TOYOTA PRIUS [merged threads]

[Horsepower]

Prius is a stupid car. They should just release a common-rail diesel vios and it'll have better fuel economy - and far more environment friendly.

[yebo]

the philippines is almost totally dependent on fossil fuels in generating electricity, save for the hydroelectric and geothermal plants. so having a hybrid does not have any effect on the carbon foot print of the vehicle. it will just be relocating the CO2 from the exhaust pipe of the prius to the smoke stack of the power plant.

now if electricity is produced without burning oil and coal, if it is exclusively hydroelectric, geothermal, wind, wave, solar and even nuclear, then that is a different equation altogether. almost no carbon released into the atmosphere means zero greenhouse gas. (note: except for geothermal since there is always CO2 and SO2 from the wells, but a lot less than a coal/oil plant).

another reason the prius will not succeed in the philippines is that the philippines has one of the highest electric power costs in the world. in fact there is an impending power rate increase again. what savings can the prius offer if the price of electricity is higher than that of gasoline on a per kilometer basis?

[scharnhorst]

well, hindi naman "plug-in" hybrid yung prius. It should operate independently from the power grid.

having small displacement diesels are way better than having to "learn" how to eke out the maximum mileage from a hybrid. The bigbigcar comparo between the TDCi and the Prius drove that point home...

and at 2 million, mga politiko at mga artista lang ang aafford nito.

[Burai]

many can afford it pero siyempre mga mapepera lang at mga willing magipon for a hybrid. it's just that... yung price, akala ko ba nilalakad ng toyota yan sa government natin para maging mura price ng prius pag nilunch na dito?

pabor ako magkaroon ng hybrid sa daan para naman makahanap ang mga tao ng alternative way to reduce pollution sa air natin. new technology = new stepping stone. pero sa price mukang its better to go along na lang sa segment A cars like sa i10 at alto. or worse eh go along with the REVAi with a devastating pricetag of 900k pesosesosesoses

pero still, sana naman yung new gen ilabas wag yung current

[oj88]

the philippines is almost totally dependent on fossil fuels in generating electricity, save for the hydroelectric and geothermal plants. so having a hybrid does not have any effect on the carbon foot print of the vehicle. it will just be relocating the CO2 from the exhaust pipe of the prius to the smoke stack of the power plant.

now if electricity is produced without burning oil and coal, if it is exclusively hydroelectric, geothermal, wind, wave, solar and even nuclear, then that is a different equation altogether. almost no carbon released into the atmosphere means zero greenhouse gas. (note: except for geothermal since there is always CO2 and SO2 from the wells, but a lot less than a coal/oil plant).

another reason the prius will not succeed in the philippines is that the philippines has one of the highest electric power costs in the world. in fact there is an impending power rate increase again. what savings can the prius offer if the price of electricity is higher than that of gasoline on a per kilometer basis?

A lot of wrong info here since you're confusing electric cars with hybrids. Hybrid cars still has an internal combustion engine to serve as both motivation and charging system for the batteries. It also uses regenerative braking to capture the kinetic energy, convert it into electricity for storage. The Prius will work with just gasoline and a good set of battery packs.... no need to connect it to the power utility.

Here's a nice read: http://john1701a.com/prius/prius-how.htm

[yebo]

A lot of wrong info here since you're confusing electric cars with hybrids. Hybrid cars still has an internal combustion engine to serve as both motivation and charging system for the batteries. It also uses regenerative braking to capture the kinetic energy, convert it into electricity for storage. The Prius will work with just gasoline and a good set of battery packs.... no need to connect it to the power utility.

Here's a nice read: http://john1701a.com/prius/prius-how.htm

i was referring to the prius PHV which toyota said is coming in 2009. my mistake was thinking that the PHV, the one you can plug into the grid, is what they will bring. OLD generation prius pala na hybrid lang.