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    #281
    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    dapat may tax incentives ang goverment pag mga hybrid cars
    Even with tax incentives, its doubtful if it's going to be priced lower than a Toyota Camry. And if thats the case, people might as well buy the new Corolla 2.0L instead of the Prius because it would cost less if you add the purchase price and the total cost of fuel over it's lifetime.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; March 7th, 2009 at 09:30 PM.

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    #282
    hmmmm a mazda 3 ripoff?????

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    Hybrids are not bought because of cost considerations. You buy one because you want to save mother earth (or so one thinks).

    Hard-core environmentalists buy bicycles, or take mass transportation.

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    #284
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    If anyone would care to analyze the cost vs savings of owning a Prius against a typical compact sedan, it would be obvious that you would need over EIGHT years or more to simply recoup the purchase price difference in fuel cost savings.

    And owning a DIESEL power compact sedan like the Hyundai i30 turbo-diesel and the Ford Focus TDCi actually makes better sense because the operating cost would be roughly the same as the Prius while much much less than the projected SRP of the Prius in the Philippines. You would also avoid the complex hybrid systems that will require servicing in a few years time which would require the owner to bring it to Toyota CASA for some (expensive) inhouse servicing. There is also the issue of battery life since in hot weather like ours, car batteries might not last as long as in cooler climates.

    In the end, I would think the Prius will only be a curiosity in the local market as well as a plaything and a vehicle for "green-movement" statements for those with the cash to spend on an overprice compact sedan.

    nicely said.

    ang makakatipid lang dito sa prius is yung mga taong may pambili ng prius na di na kailangan mag tipid

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    #285
    Quote Originally Posted by paolorenzo View Post
    Hybrids are not bought because of cost considerations. You buy one because you want to save mother earth (or so one thinks).
    The concept of a hybrid should save you money and fuel.

    Unfortunately the reality of having a hybrid means your vehicle will have TWO propulsion systems under the hood, the petrol/diesel engine and the electric battery/motor. And having two systems on the same car means you will be paying more to purchase it as compared to either a petrol/diesel powered car OR an electric car.

    A better system would be an electric car with a removable on-board electric generator. In regular city driving and general short distance travel that requires extra boot space, the car can be fully powered by the on-board battery and recharged by plugging into an electrical outlet at it's destination or at home.

    For longer drives like out of town trips beyond it's normal battery range, a small compact generator (fueled by gasoline, diesel, lpg, peanut oil, etc) can be slotted into the vehicle to recharge the battery and/or power the electric motor. Such function will be controlled by a computer which decides when to turn on/off the generator. And since the generator has no mechanical link to propelling the vehicle, it can operate at the speed where it is most efficient.

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    #286
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    The result is not surprising. That particular test is not valid. Any vehicle being operated at full throttle throughout will yield worse fuel consumption rates.

    If they ever sell this here, it would probably go from Php 2M to 2.5M.
    Be that as it may. Still, 1.5L I4 vs 4.0 V8 and the V8 with far heavier body consumes less?

    At 2.5M, only a terribly misinformed person would buy this. That's already an Audi A4 TDI ! hehehe

    Cars you can buy for around 2.5 (if you have a wanna go green wisely).

    Audi A4 CVT TDI (crdi)
    Audi A4 1.8 Turbo (petrol)
    BMW 120d (crdi)
    Ford Focus TDCI (2 units!)
    Honda Jazz 1.3 (3 units!)
    Hyundai Accent CRDi (3 units)

    and Hyundai Genesis Coupe GT Turbo (1.4M) & Hyundai i30 CRDI hehehhe. (1.1M)

    hehehehehe

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    #287
    Quote Originally Posted by s_quilicot View Post


    nicely said.

    ang makakatipid lang dito sa prius is yung mga taong may pambili ng prius na di na kailangan mag tipid


    kung mkakabili ka neto sa ganung price malamang dami mo na pera at wala ka na paki kung mahal man ang gas.



    pero siguro kung ang price ng prius sabihin na natin "altis 2.0" mas ok pa siguro. yun nga lang instead na i drop mo yung oto malamang pataasin mo pa lalo ng mga 12 inches para maiwasan ang baha at baka mag short circuit yung oto pag nabaha ka.nyahaha


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    #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Be that as it may. Still, 1.5L I4 vs 4.0 V8 and the V8 with far heavier body consumes less?
    it's logic; flooring the car with smaller engine displacement will result poor fuel consumption. this is necessary only if you are chasing something or being chased by someone.

    for the V8/other bigger engine displacements, why would you push the accelerator hard if it can deliver enough power and torque to speed up at a right amount of press?? also, engine displacements are always computed to provide the desired power and torque to move a certain body given at a certain weight.

    and besides, hindi ka naman siguro bibili ng prius kung gagamitin mo sa karera di ba?? the reason for buying the said hybrid is to lessen the CO2 emission and increase fuel consumption to be used in city driving.

    anyway, for sure mas mahal ang prius sa camry. i checked their prices in the US, and mas mahal nga ang prius.

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    #289
    Quote Originally Posted by agent_ysann View Post
    anyway, for sure mas mahal ang prius sa camry. i checked their prices in the US, and mas mahal nga ang prius.
    And that is the problem with trying to sell the Toyota Prius in the Philippines. People here are more practical in buying a car because chances are, they will be keeping it for 5 to 10 years.

    As earlier mentioned, it would be cheaper in the short and long run to buy a Toyota Corolla even if you include the cost of fuel consumed over it's lifetime.

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    #290
    If gasoline sky rockets again to record high prices, prius may be easily marketed in the Philippines.

    That is, if prius is not really an affordable vehicle like avanza and innova as being presumed.

    But, the government may not allow gasoline to skyrocket just to make prius easily marketable.

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