pay for this move.

Kung titignan mo kaya super trapik na sa EDSA e ang mga siyudad na dinadaanan ng EDSA (Caloocan-QC-Mandaluyong-Makati-Pasay) e continue ang growth kahit hindi na kaya ng pampublikong daan (blame it to city planning).

Continous growth+static road network+growing no of vehicles == traffic + waste fuel + waste time + financial loses

isang component lang ang number of vehicles sa problemang ito.

[a3n3as]

I think may plan din to reduce number of jeepneys around Metro Manila.

[Monseratto]

Good Luck to LTFRB chairman Alberto Suansing. He'll need a lot of it to get this going. MMDA Chairman Fernando tried the same thing but GMA blocked his effort. Using the possible losses of jobs as an excuse...

[Altis6453]

IMHO, the government does not need the transport sector's consent or approval of the move to reduce buses in EDSA. Remember, they were granted a franchise to provide services as a common carrier and such franchise may be revoked or amended at any time by the authority which granted it.

Sorry for the bleeding hearts out there, but I just don't subscribe to the excuse that "maraming mawawalan ng kabuhayan". Try telling that to passengers or people who've died or been maimed for life due to reckless and imprudent drivers and operators of PUBs.

Good. Now get a job somewhere else.

[jave]

*Altis6453:

*nods* No mercy for irresponsible morons on the road. Not when lives are at stake.

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I was watching TV Patrol yesterday regarding this and saw that annoying bus operator spokesperson whine about lost jobs. I think what she really meant was lost income on their part.

[huggybear]

Same old story sirs...remember time pa ni Elena Bautista yan...what happened to her??? She was transfered to MARINA to become USec

[Altis6453]

I think Elena Bautista was transferred because she started to hit back at the bus operators' abuses by revoking franchises (yep, even for those buses operated by ex-AFP/PNP generals). I remember they were doing "tigil-pasadas" quite frequently due to the hefty increase in fines for traffic violators.

Nag-sipag reklamo dahil sobrang taas daw ng mga multa. Eh kung di ba naman sila mga b0b0. Simply comply with all traffic rules and regs at walang problema. Hirap dito imbes na sumunod sa batas, gagawa nalang ng lusot.

Fines are meant to be really high so that the offender will think twice before repeating his offense or violating another traffic law for that matter.

[niky]

Let's hope they can make it stick... for both buses and jeepneys.

Yes, part of the traffic problem is due to overpopulation and the large numbers of cars on the streets.

But the oversaturation of public transport has a lot to do with this.

This is because many people don't want to take public transport. It's inefficient, inconvenient and incredibly slow.

This is because there are too many franchises granted by the LTFRB in years gone by, with no eye on the maximum capacity of the route these PUVs are taking. Add to that the insane number of colorum jeepneys in and around the metro and outlying areas.

Jeeps jockeying for passengers cause traffic. Some drivers will pull over and wait for passengers. Others will stop right beside them, in the middle of the road, trying to entice those same passengers away.

With the huge number of jeeps and buses, the passenger density is low. Drivers resort to waiting five, ten, fifteen, twenty minutes to get passengers, simply because there are none. This is why I stopped riding buses on EDSA and take the MRT... take the wrong bus and you can spend one freaking hour just at the stops along the way... turning a thirty-forty minute commute into a two hour ordeal.

Know why PUV operators and drivers are suffering? It's not gas prices. It's competition. Fewer passengers per vehicle equates to a huge waste in time, money and fuel. Of coruse, we could let natural selection weed out the weaker operators... but really... with the cost of a secondhand jeep or bus being so ridiculously low, there will be five more taking the place of any failed franchise, unless the government finally puts its foot down and says "enough is enough".

So...

What's the next step?

All colorum vehicles go straight to the crusher? :hysterical: I'd vote for that.

[Altis6453]

This is because many people don't want to take public transport. It's inefficient, inconvenient and incredibly slow.

Not to mention that PUBs/PUJs are inherently UNSAFE due to questionable roadworthiness and driver skills.

[BratPAQ]

kung ang sakay ng isang bus eh magkokotse lahat, diba mas masikip ang daan? dapat ibalik din yung batas na bawal sa mga piling kalsada yung sasakyang pribado na isa lang ang sakay.

[Altis6453]

kung ang sakay ng isang bus eh magkokotse lahat, diba mas masikip ang daan? dapat ibalik din yung batas na bawal sa mga piling kalsada yung sasakyang pribado na isa lang ang sakay.

Kung ganun ang pangangatuwiran mo, eh di dapat lahat din ng bus at jeep eh hindi pinagbibiyahe kapag walang laman o kaya kalahti lang ang laman.

Ang punto lang dito e simple, sobrang dami ng bus, legal o colorum na gumagamit ng daan at karapat dapat lang bawasan.

[BratPAQ]

Kung ganun ang pangangatuwiran mo, eh di dapat lahat din ng bus at jeep eh hindi pinagbibiyahe kapag walang laman o kaya kalahti lang ang laman.

Ang punto lang dito e simple, sobrang dami ng bus, legal o colorum na gumagamit ng daan at karapat dapat lang bawasan.

while i agree that bus are over crowded on edsa, but they are not the only one overcrowding that street. heres a picture.

[CVT]

Kaya siguro ginawang 24 hours(?) ang serbisyo ng MRT, in preparation for the reduction/eventual elimination of buses in EDSA.....

8303:dishwash:

[huggybear]

In some countries, like India, the driver's and conductor's salaries are based on the number of kilometers traveled by the bus, unlike ours which is commission based.

Baka pag ganito ang sistema e maiwasan na ang pagbabad ng mga bus.

[BratPAQ]

In some countries, like India, the driver's and conductor's salaries are based on the number of kilometers traveled by the bus, unlike ours which is commission based.

Baka pag ganito ang sistema e maiwasan na ang pagbabad ng mga bus.

di yata pede sa pinoy to, mautak pinoy aandar lang ng aandar yang bus at di na pipickup ng pasahero para makarami ng km. :D

sa ibang bansa naman may mga government route at mga driver dito eh fixed ang salary, at scheduled ang bus every 30 minutes, hirap nga lang pag dating mo at kaalis pa lang ng bus, maghihintay ka pa ng 30 minutes.

[BratPAQ]

Kaya siguro ginawang 24 hours(?) ang serbisyo ng MRT, in preparation for the reduction/eventual elimination of buses in EDSA.....

8303:dishwash:

2 days lang nangyari yung 24hrs, ginawa nila hanggang 1am na lang, its really for night shifts. about total elimination of bus in edsa, thats not gonna happen anytime soon.

[_Qwerty_]

yup.. up to 1AM lang ang MRT... tapos after 11pm.. ang dalang na nang interval nang train.. they open at 5AM.