The Ultimate Yaris

[thearsenal1205]

Turbo gas is much better to drive. Even the cars with small displacement turbo gas engines are better in terms of acceleration against the usual crop of PPVs, pickups, and MPVs.

Except the Euro turbo diesels, they are more refined and better in driving feel.

If you want to make the most of NA gas engines, rev them higher.


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agreed. like the GR yaris which has a 1.6L three cylinder turbo that makes nearly a 300hp. not just that even larger turbo gas engines like lancer evo, gtr, supra etc..

[ninjababez]

Turbo gas is much better to drive. Even the cars with small displacement turbo gas engines are better in terms of acceleration against the usual crop of PPVs, pickups, and MPVs.

Except the Euro turbo diesels, they are more refined and better in driving feel.

If you want to make the most of NA gas engines, rev them higher.


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bro baka masagot nyo, bakit mas mataas gain ng HP and torque sa speedlab pag PPV with turbo diesels vs e.g. NA sedans like civic etc

[Egan101]

bro baka masagot nyo, bakit mas mataas gain ng HP and torque sa speedlab pag PPV with turbo diesels vs e.g. NA sedans like civic etc

Because of the turbocharger. If no turbocharger yung Diesel engine, low gains rin yun. Think of a tuned Adventure, hehehe.

Turbo gas engines can have better gains when tuned properly. Yung old Legacy GT 2.5T is rated stock around 270hp/350Nm but if tuned, some can do 400hp/500Nm. Yung WRX STi ng owner ng GAT Performance is tuned to 500hp.


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[ninjababez]

Because of the turbocharger. If no turbocharger yung Diesel engine, low gains rin yun. Think of a tuned Adventure, hehehe.

Turbo gas engines can have better gains when tuned properly. Yung old Legacy GT 2.5T is rated stock around 270hp/350Nm but if tuned, some can do 400hp/500Nm. Yung WRX STi ng owner ng GAT Performance is tuned to 500hp.


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thanks! laki nga talon ng naka turbo

[uls]

diesel engines are very torquey to begin with

halos lahat ng lakas available sa low rpm range unlike gas engines

and diesel engines are stronger/thicker/more robust than gas engines so mas kayang kaya maghandle ng boost

[Egan101]

diesel engines are very torquey to begin with

halos lahat ng lakas available sa low rpm range unlike gas engines

and diesel engines are stronger/thicker/more robust than gas engines so mas kayang kaya maghandle ng boost

Well, some gas turbo engines already have their peak torque available as early as 1500 rpm. These usually apply to Euro cars.

For the usual gas turbo engines, peak torque is around 2000 to 5500 rpm. Turbo diesel couldn’t keep up with such a wider rpm band plus turbo gas gets more power for the same displacement. Most gas engines get peak power at 6k rpm. What more with those gas engines with an 8k redline?

Turbo Diesel engines are more robust thus they are preferred for use in trucks. In terms of performance, it can’t stack up with turbo gas engines. Mayrun bang performance car na diesel? Wala eh.


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[jigeloh]

Well, some gas turbo engines already have their peak torque available as early as 1500 rpm. These usually apply to Euro cars.

For the usual gas turbo engines, peak torque is around 2000 to 5500 rpm. Turbo diesel couldn’t keep up with such a wider rpm band plus turbo gas gets more power for the same displacement. Most gas engines get peak power at 6k rpm. What more with those gas engines with an 8k redline?

Turbo Diesel engines are more robust thus they are preferred for use in trucks. In terms of performance, it can’t stack up with turbo gas engines. Mayrun bang performance car na diesel? Wala eh.


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[uls]

Well, some gas turbo engines already have their peak torque available as early as 1500 rpm. These usually apply to Euro cars.

For the usual gas turbo engines, peak torque is around 2000 to 5500 rpm. Turbo diesel couldn’t keep up with such a wider rpm band plus turbo gas gets more power for the same displacement. Most gas engines get peak power at 6k rpm. What more with those gas engines with an 8k redline?

Turbo Diesel engines are more robust thus they are preferred for use in trucks. In terms of performance, it can’t stack up with turbo gas engines. Mayrun bang performance car na diesel? Wala eh.


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wait lang did i sound pro diesel?

i was only saying mas makapal ang block ng diesel engines coz that's what they're designed for -- to handle a lot of pressure

coz kalabaw mga yan pang hila

kaya pwede mo lagyan ng malaking turbo mga yan dahil makapal mga block, mataba mga piesa

i don't like diesels i only owned 1 (a pajero) and never went back to diesel

dito lang sa Pinas meron romance with diesel

sa ibang bansa pang business lang ang diesel di pang personal use

[jut703]

wait lang did i sound pro diesel?

i was only saying mas makapal ang block ng diesel engines coz that's what they're designed for -- to handle a lot of pressure

coz kalabaw mga yan pang hila

kaya pwede mo lagyan ng malaking turbo mga yan dahil makapal mga block, mataba mga piesa

i don't like diesels i only owned 1 (a pajero) and never went back to diesel

dito lang sa Pinas meron romance with diesel

sa ibang bansa pang business lang ang diesel di pang personal use

If you’ve been to Europe, super obsessed din sila sa diesels dun.

Pinakamabentang BMW is the 320d.

Of course switching na rin to electric/hybrid, but outside of Scandinavia, low adoption pa rin relatively.


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[thearsenal1205]

dito lang sa Pinas meron romance with diesel

sa ibang bansa pang business lang ang diesel di pang personal use

exactly what to blame is yung mga PUVs like UV express, jeepneys, buses lahat powered by diesel kaya mababa ang price sa gasoline.

Pang commercial vehicles lang yung diesel sa ibang countries like for example, North America (U.S., Canada, Mexico) yung mga diesel lang nila is yung mga heavy duty pickups like the Ford super duty F250-750 powerstroke, chevy silverado hd /gmc sierra hd duramax, ram hd cummins. even yung vans nila katulad ng ford transit (same engine ng everest/ranger 2.0 bi turbo) , chevy express (same engine sa colorado/trailblazer 2.8 duramax)

medyo rare sa kanila ang diesel cars and suvs. may pickup na light duty sila na diesel pero di mabenta unlike dito sa pinas and other countries. note that may ford f150 sa states na may diesel pero here ecoboost gas lang ang available. (Maybe not to cannibalize ranger sales?)

[dr. d]

if government wants to clean up the air by reducing diesel use,
all it has to do is to jack up the price of diesel and jack down the price of gasoline.
it's that simple.
who says cleaning up the environment is cheap?

[Egan101]

Mayrun na isa dito. Thank you CNS for the link!

The first Toyota GR Yaris in PH has landed | VISOR PH


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[travajante]

Mayrun na isa dito. Thank you CNS for the link!

The first Toyota GR Yaris in PH has landed | VISOR PH


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Yours, bai?[emoji4]

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[Egan101]

Yours, bai?[emoji4]

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How I wish? But with that kind of money, baka mas malaki pa chance bumili kami ng Explorer kasi yun gusto ni wifey.


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[thearsenal1205]

gray market lang pala yung the first gr yaris dito (by looking there's no conduction sticker on the back.)
i thought TMP already launched it now

[hardwang]

Mayrun na isa dito. Thank you CNS for the link!

The first Toyota GR Yaris in PH has landed | VISOR PH


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Nakakalaway nga!!! Dang! Please lang Toyota, wag kayo mag overprice nito.

[Dr.Kamiya]

What's a not overpriced price for you? Kasi all indicators are this is going to be more expensive than an STi.

UK: STi £29k GR Yaris base £30k competition £33.5k
USA: STi $37k Civic Type R $37k GR Yaris (Motor Trend estimate) $39k-$44k


Based on these and local pricing for the STI and Civic Type R my guesstimate is around P3.5-P3.8M for the GR Yaris.

[Egan101]

What's a not overpriced price for you? Kasi all indicators are this is going to be more expensive than an STi.

UK: STi £29k GR Yaris base £30k competition £33.5k
USA: STi $37k Civic Type R $37k GR Yaris (Motor Trend estimate) $39k-$44k


Based on these and local pricing for the STI and Civic Type R my guesstimate is around P3.5-P3.8M for the GR Yaris.

3.5M to 3.8M would be asking too much. The Civic TypeR is around 3.1M but now offered at a discount price of 2.7M. The WRX STI is only 2.5M.

If Toyota wants a big chunk of the sales of the WRX STi and Civic TypeR, the sweet range would be 2.5M to 2.7M. That would also eat up the sales of the BRZ and 86.


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[ninjababez]

3.5M to 3.8M would be asking too much. The Civic TypeR is around 3.1M but now offered at a discount price of 2.7M. The WRX STI is only 2.5M.

If Toyota wants a big chunk of the sales of the WRX STi and Civic TypeR, the sweet range would be 2.5M to 2.7M. That would also eat up the sales of the BRZ and 86.


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bro wrx sti vs yaris gr, malaki ba lamang ng yaris/sti?
parang mas practical yung wrx eh, and i heard madali i tune

[Egan101]

Kung gusto mo comfortable cruiser na quick and fast, ayos na yung Stinger GT. Puwede pa 3 sa likod, parang Mazda6. We tested the Stinger GT at Clark and it can do 0-100 kmh in just ticks over 4 seconds. That’s about as quick as the Mustang GT.

Sitting on the rear seats of the WRX STi will be uncomfortable for rear passengers. The suspension is just too stiff. I bet the Civic TypeR would be the same.

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