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Bakit sabi sa kabilang forum eto:

"For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission. "
any comment?

Thanks...

Thats true. Mas mura ang brake pads. Ang point naman ng engine braking is to help your brakes from overworking and also overheating. Brakes will fail or loose its effectivity when the pads and disc/drum gets overheated. Thats is for safety reasons, not money. Mas mahal ang buhay natin kesa transmission di ba?

And besides, hindi naman makakasira ng transmission ang engine braking eh. A/T trannies have its own internal brake to prevent overloading the gears when enginebraking. The tranny brake activates when it is needed via sensors or when you put your gear in "P".

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Thats true. Mas mura ang brake pads. Ang point naman ng engine braking is to help your brakes from overworking and also overheating. Brakes will fail or loose its effectivity when the pads and disc/drum gets overheated. Thats is for safety reasons, not money. Mas mahal ang buhay natin kesa transmission di ba?

And besides, hindi naman makakasira ng transmission ang engine braking eh. A/T trannies have its own internal brake to prevent overloading the gears when enginebraking. The tranny brake activates when it is needed via sensors or when you put your gear in "P".

Ok, good point...

ciao!

[vicoyski]

Bakit sabi sa kabilang forum eto:

"For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission. "
any comment?

Thanks...

I remember that the above comment was not about engine braking. It was made in the context of just stepping on the brakes and leaving the A/T gear in D rather than shifting to N when stopped at an intersection. Constant shifting from D to N and vice versa might cause damage daw to the transmission solenoids, or something...

When going down Baguio, should your brake pads fail (due to over-use going downhill) - you could fall off a cliff... Now, should your transmission fail during engine braking (which is most unlikely) - your gear should lock-up and your vehicle will literally grind to a halt. However, for the latter, you may very well live to have the damage fixed...

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peeps, nagpa-glass etching ako sa big bert's pasig a few weeks back...


applied acid to permanently etch my plate# on the mirror...

the finished product. useless na sa mga sidemirror thieves, he he.

[mbclubph]

san pa po yung isang branch ng Big Bert's? meron ba sa makati or sa fort?

papa glass etch din

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I remember that the above comment was not about engine braking. It was made in the context of just stepping on the brakes and leaving the A/T gear in D rather than shifting to N when stopped at an intersection. Constant shifting from D to N and vice versa might cause damage daw to the transmission solenoids, or something...

When going down Baguio, should your brake pads fail (due to over-use going downhill) - you could fall off a cliff... Now, should your transmission fail during engine braking (which is most unlikely) - your gear should lock-up and your vehicle will literally grind to a halt. However, for the latter, you may very well live to have the damage fixed...

actually, i've got that comment from AI and the question is:

Quote from: on February 21, 2006, 08:32:07 am
"which is better for the enginge and fuel consumption? lately ive been enginge braking instead of normal braking. is this good for the engine? will it damage something? i drive an A/T..
Answer:
For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission."

well for one wala naman syang nabanggit na downhill kaya siguro yun ang sagot nya...

and here is the link:

http://www.autoindustriya.com/yabbse...=21084;start=0

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actually, i've got that comment from AI and the question is:

Quote from: on February 21, 2006, 08:32:07 am
"which is better for the enginge and fuel consumption? lately ive been enginge braking instead of normal braking. is this good for the engine? will it damage something? i drive an A/T..
Answer:
For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission."

well for one wala naman syang nabanggit na downhill kaya siguro yun ang sagot nya...

and here is the link:

http://www.autoindustriya.com/yabbse...=21084;start=0

Thanks for the link. I read it pero parang hindi malinaw ang usapan. Maraming OT. The first question asked was regarding the effects of engine braking on fuel consumption and on engine wear on an A/T tranny.

I think the correct answer for this (my opinion lang po) is that the effects on fuel consumption is minimal and of course putting you gear in "N" and use the car's momentum will use less fuel but as I mentioned earlier, this is not safe whether on flat and specially going downhill. The best thing to do is to keep in gear (D for A/T on flat and downshift going downhill) or down shift for manual and lightly tap on the brakes to slow down or when stopping. This is called engine braking.

This way you are using both your engine and brakes to control your speed and not using either brakes or engine alone. Aside from normal wear and tear, there is no harmful effects on both engine and brakes and is also safe for you, other motorists and pedestrians.

[vicoyski]

actually, i've got that comment from AI and the question is:

Quote from: on February 21, 2006, 08:32:07 am
"which is better for the enginge and fuel consumption? lately ive been enginge braking instead of normal braking. is this good for the engine? will it damage something? i drive an A/T..
Answer:
For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission."

well for one wala naman syang nabanggit na downhill kaya siguro yun ang sagot nya...

and here is the link:

http://www.autoindustriya.com/yabbse...=21084;start=0

Sa AI ba galing ito? I seem to remember a similar discussion in another thread here... Sorry, my bad...

[number001]

san pa po yung isang branch ng Big Bert's? meron ba sa makati or sa fort?

papa glass etch din

Big Bert's Araneta

Unit 1 Robbinsdale Bldg. #14 Araneta Avenue Cor. Palanza St. Quezon City Philippines
Tel No: (632) 415-0979

Check a t h r e a d on this branch


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[bolantoy]

Sa AI ba galing ito? I seem to remember a similar discussion in another thread here... Sorry, my bad...

Tama ka sir vicoyski, hindi galing AI yung post na yon. eto yung link.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...&page=42&pp=20


To D or not to D


This is the most commonly asked question by owners of automatic cars: “Should I put the lever to N, or leave it in D while waiting at traffic light junctions?” The answer is, leave it in D and use the brakes to hold the car at a standstill. All modern automatic gearboxes are designed to cope with this, so there is no unnecessary wear and tear on the mechanical components.

Frequently shifting from D to N and vice versa, however, puts strain on the gearbox and its electronically controlled solenoids. In the long run, this may result in premature failure of some components, and a hefty repair bill. It’s also a common misconception that holding the car with the brakes leads to additional wear and tear on the braking parts. Since the car is stationary, there is no friction between the pads and discs, so there is no extra wear.

Many drivers of manual cars like shifting to neutral and letting the car coast to a halt when the traffic lights ahead are red. Not only is this practice dangerous as all engine braking is lost (making the car less stable if sudden braking is required), fuel consumption also goes up. Modern fuel-injected cars have a fuel cut-off system that operates only when a gear is engaged and the foot is taken off the accelerator pedal. If the car is rolling along in neutral, fuel still needs to be pumped into the engine to keep it idling, so more fuel is actually used.

Hope this helps......