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    #11
    Let's hope they can make it stick... for both buses and jeepneys.

    Yes, part of the traffic problem is due to overpopulation and the large numbers of cars on the streets.

    But the oversaturation of public transport has a lot to do with this.

    This is because many people don't want to take public transport. It's inefficient, inconvenient and incredibly slow.

    This is because there are too many franchises granted by the LTFRB in years gone by, with no eye on the maximum capacity of the route these PUVs are taking. Add to that the insane number of colorum jeepneys in and around the metro and outlying areas.

    Jeeps jockeying for passengers cause traffic. Some drivers will pull over and wait for passengers. Others will stop right beside them, in the middle of the road, trying to entice those same passengers away.

    With the huge number of jeeps and buses, the passenger density is low. Drivers resort to waiting five, ten, fifteen, twenty minutes to get passengers, simply because there are none. This is why I stopped riding buses on EDSA and take the MRT... take the wrong bus and you can spend one freaking hour just at the stops along the way... turning a thirty-forty minute commute into a two hour ordeal.

    Know why PUV operators and drivers are suffering? It's not gas prices. It's competition. Fewer passengers per vehicle equates to a huge waste in time, money and fuel. Of coruse, we could let natural selection weed out the weaker operators... but really... with the cost of a secondhand jeep or bus being so ridiculously low, there will be five more taking the place of any failed franchise, unless the government finally puts its foot down and says "enough is enough".

    So...

    What's the next step?

    All colorum vehicles go straight to the crusher? :hysterical: I'd vote for that.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    This is because many people don't want to take public transport. It's inefficient, inconvenient and incredibly slow.
    Not to mention that PUBs/PUJs are inherently UNSAFE due to questionable roadworthiness and driver skills.

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    #13
    kung ang sakay ng isang bus eh magkokotse lahat, diba mas masikip ang daan? dapat ibalik din yung batas na bawal sa mga piling kalsada yung sasakyang pribado na isa lang ang sakay.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    kung ang sakay ng isang bus eh magkokotse lahat, diba mas masikip ang daan? dapat ibalik din yung batas na bawal sa mga piling kalsada yung sasakyang pribado na isa lang ang sakay.
    Kung ganun ang pangangatuwiran mo, eh di dapat lahat din ng bus at jeep eh hindi pinagbibiyahe kapag walang laman o kaya kalahti lang ang laman.

    Ang punto lang dito e simple, sobrang dami ng bus, legal o colorum na gumagamit ng daan at karapat dapat lang bawasan.

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Kung ganun ang pangangatuwiran mo, eh di dapat lahat din ng bus at jeep eh hindi pinagbibiyahe kapag walang laman o kaya kalahti lang ang laman.

    Ang punto lang dito e simple, sobrang dami ng bus, legal o colorum na gumagamit ng daan at karapat dapat lang bawasan.
    while i agree that bus are over crowded on edsa, but they are not the only one overcrowding that street. heres a picture.

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    #16

    Kaya siguro ginawang 24 hours(?) ang serbisyo ng MRT, in preparation for the reduction/eventual elimination of buses in EDSA.....

    8303:dishwash:

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    #17
    In some countries, like India, the driver's and conductor's salaries are based on the number of kilometers traveled by the bus, unlike ours which is commission based.

    Baka pag ganito ang sistema e maiwasan na ang pagbabad ng mga bus.

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by huggybear View Post
    In some countries, like India, the driver's and conductor's salaries are based on the number of kilometers traveled by the bus, unlike ours which is commission based.

    Baka pag ganito ang sistema e maiwasan na ang pagbabad ng mga bus.
    di yata pede sa pinoy to, mautak pinoy aandar lang ng aandar yang bus at di na pipickup ng pasahero para makarami ng km. :D

    sa ibang bansa naman may mga government route at mga driver dito eh fixed ang salary, at scheduled ang bus every 30 minutes, hirap nga lang pag dating mo at kaalis pa lang ng bus, maghihintay ka pa ng 30 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Kaya siguro ginawang 24 hours(?) ang serbisyo ng MRT, in preparation for the reduction/eventual elimination of buses in EDSA.....

    8303:dishwash:
    2 days lang nangyari yung 24hrs, ginawa nila hanggang 1am na lang, its really for night shifts. about total elimination of bus in edsa, thats not gonna happen anytime soon.

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    #20
    yup.. up to 1AM lang ang MRT... tapos after 11pm.. ang dalang na nang interval nang train.. they open at 5AM.

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