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    #301
    Quote Originally Posted by manunulat View Post
    What I mean is---If price of gasoline goes record high like 4x or more the current gasoline price, there may exist a market for prius.

    However, do you think the government would allow that?
    Even if the price of gasoline would rocket to 4x the current price, it wouldn't make the Prius anymore sellable except to the uninformed what a hybrid can and cannot do.

    If the price of gasoline was to go back to it's previous levels, people would simply choose smaller engined cars like the Honda Jazz/City, Toyota Vios, Kia Picanto, Hyundai i10 and Nissan Sentra 1.3L cars. Others would opt to keep their current cars but switch to a cheaper fuel like Auto-LPG.

    As I have mentioned, unless the local Prius would be selling under P1M, it will simply be a curiosity.

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    #302
    Our trainor just informed us that the hybrid-prius will become available some time June and will cost around 2M pesos!.. Pretty cheap for a hybrid. Stay tune for more updates.

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    #303
    cheap? Hybrid camry's sell for the same price.

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    #304
    Prius is a stupid car. They should just release a common-rail diesel vios and it'll have better fuel economy - and far more environment friendly.

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    the philippines is almost totally dependent on fossil fuels in generating electricity, save for the hydroelectric and geothermal plants. so having a hybrid does not have any effect on the carbon foot print of the vehicle. it will just be relocating the CO2 from the exhaust pipe of the prius to the smoke stack of the power plant.

    now if electricity is produced without burning oil and coal, if it is exclusively hydroelectric, geothermal, wind, wave, solar and even nuclear, then that is a different equation altogether. almost no carbon released into the atmosphere means zero greenhouse gas. (note: except for geothermal since there is always CO2 and SO2 from the wells, but a lot less than a coal/oil plant).

    another reason the prius will not succeed in the philippines is that the philippines has one of the highest electric power costs in the world. in fact there is an impending power rate increase again. what savings can the prius offer if the price of electricity is higher than that of gasoline on a per kilometer basis?
    Last edited by yebo; May 2nd, 2009 at 09:57 PM.

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    #306
    well, hindi naman "plug-in" hybrid yung prius. It should operate independently from the power grid.

    having small displacement diesels are way better than having to "learn" how to eke out the maximum mileage from a hybrid. The bigbigcar comparo between the TDCi and the Prius drove that point home...

    and at 2 million, mga politiko at mga artista lang ang aafford nito.
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    #307
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    the philippines is almost totally dependent on fossil fuels in generating electricity, save for the hydroelectric and geothermal plants. so having a hybrid does not have any effect on the carbon foot print of the vehicle. it will just be relocating the CO2 from the exhaust pipe of the prius to the smoke stack of the power plant.

    now if electricity is produced without burning oil and coal, if it is exclusively hydroelectric, geothermal, wind, wave, solar and even nuclear, then that is a different equation altogether. almost no carbon released into the atmosphere means zero greenhouse gas. (note: except for geothermal since there is always CO2 and SO2 from the wells, but a lot less than a coal/oil plant).

    another reason the prius will not succeed in the philippines is that the philippines has one of the highest electric power costs in the world. in fact there is an impending power rate increase again. what savings can the prius offer if the price of electricity is higher than that of gasoline on a per kilometer basis?
    A lot of wrong info here since you're confusing electric cars with hybrids. Hybrid cars still has an internal combustion engine to serve as both motivation and charging system for the batteries. It also uses regenerative braking to capture the kinetic energy, convert it into electricity for storage. The Prius will work with just gasoline and a good set of battery packs.... no need to connect it to the power utility.

    Here's a nice read: http://john1701a.com/prius/prius-how.htm

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    #308
    many can afford it pero siyempre mga mapepera lang at mga willing magipon for a hybrid. it's just that... yung price, akala ko ba nilalakad ng toyota yan sa government natin para maging mura price ng prius pag nilunch na dito?

    pabor ako magkaroon ng hybrid sa daan para naman makahanap ang mga tao ng alternative way to reduce pollution sa air natin. new technology = new stepping stone. pero sa price mukang its better to go along na lang sa segment A cars like sa i10 at alto. or worse eh go along with the REVAi with a devastating pricetag of 900k pesosesosesoses

    pero still, sana naman yung new gen ilabas wag yung current

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    #309
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    A lot of wrong info here since you're confusing electric cars with hybrids. Hybrid cars still has an internal combustion engine to serve as both motivation and charging system for the batteries. It also uses regenerative braking to capture the kinetic energy, convert it into electricity for storage. The Prius will work with just gasoline and a good set of battery packs.... no need to connect it to the power utility.

    Here's a nice read: http://john1701a.com/prius/prius-how.htm
    i was referring to the prius PHV which toyota said is coming in 2009. my mistake was thinking that the PHV, the one you can plug into the grid, is what they will bring. OLD generation prius pala na hybrid lang.
    Last edited by yebo; May 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glntVR View Post
    cheap? Hybrid camry's sell for the same price.
    Well, last year another trainor of ours who frequently visits TMP plant said that the prius would cost somewhere around 8M and I have also read somewhere in the web that the only time Toyota will bring the Prius here is that when Filipinos get richer. So bringing the SRP down to two million is pretty cheap. Hurray!:trampoline: Filipinos got richer!
    I think that the prius only runs on electricity during low-speed and uses a combustion engine during high-speed that inturn charges the battery, so no need to plug it in. But I agree that they should have just introduce a common-rail diesel car like that of the ford focus. Mas cost-efficient para sa mga pinoy

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