Alternative Fuel Vehicles Incentives Act (SB 2856)

[DonCamote]

Here is a breath of fresh air for us looking for environmentally friendly ride.

The Alternative Fuel Vehicles Incentives Act (SB 2856) aims to encourage use of electric or hybrid cars in the country.

- Reduce the price of electric or hybrid cars by eliminating/lowering most taxes imposed on their manufacture (excise taxes and VAT).
- Encourage customers to buy them by the following:
- Libreng registration
- Walang 'coding' use your car all day of the week
- Free parking - this law mandates building owners to provide free parking to eco-friendly cars

[fourtheboys96]

Here is a breath of fresh air for us looking for environmentally friendly ride.

The Alternative Fuel Vehicles Incentives Act (SB 2856) aims to encourage use of electric or hybrid cars in the country.

- Reduce the price of electric or hybrid cars by eliminating/lowering most taxes imposed on their manufacture (excise taxes and VAT).
- Encourage customers to buy them by the following:
- Libreng registration
- Walang 'coding' use your car all day of the week
- Free parking - this law mandates building owners to provide free parking to eco-friendly cars

tagal na neto. ewan ko kung umuusad sa senate ito. pero malaking bagay yung pag-alis ng duties sa pagbaba ng presyo.
for example, pagpasok pa lang ng Prius, 40% agad ang duty. meron pang 12%VAT at 10% ad valorem tax. hahaha dami talaga.

[Noel Salisipan]

Hangga"t mas malaki ang pakinabang ng gobyerno sa mga higanteng petroleum company malabo na maapruban yan lalo sa mga panahon ngayon.

Pero maganda yung panukala para sa kalikasan!

[niky]

Hangga"t mas malaki ang pakinabang ng gobyerno sa mga higanteng petroleum company malabo na maapruban yan lalo sa mga panahon ngayon.

Pero maganda yung panukala para sa kalikasan!

Why? The Senate has already approved the bill.

And we also have the E-trike project.

It's not the oil companies that are the biggest hurdle to adopting EVs. It's the fact that they're so fricking expensive.

That hasn't changed much, and still won't change much. The cheapest electric-only vehicle that meets crash and highway safety standards on the market is the Nissan Leaf, which costs three times as much as the Versa it's based on.

Add local taxes to the price of the Leaf and it would cost 2.5 million pesos.

A tax exemption brings it down to 1.5 million pesos. I doubt oil companies will be losing sleep over millions of Filipinos paying 1.5m for a car that's smaller than the Almera.

[uls]

Hangga"t mas malaki ang pakinabang ng gobyerno sa mga higanteng petroleum company malabo na maapruban yan lalo sa mga panahon ngayon.

Pero maganda yung panukala para sa kalikasan!

there's no conspiracy

the problem with electric cars are price and limited range

[miked]

at yung hindi agad nakikita rito eh yung environmental impacts ng pagmanufacture at pagrecycle ng hybrid cars....they may or may not be as polluting as combustion engines...

plus kelangan din smooth ang daan dito sa pinas para minimal vibration at tatagal ang batteries.

btw, meself is not a tree-hugger ha. peace

[Noel Salisipan]

Why? The Senate has already approved the bill.

And we also have the E-trike project.

It's not the oil companies that are the biggest hurdle to adopting EVs. It's the fact that they're so fricking expensive.

That hasn't changed much, and still won't change much. The cheapest electric-only vehicle that meets crash and highway safety standards on the market is the Nissan Leaf, which costs three times as much as the Versa it's based on.

Add local taxes to the price of the Leaf and it would cost 2.5 million pesos.

A tax exemption brings it down to 1.5 million pesos. I doubt oil companies will be losing sleep over millions of Filipinos paying 1.5m for a car that's smaller than the Almera.

Hopefully maimplement.

Pero ang prius ng Toyota mahal pa rin, mas tipid pa kung bibili ka ng montero na GLS. Yung savings sa cost magagamit mo for about 5yrs sa fuel kaysa sa mga hybrid.

[DonCamote]

This applies to hybrid also - the Honda CR-Z is now selling at about US$20k outside of the Philippines. Import this with the tax privilege of SB 2856 and we might get a friendlier price. It should benefit the Leaf, MiEV, etc.

[DonCamote]

This bill is now approved on 3rd reading as of yesterday Jan 28.

[James Deakin]

This bill is now approved on 3rd reading as of yesterday Jan 28.

Yes, but sadly, it is being blocked by the dept. of Finance.There is only a very small window for them to go to bicam and have it ratified. If we miss that window in June, then it starts from scratch. But there is still a chance of getting this passed. I have set up an online petition. According to Ralph Recto and Secretary Petilla, if there are enough signatures (at least 10,000) we can definitely get it prioritised. Let's not wait till it's too late. Every signature counts. https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...act-now-sb2856

[ghosthunter]

Yes, but sadly, it is being blocked by the dept. of Finance.There is only a very small window for them to go to bicam and have it ratified. If we miss that window in June, then it starts from scratch. But there is still a chance of getting this passed. I have set up an online petition. According to Ralph Recto and Secretary Petilla, if there are enough signatures (at least 10,000) we can definitely get it prioritised. Let's not wait till it's too late. Every signature counts. https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...act-now-sb2856

Although I do see the benefits of electric and hybrid cars, I do not support it's use on local roads, especially in the form of the e-jeepney. No real immediate to medium term benefits to cleaning up the air in Metro Manila.

I actually prefer to see the national government to require the petroleum companies to shift to EURO-IV in the quality for diesel fuel. This shift would have real dramatic improvement in the air quality given the number of PUB/PUJ on the road as well as all the other commercial trucks.

[DonCamote]

Hey James, thanks for joining and welcome to Tsikot I've read your article in Philstar, which is the catalyst for this thread.

I've just signed the petition at Change.org.

Everybody else, come join. Spread the word in your Social Networks if you care.

[godward]

Although this can be good since it's eco-friendly, I doubt it will bloom anytime soon. Marami pang problema ang currently pending. Hopefully sana tuloy2x na ito.

[niky]

Yes, but sadly, it is being blocked by the dept. of Finance.There is only a very small window for them to go to bicam and have it ratified. If we miss that window in June, then it starts from scratch. But there is still a chance of getting this passed. I have set up an online petition. According to Ralph Recto and Secretary Petilla, if there are enough signatures (at least 10,000) we can definitely get it prioritised. Let's not wait till it's too late. Every signature counts. https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...act-now-sb2856

Welcome to the doghouse, James.

We're behind you, man.

[bananatype]

I think there are downsides to current hybrid technology that might hamper its wide acceptance in PHL:

-Gasoline-electric hybrid cars (e.g. Prius) will still be considerably more expensive than equivalent-sized pure-ICE vehicles
-Owners will be tied to the casa for the vehicle's life because your local talyer won't touch it with a 10-foot dos-por-dos
-A 10-year battery warranty is cold comfort when a replacement costs $4,000 or P160k * current exchange rate
-It occasionally floods here and there, but more frequently now in unexpected places...we all know what happens when you mix water and electricity
-Where to dump an ultra-toxic battery that's leaking heavy metals after 10 years...noone can recycle it here in PHL so you'll end up shipping it back to its maker
-You'll be paying even more for a hybrid soon because rare-earth metals don't grow on trees, and the Chinese are getting greedy

Now if we're talking about pure-electric and plug-in hybrid, then most of the above will apply as well. But with the added downside that most of our local electricity isn't from green sources (ex. wind, hydro, tidal, geothermal, solar)...so you're just transferring your foregone emissions to some dirty smelly coal-burning CO2-emitting NPC plant in the lovely verdant countryside that is far away from you.

But yes, people will see you as very cool eco-hip guy, albeit limited to within 60 kms. of a charging station. Charging station, you say? Aha, another problem! And we haven't even gotten to the issue of range-anxiety yet. It's not looking good for plug-in electric either...

Seems like there is much more promise in the LPG, CNG, and LNG possibilities of SB 2856 since these are widely accepted existing technology. Juan Dela Cruz could still buy a small affordable car...AND enjoy exemption from import duty, excise tax, VAT, and municipal sales tax... AND be exempt from number coding... AND have special parking spaces... AND be doing the environment a favor...all with an LPG vehicle...and very very soon without waiting for a charging infrastructure to be built. Hell, a taxicab mekaniko can keep an LPG car running till it falls to pieces!

Hmm..something to think about. By the way, I do support SB2856 and HB5460. And I don't own an LPG station.

Cheers!

[bananatype]

Sorry OT, but someone mentioned Euro4 implementation. Jan 1, 2016 is the magic date for brand new cars, but Euro4 fuel should be widely available by end of 2014 when Petron completes its local refinery upgrade. Petron supplies base stock to other players...won't be too long now.

By the way, isn't it ironic that people load Euro2 fuel in their eco-hip hybrids?