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    #331
    As far as I remember, the number being batted around was 1.8m... 1.5 for tax exemption... but that was three years ago.

    A 30% discount for 2.25m is 1.575m.

    For that much money, you can get a top-of-the-line 2 liter compact, and buy enough gasoline to run it for over 100,000 kilometers. (typically 5 years of use)

    Or... buy a Ford Focus TDCi and have enough gas to run it for over 170,000 kilometers. (typically 8 years of use)

    OR... buy that top-of-the-line compact, buy an LPG kit for 30,000 pesos and buy enough LPG to run it for about 150,000 - 170,000 kilometers.

    OR... buy a Honda City, and buy enough gasoline to run it... forever... (250,000+++ or nearly 500,000 kms on LPG)...

    *(disclaimer... this is all considering mileage is in moderate mixed city/highway traffic... of course, you'll have to consider that every 100,000 kilometers, the Prius will still use about 200,000 pesos worth of gasoline... it's not an electric car, y'know...)

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    Of course, for the government to give a tax break to a CBU vehicle that contributes nothing to local industry and doesn't decrease our dependence on foreign oil significantly (since only relatively wealthy people can afford it) is kind of silly. So add back that 700,000 or so pesos, and you'll have enough money to drive your "gas-guzzling" Civic till it falls apart...
    Last edited by niky; June 11th, 2009 at 03:48 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #332
    somebody going to ford?

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    #333
    Quote Originally Posted by beereo View Post
    if i have 2m right now, i'll just add some more cash and then buy a nissan patrol or a 3-series BMW.

    it's futile if the introductory price is very exorbitant. those who can afford to buy high-end cars can also afford to buy enough gasoline amid the soaring prices of fuel. the Prius would be a good buy if the price will be lowered to 1m so that those belonging to the middle-class segment of our society will be able to acquire one.
    It's not the point. The supposed selling point of the Prius is to save fuel and to save money. But since the car costs so much, it would more economical to buy a regular Corolla.

    Even the rich prefer to save on the cost of fuel, hence some high end luxury sedans have been converted to use Auto-LPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJCarEnthusiast View Post
    somebody going to ford?
    Niky and the guys at bigbigcars.com did a back-to-back comparo with the Focus diesel vs the Prius in terms of fuel costs. They drove both cars in Metro Manila traffic for a day and calculated the fuel burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Niky and the guys at bigbigcars.com did a back-to-back comparo with the Focus diesel vs the Prius in terms of fuel costs. They drove both cars in Metro Manila traffic for a day and calculated the fuel burned.
    Back then, we assumed the cost of the Prius at 1.8. The difference in price back then would buy nearly 500,000 kilometers worth of diesel.

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    The rich would like to save fuel, too... and the Prius is probably a good choice versus a bare-bones 3-series or a Mercedes C-Class... it's not as solid as either car, but the space is all right, it's soft-riding, very quiet and unobjectionable as a commuting car.

    But... the middle class? If you really want to save fuel, you have so many options available... small diesels, minicars... LPG... dealership-installed LPG... motorcycles... the Prius is more a luxury than anything else... the luxury of not having to go to the gas station as often... but for those buying luxury cars, it is hamstrung by the fact that it wears a "Toyota" badge and not a "Lexus" badge.

    Coincidentally... there will be a Lexus version of the Prius. Don't know how much it'll cost when it gets here, though.

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    sana naman (kahit wala) may "utak" at "puso" government natin para suportahan move ng toyota to introduce green cars at bawasan ng napagkalaki ang tax para sa mga hybrids.
    sell it at 700k+ then dadami na makakatulong sa nature natin






    calling sir JJ, kopyahin na natin kaha then ilipat sa usapang replica cars ahahaha joke :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burai View Post
    sana naman (kahit wala) may "utak" at "puso" government natin para suportahan move ng toyota to introduce green cars at bawasan ng napagkalaki ang tax para sa mga hybrids.
    sell it at 700k+ then dadami na makakatulong sa nature natin






    calling sir JJ, kopyahin na natin kaha then ilipat sa usapang replica cars ahahaha joke :lol:
    700k? It wont happen. Promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burai View Post
    sana naman (kahit wala) may "utak" at "puso" government natin para suportahan move ng toyota to introduce green cars at bawasan ng napagkalaki ang tax para sa mga hybrids.
    sell it at 700k+ then dadami na makakatulong sa nature natin






    calling sir JJ, kopyahin na natin kaha then ilipat sa usapang replica cars ahahaha joke :lol:
    fiberglass ftw!! lightweight = light fuel consumption (well if you don't step heavily on the gas)

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    #339
    Burai, actually, whether Prius is environment friendly or not is highly debatable.

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    Well if you look at the BIG PICTURE it might not be as environmentally friendly as the automakers want you to believe. I mean how many CO2 do they release just to build a hybrid vehicle with 2 engines versus a regular single internal combustion engine car?

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